Nvidia Titan XP has same FP64 and FP16 performance as GTX 1080

[SteveGrabowski0]

3 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

Titan Z was a horrible overheating abomination which cost 3000$ for 2x1000$ Titans. Tinta ZP would have to be 3500$ for a hot mess...

It was even worse: two underclocked $1000 Titans for $3000.

[Dresta]

3 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

Titan Z was a horrible overheating abomination which cost 3000$ for 2x1000$ Titans. Tinta ZP would have to be 3500$ for a hot mess...

Nah knowing Nvidia they will charge $4000 just because they can

[AlTech]

14 minutes ago, DXMember said:

how do you even manage to do that while adding SMs?

Because the SMs add FP32 performance and not FP64 or FP16  performance.

 

Unless you specifically make it that way. FP64 is always a fraction of FP32 performance.

 

With Pascal GP102, GP104 and GP106 the fraction is 1/32. So it is FP64 performance is 32x slower than FP32 performance.

[LordLeewee]

So this is the high end gaming card, could mean no 1080ti?

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, LordLeewee said:

So this is the high end gaming card, could mean no 1080ti?

Nope. Nvidia officially responded to Anandtech and said that this GPU is not for gaming.

 

This means that there is a high chance of a 1080Ti

[LordLeewee]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope. Nvidia officially responded to Anandtech and said that this GPU is not for gaming.

 

This means that there is a high chance of a 1080Ti

Ah right. Still got my fingers crossed I'll pick up a cheap(er) 1080 for sli when a ti hits

[Coaxialgamer]

3 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

the original one was a pretty good deal for "cheap" compute performance but thats the only card that has made any real sense ever... 

Titan black was also a good compute card

[Liltrekkie]

They keep edging closer and closer to becoming a furnace like the R9 290 cards. Only 40 more watts to go. 

 

Poor nvidia. Haven't they learned that making a bigger chip and shoving more power through it doesnt make it better? Learn from AMD. Learn from them

[Inkz]

They really should have found a way to make ti 3840 CUDA cores to complete the lineup of 2560 and 1920.

[79wjd]

26 minutes ago, Liltrekkie said:

They keep edging closer and closer to becoming a furnace like the R9 290 cards. Only 40 more watts to go. 

 

Poor nvidia. Haven't they learned that making a bigger chip and shoving more power through it doesnt make it better? Learn from AMD. Learn from them

Except that making a bigger chip is literally how ALL chip manufacturers make higher tier products within a generation. 

 

And yeah, it's 40w (also tdp != power consumption) shy of the 290 for almost triple the performance. Bad nvidia! Bad! 

[RagnarokDel]

2 hours ago, ChineseChef said:

There is no Tesla in that list, which was his claim.  But at the same time, I have heard that Tesla cards actually perform rather poorly in folding workloads.  Just not their designed purpose.

Those were only consumer chips. Tesla chips are literally 30 times more expensive than the rx 480 and 6 times more expensive then a Titan X. (not P)

[iwasaperson]

Come on, Vega.

[Liltrekkie]

41 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Except that making a bigger chip is literally how ALL chip manufacturers make higher tier products within a generation. 

 

And yeah, it's 40w (also tdp != power consumption) shy of the 290 for almost triple the performance. Bad nvidia! Bad! 

I really don't think you get it. The TDP of the 290x is 290 watts. The TDP of the new titan is 250 watts. Being a power hog has nothing to do with it. 

 

Everyone makes fun of AMD for the 290 being a hot card. The new titan is going to be a hot card. The performance doesnt mean anything. A hot card is a hot card and they are just shy of getting near AMD's heater. 

 

So don't go spouting off about performance and power consumption when that's not even what I was talking about. 

[79wjd]

14 minutes ago, Liltrekkie said:

I really don't think you get it. The TDP of the 290x is 290 watts. The TDP of the new titan is 250 watts. Being a power hog has nothing to do with it. 

 

Everyone makes fun of AMD for the 290 being a hot card. The new titan is going to be a hot card. The performance doesnt mean anything. A hot card is a hot card and they are just shy of getting near AMD's heater. 

