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Jagged Shadows,Pop in,Low LOD and jagged aa

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I bought a 900 watt UPS just got done plugging everything in,  turned it on,  logged in and tested a game,  I’m gonna test Rage 2 in a moment and I’ll post my findings.

 

It seems to me that if this UPS doesn’t fix anything then the electrical issues some of us think are the culprit are sincerely wrong!  

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Well, just got done testing Rage 2 on ultra with the 900 watt UPS and it’s still the same.  I have no clue where to go from here.

 

All I can say is that I unlike others don’t have these issues with consoles so hopefully Stadia works well,  If not I’m going to probably become a full-time console gamer ? 

 

I will continue to look into new and interesting ways in fixing these issues no matter how pissed off I get.  I’ve got some ugly footage of SCUM on ultra settings I would like Nvidia to see just for the hell of it.  I’m sure they will say “Everything looks fine”,  but I’ll also link a YouTube video of the game on Ultra where it looks fantastic.  Doubt I’ll get anywhere with this but I’ll try anyway.

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31 minutes ago, Harsh45 said:

Well, just got done testing Rage 2 on ultra with the 900 watt UPS and it’s still the same.  I have no clue where to go from here.

 

All I can say is that I unlike others don’t have these issues with consoles so hopefully Stadia works well,  If not I’m going to probably become a full-time console gamer ? 

 

I will continue to look into new and interesting ways in fixing these issues no matter how pissed off I get.  I’ve got some ugly footage of SCUM on ultra settings I would like Nvidia to see just for the hell of it.  I’m sure they will say “Everything looks fine”,  but I’ll also link a YouTube video of the game on Ultra where it looks fantastic.  Doubt I’ll get anywhere with this but I’ll try anyway.

Well we could allways try to build a faraday cage, i would but i dont have the space to build one, i mean it can only be power or some sort of interferences or something software related maybe.

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I’m not sure what it is but it couldn’t be software related because of all the PCs I’ve built with all differing parts and components,  all just had enough installed to play steam/origin etc..

 

I can’t completely rule out a software issue but 99.9% sure it isn’t.  Especially after using this new laptop,  all that was installed was the new Nvidia drivers and steam/game.

 

Im gonna try a few more things this weekend.

 

This issue seems as if graphical settings are being ignored or somehow utilizing so little that it can only do so much as in low draw distance poor lod, textures, little to no anti aliasing etc.

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3 minutes ago, Harsh45 said:

I’m not sure what it is but it couldn’t be software related because of all the PCs I’ve built with all differing parts and components,  all just had enough installed to play steam/origin etc..

 

I can’t completely rule out a software issue but 99.9% sure it isn’t.  Especially after using this new laptop,  all that was installed was the new Nvidia drivers and steam/game.

 

Im gonna try a few more things this weekend.

 

This issue seems as if graphical settings are being ignored or somehow utilizing so little that it can only do so much as in low draw distance poor lod, textures, little to no anti aliasing etc.

I will continue testing aswell, but what could it be its like this issue defys the laws of physics.

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3 hours ago, Harsh45 said:

Well, just got done testing Rage 2 on ultra with the 900 watt UPS and it’s still the same.  I have no clue where to go from here.

  

All I can say is that I unlike others don’t have these issues with consoles so hopefully Stadia works well,  If not I’m going to probably become a full-time console gamer ? 

 

I will continue to look into new and interesting ways in fixing these issues no matter how pissed off I get.  I’ve got some ugly footage of SCUM on ultra settings I would like Nvidia to see just for the hell of it.  I’m sure they will say “Everything looks fine”,  but I’ll also link a YouTube video of the game on Ultra where it looks fantastic.  Doubt I’ll get anywhere with this but I’ll try anyway.

I tried the same approach with AMD and got nowhere.

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40 minutes ago, DaoNayt said:

I tried the same approach with AMD and got nowhere.

Just had a very nice converstation with reddit guys again i just say "There is no Problem" btw i used your video for showcase purposes hope thats ok.

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4 hours ago, I_dont_know200 said:

Just had a very nice converstation with reddit guys again i just say "There is no Problem" btw i used your video for showcase purposes hope thats ok.

