Jagged Shadows,Pop in,Low LOD and jagged aa

[Solrig]

Guys can you make a video on friends pc and your pc same settings to show the difference, cause we have not seen any video where is compared graphic on 1 pc and 2 pc with same settings. and it can be really in your head, I was frustrated too, but I tested it on my friends PCs and they have the same "problem" but they not interest about it so much.

[clement1012]

2 minutes ago, Solrig said:

Guys can you make a video on friends pc and your pc same settings to show the difference, cause we have not seen any video where is compared graphic on 1 pc and 2 pc with same settings. and it can be really in your head, I was frustrated too, but I tested it on my friends PCs and they have the same "problem" but they not interest about it so much.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/geforce-900-series/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/87/

 

Watch the first video

[ManniMeister31]

1 hour ago, clement1012 said:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/geforce-900-series/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/87/

 

Watch the first video

Problem there is you only see the "normal" aliasing, for me its like that but with all textures not only the textures which got aliasing anyway. 
But the flickering cant be seen in videos like that, atleast thats my experience. 

Only thing how to show that to my friends was on a lanparty.. so its not that easy to share it with you. You can only believe and try to help solve it or you dont ^^

[Lisonka]

I'll just send my pc to the test stand. Not regular pc specialists, but an hones pc-test-stand, which will show even the slightest problem with my mobo or power supply.
That's about it.
Currently I only have a bit of problem with fonts and (maybe) with movies. Games are alright.

[SpeedUp10]

8 hours ago, MEC-777 said:

 

One major problem; There is no such thing as a north bridge and hasn't been for many generations of motherboards for a long time now. Many of the functions of the north bridge have been integrated into the CPU die. We only have a "south bridge" or PCH on modern motherboards. So this whole theory/process is pretty much useless.

 

Please, everyone, do not start doing this and throwing away perfectly good motherboards. Also, stop wasting your money on replacing some or all of your system components.

 

I still have yet to see any proper/clear evidence that this issue is even a real thing to begin with.  

 

Also, for the last time; it cannot be caused by unclean power by the very fact that the PSU and power delivery circuitry on the motherboard pre-conditions the power to within extremely tight regulation before it reaches any sensitive component(s). If the PSU fails to protect against unclean power, then system components will simply fail and the whole system will shut off/cease to function. It will not cause specific degraded visuals (poor AA etc.) in games and on the desktop. I don't know why so many of you are glazing over this fact.  

I already know this has nothing to with electricy or voltage. I dont know why people still talking about it.

 

But what i know is that this problem is real , whatever u or 100000x other people say. I playing for my entire life and this just happened from one day to the other. Im not fking dumb , i wouldnt waste my time on this if i wouldnt be sure. Also since i was able to fix it 2 times temporarily just confirms it.

Its not my intention to let u belive in this whole thing or whatever i dont fking care . I just want to share informations with people with the same problem. And since i tried a fking tons of shit , and the fact that I FKING FIXED IT 2 TIMES, gives me the power to not give up till i finally fixed it!!!!! The first time it was when i put in my friends amd gpu in (amd card for the first time ever) my game worked perfectly even my friend was next to me, we restarted the game after 10min and it was back, the fking problem was back. The second time i bought a completly new pc , everything worked perfect for the first 2 hours, then i wanted to disable intel speedstep and other power saving settings in bios, after that i got 3 or 4 bluescreens, also my desktop hz just locked from 144 to 60hz aswell for some seconds, then 2 ram slots died. After that i just used my other 2 slots reenabled the settings in bios did a cmos reset and even reinstalled my fking windows and the problem excactly the same problem was just back, i was so fking shocked u dont actually belive. So since this was connected to the mainboard , i rly belive in what Elijah said. Also he confirmed for him self that it worked so whatever u or 20000 people say i will try it since every thing logically did nothing the past 8months like 4 different graphic cards / 3x different cpus / 3x different ram / 3x different boards / 2x different ssds. But i never did what he said in that order. So yeah since a new pc fixed it and it came back after smth happened with the board. This is my next hope.

[ManniMeister31]

27 minutes ago, SpeedUp10 said:

I already know this has nothing to with electricy or voltage. I dont know why people still talking about it.

 

But what i know is that this problem is real , whatever u or 100000x other people say. I playing for my entire life and this just happened from one day to the other. Im not fking dumb , i wouldnt waste my time on this if i wouldnt be sure. Also since i was able to fix it 2 times temporarily just confirms it.

