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KenjiD5

Jagged Shadows,Pop in,Low LOD and jagged aa

wkdpaul

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21 hours ago, Asasinas said:

Just wondering... Since you all have issues with games, how does it impact your gaming life? Did you completely stop to play games? Or maybe you chose console over PC? Or you just play on PC while trying to ignore all the graphical artifacts you see?

IMO if you have case 2 you can't ignore it. On the other hand i don't know much about case 1 as i don't have it. My pc is collecting dust now, i just turn it on to capture some footage of this issue and that's it. I am too afraid to plug my console in this new house as in my case i am 90% sure it's power. So i can't game anymore. 

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9 hours ago, lordante said:

Biggest exemple for me, about a messed game i can't play because of it: dragon age origin. Totaly unplayable.

Weird. I installed DAO just to test, and it looks good for me. 

None of this makes any sense...

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For me the weirdest part of this issue is that I played all games fine, not a single flicker or artifacting/shimmering/blinking/jagginess in any of the games. On Dec. 31 I installed RTX 2080 Ti and then issues starts. What is even more weird, why did all the issues also appeared on other 6 unrelated PCs I tested? My secondary PC and laptop never had any issues or flickering, but after I installed RTX 2080 Ti (ONLY on my main gaming PC), issues started to appear on them too. Does RTX have some kind of bad aura? Because I don't know what else to say, lol.

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Just here to report that I'm also affected. Everything was working fine, until it didn't. Grainy Picture, Shimmering and stuff like that. Anti Aliasing is not working, doesn't matter what I change. Tried different monitors, changed PSU and even brought the PC to a friends house. Nothing worked, still the same crap. Kinda getting frustrated, since I'm seeing posts from over 5 years ago with no solutions. This does not only affect games but Windows itself too. Jaggy edges and stuff, all over chrome and my desktop. Seems like AMD and NVIDIA is not interested in solving this, since it's not GPU related? -_-

 

 

i5 4460 3,2 GHZ

2x4GB Ram

RX 590 Fatboy

1 SSD 1 HDD

 

Oof.

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14 hours ago, Asasinas said:

For me the weirdest part of this issue is that I played all games fine, not a single flicker or artifacting/shimmering/blinking/jagginess in any of the games. On Dec. 31 I installed RTX 2080 Ti and then issues starts. What is even more weird, why did all the issues also appeared on other 6 unrelated PCs I tested? My secondary PC and laptop never had any issues or flickering, but after I installed RTX 2080 Ti (ONLY on my main gaming PC), issues started to appear on them too. Does RTX have some kind of bad aura? Because I don't know what else to say, lol.

Same here,  I came upon this issue one day straight outta the blue and then every other PC I built or had laying around showed the same symptoms from that day forward...  sad, frustrating and mind-boggling... .. .

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9 hours ago, SmoothCrimz said:

Just here to report that I'm also affected. Everything was working fine, until it didn't. Grainy Picture, Shimmering and stuff like that. Anti Aliasing is not working, doesn't matter what I change. Tried different monitors, changed PSU and even brought the PC to a friends house. Nothing worked, still the same crap. Kinda getting frustrated, since I'm seeing posts from over 5 years ago with no solutions. This does not only affect games but Windows itself too. Jaggy edges and stuff, all over chrome and my desktop. Seems like AMD and NVIDIA is not interested in solving this, since it's not GPU related? -_-

 

 

i5 4460 3,2 GHZ

2x4GB Ram

RX 590 Fatboy

1 SSD 1 HDD

 

Oof.

I agree.   I did notice something yesterday,  when updating windows 10 it shows the update percentage on that blue screen where it configures the update and restarts your PC 3 times I believe,  Well,  after the first restart all the text on the screen was perfect, 4K crisp and looked exactly the way it should have all along,  then after the second restart it went back to choppy blurry text and same with the third restart.  The login screen wallpaper is blurry and ugly again.

 

Its odd how for about 10 seconds my screen looked fine and then back to crap.  Whatever is causing that screen change right there is undoubtedly the underlying issue,  I believe.