Oh I have a lot more here for download:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bRQBSxvB403sV90YKnKsT6KsVNhsYDuY


Also, a playlist of videos I found with the issue visible:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLymxUFANbMiEGr_tJYxqDwifFTw-4VYO1

 

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9 hours ago, I_dont_know200 said:

I will continue testing aswell, but what could it be its like this issue defys the laws of physics.

This literally defies simple logic,  everything we have tried yet nothing. 

Brand new PCs with all differing components and it still happens.

I went to my shop which is in the next town and also a town on the opposite side and yet I still get the same shitty issues.  How in the hell?

 

I am amazed how fucked up all this is and Nvidia and the rest continue to turn the other cheek!

 

Sad...

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Since AA is usually handled by GPU, if you think logically this problem should be related to GPU or it's driver. But since I have tried so many GPUs and drivers and PCs, I don't know what else to say.

 

The more you think about it the more weird this crap gets... Even my old PC, which haven't been turned on for 3 years and worked wonderfully until then, have this issue now. I turned it on, installed new games to check and vualia... same flickering/shimmering.

 

And of course all this crap started after I installed RTX 2080 Ti to my main PC 8 months ago. Again, the more you think about it, the more weird it gets. Logically, this is GPU issue, because it started after GPU change. But we have to turn off the logic here, because how my other PCs got this I have no idea. How a PC, which was shut off for 3 years got this? How my laptop got this? How other PCs I tested got this? Seriously, WTF?

 

Like I said, I changed every single part in my main PC. I feel stuck. I have no more ideas. The only thing I can do is hope that one day I will find a solution to this "madness".

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6 hours ago, Asasinas said:

Since AA is usually handled by GPU, if you think logically this problem should be related to GPU or it's driver. But since I have tried so many GPUs and drivers and PCs, I don't know what else to say.

 

The more you think about it the more weird this crap gets... Even my old PC, which haven't been turned on for 3 years and worked wonderfully until then, have this issue now. I turned it on, installed new games to check and vualia... same flickering/shimmering.

 

And of course all this crap started after I installed RTX 2080 Ti to my main PC 8 months ago. Again, the more you think about it, the more weird it gets. Logically, this is GPU issue, because it started after GPU change. But we have to turn off the logic here, because how my other PCs got this I have no idea. How a PC, which was shut off for 3 years got this? How my laptop got this? How other PCs I tested got this? Seriously, WTF?

 

Like I said, I changed every single part in my main PC. I feel stuck. I have no more ideas. The only thing I can do is hope that one day I will find a solution to this "madness".

The only other thing that I can think of is to try a pc at someone’s house that has a PC that works fine.

 

Even that is silly...

 

I sent a long drawn out message to Nvidia and hopefully I will be able to talk to somebody about how insane this is.

I’ve talked with them numerous times but haven’t gotten anywhere with any of it.

 

I just don’t understand how new PC after new PC after new PC could have exactly the same shitty ugly results...   

 

One thing I’ve tried a few times was installing Linux but when I have it was a dual boot.  I have never wiped windows off a PC completely and then had Linux installed,  that is something to be tried but not by me,  I’ve had enough from Linux!

 

The thing that really baffles me is how GeForce Now shows the same ugly visuals even though it’s just streaming a game from their servers...  This probably confuses me the most...  It just doesn’t make ANY sense whatsoever...  Complete mindfuck!

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2 hours ago, Harsh45 said:

The only other thing that I can think of is to try a pc at someone’s house that has a PC that works fine.

 

Even that is silly...

 

I sent a long drawn out message to Nvidia and hopefully I will be able to talk to somebody about how insane this is.

I’ve talked with them numerous times but haven’t gotten anywhere with any of it.

 

I just don’t understand how new PC after new PC after new PC could have exactly the same shitty ugly results...   

 

One thing I’ve tried a few times was installing Linux but when I have it was a dual boot.  I have never wiped windows off a PC completely and then had Linux installed,  that is something to be tried but not by me,  I’ve had enough from Linux!

 

The thing that really baffles me is how GeForce Now shows the same ugly visuals even though it’s just streaming a game from their servers...  This probably confuses me the most...  It just doesn’t make ANY sense whatsoever...  Complete mindfuck!

Just an idea but what if the displays are the cause, at this point i think its just weird to think anything is wrong with the hardware though.

btw you can notify Nvidia that not just you got this issue if you didnt allready do that.

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2 hours ago, Harsh45 said:

The only other thing that I can think of is to try a pc at someone’s house that has a PC that works fine.