Its not my intention to let u belive in this whole thing or whatever i dont fking care . I just want to share informations with people with the same problem. And since i tried a fking tons of shit , and the fact that I FKING FIXED IT 2 TIMES, gives me the power to not give up till i finally fixed it!!!!! The first time it was when i put in my friends amd gpu in (amd card for the first time ever) my game worked perfectly even my friend was next to me, we restarted the game after 10min and it was back, the fking problem was back. The second time i bought a completly new pc , everything worked perfect for the first 2 hours, then i wanted to disable intel speedstep and other power saving settings in bios, after that i got 3 or 4 bluescreens, also my desktop hz just locked from 144 to 60hz aswell for some seconds, then 2 ram slots died. After that i just used my other 2 slots reenabled the settings in bios did a cmos reset and even reinstalled my fking windows and the problem excactly the same problem was just back, i was so fking shocked u dont actually belive. So since this was connected to the mainboard , i rly belive in what Elijah said. Also he confirmed for him self that it worked so whatever u or 20000 people say i will try it since every thing logically did nothing the past 8months like 4 different graphic cards / 3x different cpus / 3x different ram / 3x different boards / 2x different ssds. But i never did what he said in that order. So yeah since a new pc fixed it and it came back after smth happened with the board. This is my next hope.

I agree with you in most of your points. It happened summer 2015 from one on the other day and in a game which I played for many years, so I can tell the differents..
The question is, when its not electricity, what is it then? For me its 99% about the location, because everybody I know who got that problem, also got it with a complete new PC.

There are no things in common, except for the location. With my new PC it worked not fine but better the first hours before it turned to shit again.. so something seemed to harm it.

The jackpot question is what that can be

 

[SpeedUp10]

12 hours ago, ManniMeister31 said:

I agree with you in most of your points. It happened summer 2015 from one on the other day and in a game which I played for many years, so I can tell the differents..
The question is, when its not electricity, what is it then? For me its 99% about the location, because everybody I know who got that problem, also got it with a complete new PC.

There are no things in common, except for the location. With my new PC it worked not fine but better the first hours before it turned to shit again.. so something seemed to harm it.

The jackpot question is what that can be

 

Its not belive me. I fixed 2 times temporarily and the first time i was with my completly pc st my friends house , so different electricy/internet and it still came back.

[ManniMeister31]

17 minutes ago, SpeedUp10 said:

Its not belive me. I fixed 2 times temporarily and the first time i was with my completly pc st my friends house , so different electricy/internet and it still came back.

When you  fixed it at your friends house, was is with a new pc? Or did you get it to run at your place first?

Because if you didnt, the question is why you got the problem, but your friend not.

Do you think its kind of a virus? 

[SpeedUp10]

2 minutes ago, ManniMeister31 said:

When you  fixed it at your friends house, was is with a new pc? Or did you get it to run at your place first?

Because if you didnt, the question is why you got the problem, but your friend not.

Do you think its kind of a virus? 

It wasnt with my new pc, it was with my old/current. I went to him , put his amd gpu in, fixed everything, restarted game, problem came back. No its not a virus. Atleast not a software virus.

[ManniMeister31]

2 minutes ago, SpeedUp10 said:

It wasnt with my new pc, it was with my old/current. I went to him , put his amd gpu in, fixed everything, restarted game, problem came back. No its not a virus. Atleast not a software virus.

But your friend's GPU works still fine for him?

[SpeedUp10]

4 minutes ago, ManniMeister31 said:

But your friend's GPU works still fine for him?

Yes atleast he saying that there is nothing different. Also what i saw there is nothing different than before. But i just saw one game , he dont have many games.

[ManniMeister31]

Hmm. So we are at this point where its most likely this part of the mainboard which get damaged.

But its fact that it get damaged again and again, I used 4 different mainboards in the last 1 1/2 years. Something that i got only at my place has to damage them.

When its not electricity and not a software virus.. what can it be?

As I said, I got new internet and a new router too, so I dont think its about Wi-Fi noises.  Only thing in that topic what i have to look for, my father bought something like a cloud a while ago, but I dont know when exactly.. Maybe that thing sends the "Wi-Fi noises" which could damage something.. Gonna look for it

[ManniMeister31]

19 hours ago, Lisonka said:

I'll just send my pc to the test stand. Not regular pc specialists, but an hones pc-test-stand, which will show even the slightest problem with my mobo or power supply.
That's about it.
Currently I only have a bit of problem with fonts and (maybe) with movies. Games are alright.

Do you play your games with your onboard gpu now?

[clement1012]

6 minutes ago, ManniMeister31 said:

Hmm. So we are at this point where its most likely this part of the mainboard which get damaged.

But its fact that it get damaged again and again, I used 4 different mainboards in the last 1 1/2 years. Something that i got only at my place has to damage them.

When its not electricity and not a software virus.. what can it be?

