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Hack a Win Cleaner USB?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi guys! I found this at my local dollar store, a USB drive that comes with the installer for a program called Win Cleaner. I thought maybe I could reformat it as an empty USB drive so I could get a cheap flash drive, but it's seen by my computer as a CD-ROM so I can't format it in Windows Explorer or Disk Management. Does anyone have some advice on how I could format this thing as a normal flash drive? Even if it's just 8 MB, for $1 each that makes for a cheap throw away drive if I want to give a PDF or a few photos to someone, and they have tons of these at the dollar store! 

 

If we can't figure this out, it's just $1 lost, I can accept that. But this could make for some cool projects if we can get this to work!

 

P.S: I already searched Google for this, and found a program called hpflash1 that some Reddit'rs said would work, but it doesn't recognize the drive. (To be more precise, the drive doesn't appear on the list of format-able drives) 

 

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you may be able to format it on linux


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9 minutes ago, manikyath said:

chances are that it's a ROM chip, and not actually flash memory.

 

in that case, you're SOL

That would suck. Can you tell by looking at the chip?

 

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7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

you may be able to format it on linux

Hmm. If I installed linux on a bootable USB then I could maybe format this using a tool built into linus? 

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4 minutes ago, Jason Betts said:

Hmm. If I installed linux on a bootable USB then I could maybe format this using a tool built into linus? 

you can run linux live off a usb stick and then you should be able to reformat it 


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11 minutes ago, Jason Betts said:

That would suck. Can you tell by looking at the chip?

 

 

i would guess thats a ROM chip tbh, i dont see any flash storage on there


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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

i would guess thats a ROM chip tbh, i dont see any flash storage on there

it actually looks like it could be one of the common DIRT cheap rom chips, and offcourse the blob chip on the back for the USB connection.

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That 8-pin chip is a flash memory.  I can't identify the manufacturer of the chip (The logo is some sort of stylized "G" with maybe another letter intertwined?), but the chip is wired just like a 64 Mbit SPI serial NOR flash memory; see attached datasheet.  This type of flash memory is VERY SLOW for the erase/write operations; in the millisecond range.  The controller chip (blob) probably supports erase and write operations, but what are the commands through the USB interface to make that happen?  Even if you knew the commands to send to the blob chip to erase/rewrite the 8-pin flash chip, it would be VERY SLOW!  The controller chip emulates a CDROM drive ( that's what both Windoze 10 and Linux say), so it cannot be formatted as a disk drive.  From the reviews I've read about the WinCleaner software, both this USB drive and the software on it are useless... 

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