 

Even that is silly...

 

I sent a long drawn out message to Nvidia and hopefully I will be able to talk to somebody about how insane this is.

I’ve talked with them numerous times but haven’t gotten anywhere with any of it.

 

I just don’t understand how new PC after new PC after new PC could have exactly the same shitty ugly results...   

 

One thing I’ve tried a few times was installing Linux but when I have it was a dual boot.  I have never wiped windows off a PC completely and then had Linux installed,  that is something to be tried but not by me,  I’ve had enough from Linux!

 

The thing that really baffles me is how GeForce Now shows the same ugly visuals even though it’s just streaming a game from their servers...  This probably confuses me the most...  It just doesn’t make ANY sense whatsoever...  Complete mindfuck!

You need to demand to talk to someone important and not just some Tech support employees

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8 hours ago, Harsh45 said:

Well,  I have even worse news now,  My Xbox One X has the issues now.....

Told you man , got this shit everywhere including my phone.

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On 8/19/2019 at 4:59 PM, DaoNayt said:

What the hell is this supposed to be?
(weird 'five' pattern)

 

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I also have this exact "pattern" on trees when I get close to them and they fade out in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey. Also on some distant objects such as rocks when they spawn in and out. Seems like something is not working right when object becomes transparent.

 

Screenshot bellow (press on it to check at full size).

Assassin's Creed® Odyssey2019-8-25-1-40-42.jpg

 

As always, cause and solution is unknown.

 

EDIT: Did a little search about this dot issue on transparent objects and it seems there are other players with this issue:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/523897653302097299/

Doesn't seem to be an RTX issue. At the end of the topic they say this is normal. I say: I don't know.

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Okay guys I have some news,which might be interesting,couple of days ago I downloaded PS2 emulator called PCSX2 and also GameCube Emulator called Dolphin Emulator.After testing multiple games on this emulators I didn't notice single jagged edge,nor flickering textures,nor shimmering.nor pop ins,everything was so beautiful,I just couldn't belive it,I have put all settings at best,without aa,I was so happy,I tested God of War 1 and 2,Call of Duty Finest Hour,Call of Duty Big Red One,Call of Duty 3,Gta San Andreas,Peter's Jackson King Kong and some more,and they were all beautiful,games are running so smooth.so I am now in a big question,why doesn't it show up all problems there if it is same pc,when thinking like this we can rule out electricity,it is more likley to be something software related,some tweak that has to be turned on or of,no matter is your oc old or did you buy a new one,also I have to mention that I have used all avilable render options in both emulators,that includes : Openg,Directd9,Directd12,Vulkan both hardware and software,I don't know guys what do you think ?

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Looks like that with every month passed this AA issue is getting more and more visible. Almost every surface in No Man's Sky massively flickering/shimmering with TAA. FXAA gives similar result, except insead of flickering it becomes super jagged with weird vibration.

 

 

Can someone give me a hug, please? :(

 

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23 hours ago, DaoNayt said:

I also do not notice this in old games. Half Life 2, for example, looks great.

Older games do not have deferred rendering to fudge up things.  Deferred rendering negates almost all real AA, leaving just post process blur filters.

 

The foliage thing is semi-normal.  Most games that use a LOD pop-in reduction technique do not use alpha to do it, they use a stippling filter so that it is a performance neutral effect.  Having things fade in with alpha blending would put more stress on the GPU ROPs, which are almost always the performance limiting factor.

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On 8/24/2019 at 8:19 AM, I_dont_know200 said:

Just an idea but what if the displays are the cause, at this point i think its just weird to think anything is wrong with the hardware though.

btw you can notify Nvidia that not just you got this issue if you didnt allready do that.

I did let Nvidia know about this forum as well as other people’s issues,  I’ve been talking with them and I’m still in talks with them.

 

I don’t think anything is wrong with our hardware or monitors,  but I really don’t think it’s the monitor because monitors display they don’t render..

 

 

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Each monitor contains data about its capabilities. It's called EDID - Extended Display Identification Data. Maybe if this data is misinterpreted for some reason, it can cause problems like these? But again, the problem would be in the GPU, because I tried connecting to my TV, and nothing changed. So that would indicate that the problem is in the computer, not the screen.

We need an expert to tell us how all these different things - GPU BIOS, drivers, windows registry, EDID etc. - interact together to produce the image.

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