Build for light Gaming/Video editing under 400USD (No case needed)

[Stoinberg]

So, my sister wants a pc! She's ready to join the pcmasterrace 

 

The things that my sister wants to do is some light gaming eg. 2D games and minecraft, but also occasionally stream and post videos for youtube. She also would prefer a mini-itx build.

We already found the case so there is no need to include it in the 400 dollars ahaha. 

 

I figured that for games like minecraft you don't really need a gpu but can use the onboard graphics. 

Here's my question, I'm torn between choosing:

 

a FX-8350 because of its higher number of cores, and probably better video editing

or an i5-6400 because of its newer architecture and shit

 

If I get AMD i will need to spend on a custom cooler and most likely on a discrete graphics card (But moar cores!!);

If I get a non k i5 I won't need to buy a cooler and HD 530 graphics seem good (but less cores!)

 

What do you suggest, pcpartpicker builds are welcome 

 

 

[don_svetlio]

400$ build with either of those is impossible. At best you can get an FX6350 or A10 7890K (both with wraith coolers).

[Electronics Wizardy]

Your not getting a 8350 in itx.

 

If you screen recording use quicksync to use the gpu instead of cpu for encoding. You don't need a i7 for editing.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Your not getting a 8350 in itx.

 

If you screen recording use quicksync to use the gpu instead of cpu for encoding. You don't need a i7 for editing.

He won't be getting a GPU thus using quicksync with HD 530 will be a pain in the arse

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

He won't be getting a GPU thus using quicksync with HD 530 will be a pain in the arse

How? you can use quicksync when the igpu is your main gpu. It won't hurt performance.

[Electronics Wizardy]

here you go. You could replace the gpu with a faster cpu(i5 6400)

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fdwYHN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fdwYHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI H110I Pro Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $414.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-26 10:54 EDT-0400

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

How? you can use quicksync when the igpu is your main gpu. It won't hurt performance.

It will - Intel HD and the CPU are both interlocked via TDP - so when the CPU experiences more load the GPU performance drops significantly.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

It will - Intel HD and the CPU are both interlocked via TDP - so when the CPU experiences more load the GPU performance drops significantly.

These are low end parts. They won't even hit there tdp.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

These are low end parts. They won't even hit there tdp.

They do. My i5 4590 does, so does the i5 6400. It's impossible for the CPU to be used at more than 50% without having the iGPU clocks drop in half.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

They do. My i5 4590 does, so does the i5 6400. It's impossible for the CPU to be used at more than 50% without having the iGPU clocks drop in half.

Look at my build. 6100+750. Better than i5 is most uses. Use nvec for recording. Most video editors like gpu more than a bit more cpu.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Look at my build. 6100+750. Better than i5 is most uses. Use nvec for recording. Most video editors like gpu more than a bit more cpu.

FX 6350 + 750 Ti is best. Has the Wraith Cooler bundled (free 212 EVO), MUCH better at video editing/streaming and the 750 Ti is a decent entry-level GPU

[Stoinberg]

Thank you for your answers

 

Would something like this be good as well? 

 

Maybe buy a GPU later?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7890K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($148.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($9.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($33.39 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $378.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-26 10:59 EDT-0400

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

FX 6350 + 750 Ti is best. Has the Wraith Cooler bundled (free 212 EVO), MUCH better at video editing/streaming and the 750 Ti is a decent entry-level GPU

He wants itx. No good itx boards 

 

1 minute ago, Stoinberg said:

Thank you for your answers

 

Would something like this be good as well? 

 

Maybe buy a GPU later?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7890K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($148.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($9.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($33.39 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $378.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-26 10:59 EDT-0400

Look at my build, much faster for about the same price. i3 6100+ gtx 750 would be much faster than a apu.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

He wants itx. No good itx boards 

 

Look at my build, much faster for about the same price. i3 6100+ gtx 750 would be much faster than a apu.

Also overbudget.

 

2 minutes ago, Stoinberg said:

Thank you for your answers

 

Would something like this be good as well? 

 

Maybe buy a GPU later?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7890K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($148.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($9.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XN-WIFI Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($33.39 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $378.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-26 10:59 EDT-0400

Yes, that should work fine. Maybe get 1866MHz RAM for the iGPU - it will increase performance by 15-20%

[don_svetlio]

@Stoinberg don't get the T4 cooler - the 7890K comes with a better cooler, use that one. It's called  the Wraith Cooler

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Also overbudget.

You can get 8gb of ram and replace the ssd.

[Stoinberg]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

@Stoinberg don't get the T4 cooler - the 7890K comes with a better cooler, use that one. It's called  the Wraith Cooler

Alright 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

You can get 8gb of ram and replace the ssd.

i3s aren't exactly good for streaming - actually, they're flat out bad for it. Having only 2 cores for MC workloads is not great.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Stoinberg said:

Alright 

Spend the saved cash on an SSD or faster RAM for the iGPU

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

i3s aren't exactly good for streaming - actually, they're flat out bad for it. Having only 2 cores for MC workloads is not great.

Your not using the cpu for streaming, your using the gpu. Also the i3 is faster in multithreaded tasks. Look here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1645?vs=1497

[zehao39]

400usd will be much easy for used part. I build a PC with i52400 and gtx770 few month ago for 450 dollar.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Your not using the cpu for streaming, your using the gpu. Also the i3 is faster in multithreaded tasks. Look here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1645?vs=1497

It's still not great for streaming.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

It's still not great for streaming.

better than the apu

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

better than the apu

Not really. Better have 4 cores at 75% load than 2 cores pegged at 100% load

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

Not really. Better have 4 cores at 75% load than 2 cores pegged at 100% load

But the total speed of those cores is higher. Look here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1645?vs=1497

 

ALso you aren't using your cpu for encoding, your using nvec on the gpu.