As I said, I got new internet and a new router too, so I dont think its about Wi-Fi noises.  Only thing in that topic what i have to look for, my father bought something like a cloud a while ago, but I dont know when exactly.. Maybe that thing sends the "Wi-Fi noises" which could damage something.. Gonna look for it

If it was a motherboard problem, my tv and would not be affected.

 

For me this can only be an electrical problem

[ManniMeister31]

10 minutes ago, clement1012 said:

If it was a motherboard problem, my tv and would not be affected.

 

For me this can only be an electrical problem

Well I think that something harmes the Hardware. At PC it could be the mainboard, maybe at your tv its an other part dunno..

So if you watch TV everyhing is flickering? Because at our TV I dont see much aliasing, only the normal parts although I got the problem with my PC

[MEC-777]

13 hours ago, SpeedUp10 said:

I already know this has nothing to with electricy or voltage. I dont know why people still talking about it.

 

But what i know is that this problem is real , whatever u or 100000x other people say. I playing for my entire life and this just happened from one day to the other. Im not fking dumb , i wouldnt waste my time on this if i wouldnt be sure. Also since i was able to fix it 2 times temporarily just confirms it.

Its not my intention to let u belive in this whole thing or whatever i dont fking care . I just want to share informations with people with the same problem. And since i tried a fking tons of shit , and the fact that I FKING FIXED IT 2 TIMES, gives me the power to not give up till i finally fixed it!!!!! The first time it was when i put in my friends amd gpu in (amd card for the first time ever) my game worked perfectly even my friend was next to me, we restarted the game after 10min and it was back, the fking problem was back. The second time i bought a completly new pc , everything worked perfect for the first 2 hours, then i wanted to disable intel speedstep and other power saving settings in bios, after that i got 3 or 4 bluescreens, also my desktop hz just locked from 144 to 60hz aswell for some seconds, then 2 ram slots died. After that i just used my other 2 slots reenabled the settings in bios did a cmos reset and even reinstalled my fking windows and the problem excactly the same problem was just back, i was so fking shocked u dont actually belive. So since this was connected to the mainboard , i rly belive in what Elijah said. Also he confirmed for him self that it worked so whatever u or 20000 people say i will try it since every thing logically did nothing the past 8months like 4 different graphic cards / 3x different cpus / 3x different ram / 3x different boards / 2x different ssds. But i never did what he said in that order. So yeah since a new pc fixed it and it came back after smth happened with the board. This is my next hope.

I'm not denying this problem exists for you. 

 

In analyzing what the possible causes could be, you have to eliminate the things you know that cannot cause it. One of those things is dirty power. Another is the north-bridge "fix" you posted the other day (since modern motherboards don't have north-bridges anymore). 

 

Retrace your steps and take note of what you know did not affect it. You've tried changing every piece of hardware, several times. In that case, we could safely say it's not hardware related. So changing any piece of hardware again, would be futile. 

 

Now, you said the problem was fixed when you first installed your friend's AMD GPU, but then it came back after 10mins? What changed in that time frame? Anything?

[SpeedUp10]

58 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

I'm not denying this problem exists for you. 

 

In analyzing what the possible causes could be, you have to eliminate the things you know that cannot cause it. One of those things is dirty power. Another is the north-bridge "fix" you posted the other day (since modern motherboards don't have north-bridges anymore). 

 

Retrace your steps and take note of what you know did not affect it. You've tried changing every piece of hardware, several times. In that case, we could safely say it's not hardware related. So changing any piece of hardware again, would be futile. 

 

Now, you said the problem was fixed when you first installed your friend's AMD GPU, but then it came back after 10mins? What changed in that time frame? Anything?

We put his amd card in, deinstalled nvidia driver, installed amd driver, restarted pc, started cs go , boom everything beatiful smooth looking. Restarted game nothing happened just restarted the fking game, and booom insta same problem was back. Literally nothing happened or changed in this seconds. Just a restart of the game .

I think just the fact i never had a amd gpu in my pc did fixed it for the first minutes till it got infected aswell , after that any amd card did no difference.

[ManniMeister31]

7 minutes ago, SpeedUp10 said:

We put his amd card in, deinstalled nvidia driver, installed amd driver, restarted pc, started cs go , boom everything beatiful smooth looking. Restarted game nothing happened just restarted the fking game, and booom insta same problem was back. Literally nothing happened or changed in this seconds. Just a restart of the game .

I think just the fact i never had a amd gpu in my pc did fixed it for the first minutes till it got infected aswell , after that any amd card did no difference.