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12 minutes ago, Harsh45 said:

I agree.   I did notice something yesterday,  when updating windows 10 it shows the update percentage on that blue screen where it configures the update and restarts your PC 3 times I believe,  Well,  after the first restart all the text on the screen was perfect, 4K crisp and looked exactly the way it should have all along,  then after the second restart it went back to choppy blurry text and same with the third restart.  The login screen wallpaper is blurry and ugly again.

 

Its odd how for about 10 seconds my screen looked fine and then back to crap.  Whatever is causing that screen change right there is undoubtedly the underlying issue,  I believe.

I told you about what happened to me after the Windows 10 update.Same scenario!

Some people suggest to install graphic driver through the Windows Update.

 

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This is whole jagged shimering lines and textures are related to  GPU drivers and Windows 10.

I think there is some bug between Windows and GPU drivers something that we all have overseen but what!That is true question now!

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59 minutes ago, Strider890 said:

I told you about what happened to me after the Windows 10 update.Same scenario!

Some people suggest to install graphic driver through the Windows Update.

 

EDIT:

This is whole jagged shimering lines and textures are related to  GPU drivers and Windows 10.

I think there is some bug between Windows and GPU drivers something that we all have overseen but what!That is true question now!

We'll all be laying in a grave, this problem exists for over 5 years now x) No hope left in me

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You know what we were unable to solve this issue for so long because we had many software experts here but very less(maybe none) power quality or hardware expert here. You can't fix something with software if the culprit is hardware or the power that it runs on. You can tweak it with software that's what people were doing with taa, super sampling etc. 

 

Irony is that none of these mega companies are interested. They should send a team to our house if not all of our's then one of our house, which should include Software,Electronics and Electrical Engineers/Experts.

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8 hours ago, Harsh45 said:

I agree.   I did notice something yesterday,  when updating windows 10 it shows the update percentage on that blue screen where it configures the update and restarts your PC 3 times I believe,  Well,  after the first restart all the text on the screen was perfect, 4K crisp and looked exactly the way it should have all along,  then after the second restart it went back to choppy blurry text and same with the third restart.  The login screen wallpaper is blurry and ugly again.

 

Its odd how for about 10 seconds my screen looked fine and then back to crap.  Whatever is causing that screen change right there is undoubtedly the underlying issue,  I believe.

Can you revert that update? It is possible that the update pushed the gpu to it's limit while installing something or after that update gpu is supposed to be more optimised but in our case utilising more gpu might be damaging it as it pull's more power. I know this sound odd but we are dealing with something that is odd.  

 

My Assumption: About linux some might see a little improvement as in Linux it's possible that gpu drivers are not optimised as much as they are in windows. So in Linux it might not be utilising gpu to full extent. That could also be a reason why some people saw little improvement installing Linux 

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No, it can't be just Windows 10. I tried on PC with Windows 7, but there was no difference, all problems persisted.

 

Maybe it has something to do with Windows synchronization? You know, when it synchronize settings between PCs, perhaps it breaks something? But, I don't use Microsoft account, so I don't know.

 

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8 hours ago, Meeseeks said:

Can you revert that update? It is possible that the update pushed the gpu to it's limit while installing something or after that update gpu is supposed to be more optimised but in our case utilising more gpu might be damaging it as it pull's more power. I know this sound odd but we are dealing with something that is odd.  

 

My Assumption: About linux some might see a little improvement as in Linux it's possible that gpu drivers are not optimised as much as they are in windows. So in Linux it might not be utilising gpu to full extent. That could also be a reason why some people saw little improvement installing Linux 

You can revert windows update i think.There is on internet how to revert.

About Linux and Windows i think same thing.

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10 hours ago, Asasinas said:

No, it can't be just Windows 10. I tried on PC with Windows 7, but there was no difference, all problems persisted.

 

Maybe it has something to do with Windows synchronization? You know, when it synchronize settings between PCs, perhaps it breaks something? But, I don't use Microsoft account, so I don't know.

 

Windows 7 is very much like windows 10 now.


