Would a constant 60 to 63 C hurt my CPU?

[DeathStalkerGR]

Hello guys and gals. I've wrote in this forum countless times trying to get help from small things here and there . (From case fans to air cooling, temps etc.) My question is simple. Would a constant 60-63 degrees C harm my CPU on the long run? Say 3-4 months. I don't do heavy stuff like video rendering, I just play games. My specs.

Case : Aerocool QS180 
PSU:  Corsair CX430
MOBO: MSI 760GM
GPU: R7 260 OC
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE

My fan config is a shitty exhaust fan (prolly 80mm) from aerocool that came with the case and I've placed one coolermaster cheap 80mm fan as intake in the front with zip ties (as it's purpose is for 120mm) and I'm rocking an aftermarket cooler , Arctic Cooling Freezer A11.  I've contacted their customer support and they said that it's totally fine the 60 ~ C with this setup. BUT! Will my PC and especially my CPU last with these temps until I buy a new case and fans? Thanks...

[RS2007GOD]

well not really. 62 degrees is general the max you want to go full stop on phenom x4s. Some people say 65/70 but 62 is reccomended max. My 940 at 3.9 barly huts 60 under full load but i do have decent cooling. Id say do what you can to drop it slightly under 60 would be good.

[Samppa221]

60c is low.

[RS2007GOD]

1 minute ago, Samppa221 said:

60c is low.

Not for a phenom.

[manikyath]

my centrino duo that lived at 95c for 6 years is still happy, so i doubt it'll be much of an issue.

(fyi, that's TJmax, for 6 years.)

[RS2007GOD]

4 minutes ago, manikyath said:

my centrino duo that lived at 95c for 6 years is still happy, so i doubt it'll be much of an issue.

(fyi, that's TJmax, for 6 years.)

Soon as mine get anywhere near 70 its bsod. Phenom IIs can be real cunts

[manikyath]

Just now, RS2007GOD said:

Soon as mine get anywhere near 70 its bsod. Phenom IIs can be real cunts

this thing was 1°c away from bsod constantly, and it happened quite a lot trough the years.

 

it's not the distance from tjmax that matters, it's that you keep under it

[RS2007GOD]

3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

this thing was 1°c away from bsod constantly, and it happened quite a lot trough the years.

 

it's not the distance from tjmax that matters, it's that you keep under it

Lol 

[DeathStalkerGR]

Well some of you say that 60~ isn't *all* that bad but some of you say that like 70 it will BSOD. I will surely buy a new *quality* pc case and 3-4 120mm quality fans and I think I'll be set. Thanks guys. For any new info on these kind of CPU's and personal experiences you had, will be much appreciated.

[LogicalDrm]

From your usage I doubt it will be at 60-65C all of the time? Or is that idle temps? If you have normal use with 65C max, you will be fine for 7+ years. If its 65C 24/7, you will lose few years from lifetime, so maybe 5 years at least and all after that are gained.

[DeathStalkerGR]

4 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

From your usage I doubt it will be at 60-65C all of the time? Or is that idle temps? If you have normal use with 65C max, you will be fine for 7+ years. If its 65C 24/7, you will lose few years from lifetime, so maybe 5 years at least and all after that are gained.

I have 60 two 65 (MAX) under heavy load. When I'm gaming . on idle is 39-41 and on normal load I'm close to 54 C.   What would *you* do if you were in the same situation? Switch to the noisy but little better cooler or with the Arctic Cooling Freezer A11?  (STOCK AMD CPU = Full Load 58 C  but noisy as hell. Arctic Cooling = Full Load 60-65 C) ??

[LogicalDrm]

2 minutes ago, DeathStalkerGR said:

I have 60 two 65 (MAX) under heavy load. When I'm gaming . on idle is 39-41 and on normal load I'm close to 54 C.   What would *you* do if you were in the same situation? Switch to the noisy but little better cooler or with the Arctic Cooling Freezer A11?  (STOCK AMD CPU = Full Load 58 C  but noisy as hell. Arctic Cooling = Full Load 60-65 C) ??

I'd stay with that. Like said, you'd need to be running 65C 24/7 for years to something happen. For normal use and just few hours of high temps are fine for 7+ years.

 

My old CPU had max of 77C. It came to me used back in 2011. Its still in use.

[DeathStalkerGR]

 

15 minutes ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

I'd stay with that. Like said, you'd need to be running 65C 24/7 for years to something happen. For normal use and just few hours of high temps are fine for 7+ years.

 

My old CPU had max of 77C. It came to me used back in 2011. Its still in use.

Damn... Thanks for the useful info. Thing is that this particular cooler (Arctic Cooling Freezer A11) doesn't make full contact with the CPU , and it leaves out some space. I applied some Arctic MX-4 using the spread method and so far I'm seeing nicer temps. Like -3 C at idle... I'll report any good results.

[DeathStalkerGR]

So ... After re-applying MX-4 thermal paste with the credit card spreading method I'm gaining phenomenal temps, especially if I compare to the previous ones. Sadly I don't have pics for previous temps. Now the full chip has spread paste and I have amazing temps. Thanks for all your help guys you've been invaluable to me.  This topic is at last , closed. 

[rjfaber91]

On ‎29‎-‎7‎-‎2016 at 10:18 AM, DeathStalkerGR said:

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BUT! Will my PC and especially my CPU last with these temps until I buy a new case and fans? Thanks...

 

The official max temperature for Phenom IIs is 65°, so you're getting very close to that. In principle it's impossible to instantly kill modern CPUs by getting them too hot as they'll throttle and shut down automatically, but increased temps will cause added wear, of course. I don't know how much longer you wish to use this CPU for, but if you don't intend to replace it then it might be beneficial to treat it with a bit more care temperature-wise.

 

If I might just ask though, where does this temperature reading come from? Is it the temp sensors in the CPU itself, or the one on the motherboard? AMD is notorious for poorly calibrating their temperature sensors, and Phenom IIs seem particularly affected. My Phenom II X6 1055T for instance is consistently underreporting temps by about 10°. If you notice a large discrepancy between the CPUTIN sensor on your motherboard and the core temperature sensors on your Phenom II, you might suffer from a badly calibrated sensor too, and it might be under- or overreporting temperatures.

 

On a final note, if you really are worried, you could always try undervolting your CPU. I managed to take 0.15V off of my Phenom II while retaining stability, and it has had an effect on temperatures.

 

EDIT: Never mind, you seem to have solved it.