CS:Go is one of the only games which is playable for me, when I got 4xMSAA on. Still a bit blurry but playable. Really fucked up it is in Games like DayZ, Arma, Rust etc. Cant see further than 100 meters without scope to tell if their is a player for example. Grass, trees and even the ground is flickering and blurry..

 

You put his card in and it worked fine for a few minutes, my new pc also worked nearly fine for the first time I connected it. Then it got worst. 
It is other electricity at your friends house I agree with you, but the mainboard is still the same which got harmed at your home, so I dont think we can preclude electricity because of that test. 

I wont say that it has to be electricity, but i wouldnt preclude it either. Only fact in my opinion is still that it has to be a local thing.

Electricity or something like wifi, bluetooth etc. are the only things i could imagine, if its no virus.

My neighbour, whos room is maybe 10 meters away from mine, dont got any problems, wouldnt he be affected from wifi noises for example too?

[MEC-777]

31 minutes ago, SpeedUp10 said:

We put his amd card in, deinstalled nvidia driver, installed amd driver, restarted pc, started cs go , boom everything beatiful smooth looking. Restarted game nothing happened just restarted the fking game, and booom insta same problem was back. Literally nothing happened or changed in this seconds. Just a restart of the game .

I think just the fact i never had a amd gpu in my pc did fixed it for the first minutes till it got infected aswell , after that any amd card did no difference.

The card cannot be "infected" by anything. It's not possible because the card has no software stored on it that can be changed, aside from the firmware in the vBIOS. But this cannot be over-written unless you use a specific program that has the ability to re-flash the BIOS and go through that whole process, which is quite involving. The Vram is wiped, basically every time power is reset, just like system ram. 

 

Something is happening on a software level. Whether it be in the video drivers or what, I don't know, but that's the only thing it could be. Did you try running DDU then re-installing the drivers after that? 

[SpeedUp10]

3 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

The card cannot be "infected" by anything. It's not possible because the card has no software stored on it that can be changed, aside from the firmware in the vBIOS. But this cannot be over-written unless you use a specific program that has the ability to re-flash the BIOS and go through that whole process, which is quite involving. The Vram is wiped, basically every time power is reset, just like system ram. 

 

Something is happening on a software level. Whether it be in the video drivers or what, I don't know, but that's the only thing it could be. Did you try running DDU then re-installing the drivers after that? 

Ofc i use DDU. I tried everything, new ssd just with 1 game installed nothing else same. 

[ManniMeister31]

4 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

The card cannot be "infected" by anything. It's not possible because the card has no software stored on it that can be changed, aside from the firmware in the vBIOS. But this cannot be over-written unless you use a specific program that has the ability to re-flash the BIOS and go through that whole process, which is quite involving. The Vram is wiped, basically every time power is reset, just like system ram. 

 

Something is happening on a software level. Whether it be in the video drivers or what, I don't know, but that's the only thing it could be. Did you try running DDU then re-installing the drivers after that? 

But when its on a software level, why would it affect a complete new pc? I didnt even connect my normal mouse, headset, keyboard etc there was nothing in common which could affect the software.

[MEC-777]

24 minutes ago, SpeedUp10 said:

Ofc i use DDU. I tried everything, new ssd just with 1 game installed nothing else same. 

Did you try putting your friend's AMD GPU back in his system? If so, what happened? 

21 minutes ago, ManniMeister31 said:

But when its on a software level, why would it affect a complete new pc? I didnt even connect my normal mouse, headset, keyboard etc there was nothing in common which could affect the software.

What OS are you both running? Win 10? Have you tried Win 7 or 8.1?

 

 

[clement1012]

1 minute ago, MEC-777 said:

Did you try putting your friend's AMD GPU back in his system? If so, what happened? 

What OS are you both running? Win 10? Have you tried Win 7 or 8.1?

 

 

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/geforce-900-series/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/99/

 

 

You can see on this topic that everything has been tried without positive result.

[MEC-777]

3 minutes ago, clement1012 said:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/geforce-900-series/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/99/

 

 

You can see on this topic that everything has been tried without positive result.

I've skimmed through a good chunk of that thread some time go. For the sake of saving time, I'm just trying to sum up what you have tried/not tried to rule out some possibilities. 

 

So what you're saying is this issue is present, regardless of OS? Windows (any relevant version) and/or Linux?

[SpeedUp10]

8 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

Did you try putting your friend's AMD GPU back in his system? If so, what happened? 

What OS are you both running? Win 10? Have you tried Win 7 or 8.1?

 

 

Yes we put it back and since he only play 2 games , i can say both his games runs as it run before. Aswell he never ever said anything like my games runs weird or smth. I tried win 10/8.1/7

 

I know u want to help, but i basically tried everything u can imagine.