 

So don't go spouting off about performance and power consumption when that's not even what I was talking about. 

People complain about the 290 being a hot card because compared to the 780, it was. There have been hot cards throughout the history of modern GPUs. The GTX480 is the literal embodiment of that. 

 

The Maxwell Titan X was also a hot card that thermal throttled, as did the Titan Z. It's not like the 290 is the only card that people ever mocked for it's heat output.

 

You're right, you were talking about literal nonsense that's not even remotely relevant to anything. Congratulations. 

[Liltrekkie]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

People complain about the 290 being a hot card because compared to the 780, it was. There have been hot cards throughout the history of modern GPUs. The GTX480 is the literal embodiment of that. 

 

The Maxwell Titan X was also a hot card that thermal throttled, as did the Titan Z. It's not like the 290 is the only card that people ever mocked for it's heat output.

The running joke is the 290 since its a recent card though, which was more my point. We all know NVIDIA doesnt want to get all fermi again.,

[ace_cheaply]

6 hours ago, Phoenix721 said:

Really hope AMD's fury 2 (or whatever it's called) kills this SOB.

I've been calling it the 2 fast 2 furious

[zMeul]

3 hours ago, Deletist_Jerk said:

Nvidia dropped the "Geforce" and "GTX" branding from 2016 Titan X...so I'm scratching my head on this one.

 

I'm wondering what the LED lit logo is going to be. 

the new Titan is listed under the GTX10xx series

and the product page has references to gaming: http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/10series/titan-x/

[Sundin]

Reality is that Nvidia has no competition right now in the high-end market and who suffers with that is the consumer...

Same goes for Intel. I hope AMD have an answer for that, so we dont have to deal with 1200 dollars GPUs and 1600 dollars CPus...

[Energycore]

Please fix the formatting for night theme

 

On topic: Holy monopolies batman!

[IGJoe2192]

And to think, everyone came down on AMD for starting in the middle....

[Serin]

8 hours ago, Sauron said:

There's more to quadros than vram. The titan x has no ecc and no extra fp performance. Single precision is also not that useful in rendering.

What render engine are you using that needs DP for more than pretty much just hair?
 

[Tech Inquisition]

10 hours ago, marldorthegreat said:

What I think:

They have just made a gaming focused GPU, and charged $1200. So the nvidia fanboys cannot defend this card. It is an overpriced gaming card. For double the cost of the gtx 1080, you get ~%30 more performance. 

Almost like the Radeon Pro Duo? I cannot see the gaming value it that at all...

 

10 hours ago, GarnetDevil said:

Has the GTX Titan lineup ever been relevant?

Not really, just massive e-peen...

 

For those still wondering if the Titan XP is a Geforce unit... Nvidia lists it under the Geforce GTX line

http://www.geforce.com/hardware

[Marinatall_Ironside]

1 hour ago, Serin said:

What render engine are you using that needs DP for more than pretty much just hair?
 

Yeah I wanna know too. I have no clue if Nvidia Iray can remotely take advantage of FP64 for rendering not just physics, but also global illumination and raytracing.

 

If that's the case, then I'll look to see if I can snag a used GeForce GTX Titan Black.

[Serin]

22 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

Yeah I wanna know too. I have no clue if Nvidia Iray can remotely take advantage of FP64 for rendering not just physics, but also global illumination and raytracing.

 

If that's the case, then I'll look to see if I can snag a used GeForce GTX Titan Black.

Yeah its something I did a fair bit of research into before grabbing my titan x last year - most of the modern render engines like cycles, octane, vray and mentalray don't require any DP(aside from Octane for hair calculations, though not 100% sure).
The general consensus I've found is that geforce cards outperform quadro's in these engines quite effectively. Not only in actual render times but obviously in price to performance.
 

[Deletist_Jerk]

4 hours ago, zMeul said:

the new Titan is listed under the GTX10xx series

and the product page has references to gaming: http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/10series/titan-x/

Yes, that's exactly why people like me don't understand they removed "Geforce GTX" prefix.