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8 minutes ago, Bearhugger said:

I could write to both biggest german PC gaming magazines

"PC Games" and "Gamestar" and provide a link to this thread...

 

Whaddya think?

Only works if the story can be made into clickbait.

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On 4/13/2019 at 4:18 AM, Bearhugger said:

Right now, I don't suffer from this problem, but I did before (as described).

When I suffer from it most games are so ugly I don't bother playing them anymore (even 2D games look bad too)...

That's very interesting as these can be the possibilities(these are just few as there can be many possibilities)

 

1. Something bad coming from power company's side during the time you experience this OR there is always something bad in power but the components are starting to show symptoms now.

 

2. If you have a transformer that's shared between all neighbours, maybe one (or all) of the neighbour runs something that causes something bad to appear in power for rest of the neighbours.

 

3.  Maybe something bad in wiring and if the wires are touching something outside through wind or something else, this issue appears.

 

4.  This reminds me, as some people said that they replaced components in pc and problem disappeared, maybe the power got fixed after damaging the component. Also some people said problem reappeared after some time. Very likely that whatever bad in power, is appearing and disappearing for some people and for others it's always there.
 

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On 4/11/2019 at 9:53 AM, KarathKasun said:

It could be invalid output of the shader compiler for some reason, or maybe a timing problem.  I know that some motherboards implement HPET/system timer in non-standard ways, perhaps this is part of it?  Maybe it is a result of variation in timing from oscillators on GPU/MB caused by EMI.

There is this topic on harmonics that shows how harmonics can affect the oscillator (mentioned in "clean power is required for today's equipment"). 

 

https://www.mikeholt.com/technical-power-quality-harmonics.php

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12 hours ago, Bearhugger said:

I could write to both biggest german PC gaming magazines

"PC Games" and "Gamestar" and provide a link to this thread...

 

Whaddya think?

Know both, don't think they'll cover this problem.

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On 4/14/2019 at 4:38 AM, SmoothCrimz said:

Just here to report that I'm also affected. Everything was working fine, until it didn't. Grainy Picture, Shimmering and stuff like that. Anti Aliasing is not working, doesn't matter what I change. Tried different monitors, changed PSU and even brought the PC to a friends house. Nothing worked, still the same crap. Kinda getting frustrated, since I'm seeing posts from over 5 years ago with no solutions. This does not only affect games but Windows itself too. Jaggy edges and stuff, all over chrome and my desktop. Seems like AMD and NVIDIA is not interested in solving this, since it's not GPU related? -_-

 

 

i5 4460 3,2 GHZ

2x4GB Ram

RX 590 Fatboy

1 SSD 1 HDD

 

Oof.

First of all: BIG OOOOOOF

Welcome to the club.

Changing systems/ parts isnt helping at all, so if you have the issue, you´re pretty much doomed.

 

What kind of routers do y´all have btw?

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I am fed up with this. This shouldn't be my job to figure out why it happens. I paid money to use my graphics card for entertainment and hobby, not to f**k around with it for two weeks trying to diagnose problems.

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3 minutes ago, DaoNayt said:

I am fed up with this. This shouldn't be my job to figure out why it happens. I paid money to use my graphics card for entertainment and hobby, not to f**k around with it for two weeks trying to diagnose problems.

Pretty depressing, bought my card a month ago. What drives me mad is that NOBODY knows what the problem is, you usually got an answer after digging a bit, but not this time. Fucking hell.

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11 hours ago, Meeseeks said:

There is this topic on harmonics that shows how harmonics can affect the oscillator (mentioned in "clean power is required for today's equipment"). 

 

https://www.mikeholt.com/technical-power-quality-harmonics.php

These symptoms resemble a kind of oscillation when you look them better.

I sent my bucket of metal (my PC) to the PC store and they will forward my bucket of metal to their service tomorrow. This store is very widespread in my country and has several services.

I asked them to test components in my PC separately.

I hope they will determine what it is problem, and if is the software problem maybe there will be somebody smart to fix it.

 

If they don't solve this whole mumbo jumbo then I will become a console peasant which means I will not be a PC master race anymore. 😭😭😭

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