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R9 390X or GTX 1060?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Ok so where i live(Poland) i can currently get a R9 390X Sapphire Nitro for the price of the gtx 1060(one of the cheaper ones) and i cant really decide. I dont play any games that are biased towards any of the cards and i plan to buy the high end cards of next gen once they come out so this is a short term card. I will overclock, i dont have a gsync/freesync panel, Im playing on 1080p and power draw is of no concern to me. So what would you guys suggest i do? Also as a side note the rx 480 costs the same as a 1060 here so yeah... I would love to buy amd that is why if the 390x is very close to the 1060 then id go for that but if after OC the 1060 is faster then i guess ill just get the 1060.

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390X is MUCH more powerful under DX12/Vulkan but the 1060 is slightly ahead in DX11. If you want less heat - 1060. If you want future-proofness - 390X


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2 minutes ago, SEPH said:

Ok so where i live(Poland) i can currently get a R9 390X Sapphire Nitro for the price of the gtx 1060(one of the cheaper ones) and i cant really decide. I dont play any games that are biased towards any of the cards and i plan to buy the high end cards of next gen once they come out so this is a short term card. I will overclock, i dont have a gsync/freesync panel, Im playing on 1080p and power draw is of no concern to me. So what would you guys suggest i do? Also as a side note the rx 480 costs the same as a 1060 here so yeah... I would love to buy amd that is why if the 390x is very close to the 1060 then id go for that but if after OC the 1060 is faster then i guess ill just get the 1060.

Performance should be similar in games. However, I would go for the 1060 due to: 

  • lower power draw. 
  • lower temps.
  • lower noise. 
  • Way better video encode and decode ( 4K H.265 12 bit hardware acceleration). 

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R9 390x will destroy the GTx 1060 at almost every game.


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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

390X is MUCH more powerful under DX12/Vulkan but the 1060 is slightly ahead in DX11. If you want less heat - 1060. If you want future-proofness - 390X

I don't think 390X is much more powerful under DX12. On vulkan I agree but vulkan is heavily based on mantle. And I don't think vulkan will take off nearly as much as DX12. 


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1 minute ago, Shubham Yadav said:

I don't think 390X is much more powerful under DX12. On vulkan I agree but vulkan is heavily based on mantle. And I don't think vulkan will take off nearly as much as DX12. 

It is - the 390X's A-sync is MUCH better than a 480 and thus gets an additional 10-20% bump compared to the 480. If you look at gains - Hawaii gains the most due to it's jaw-dropping compute performance


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Posted · Original PosterOP

ill take a look at some more benches but the thing is im really interested in the performance after OC

 

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

It is - the 390X's A-sync is MUCH better than a 480 and thus gets an additional 10-20% bump compared to the 480. If you look at gains - Hawaii gains the most due to it's jaw-dropping compute performance

10-20% is not MUCH more. Not to mention the GTX 1060 overclocks pretty high and the custom cards perform way better than the founders edition. 

 

I'm not an Nvidia fanboy but I think after overclocking the 1060, it should be pretty close to the 390X. It will lead in Nvidia titles, lose in AMD titles. I don't think it's worth it to go for older card unless the 490 gets released. 


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also my main games are: WOT. Overwatch, stuff that will run so fast on these GPU's it doesnt matter, and battlefield

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Just now, SEPH said:

ill take a look at some more benches but the thing is im really interested in the performance after OC

 

Well - the 390X and 1060 both OCed will still be close in DX11 but it's a clear win for the 390X in DX12 (Hitman, Ashes, Quantum Break) and Vulkan (DOOM)


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Just now, Shubham Yadav said:

10-20% is not MUCH more. Not to mention the GTX 1060 overclocks pretty high and the custom cards perform way better than the founders edition. 

 

I'm not an Nvidia fanboy but I think after overclocking the 1060, it should be pretty close to the 390X. It will lead in Nvidia titles, lose in AMD titles. I don't think it's worth it to go for older card unless the 490 gets released. 

10-20% on top of the 10% lead the 480 has in DX12/Vulkan. The 1060 OCs, yes - but scaling is piss poor and the difference between 2GHz and 2.2GHz is 3-5fps. Kepler scaling was good, Maxwell was meh, Pascal is shit. Ask @App4that


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Posted · Original PosterOP

yeah thats what i think as well, the main thing for me is the feature sets, and im kinda butthurt that the 390x doesnt support HDR, though neither does the 1060.

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yeah thats what i think as well, the main thing for me is the feature sets, and im kinda butthurt that the 390x doesnt support HDR, though neither does the 1060.

Only 480 does.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

yeah i know but with the BS prices here im not given much of a choice, and unfortunately the 480 is a fair bit slower than a 1060 or 390x, and that may and probably will change over time but the fact remains that this is a card i will use for more or less one year.

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Between a 390x and 1060 I'd go 390x. Not only will it hang in current titles but will also perform well in upcoming titles. Though that's at the same price, if one is cheaper go with that card ether way.


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Just now, SEPH said:

yeah i know but with the BS prices here im not given much of a choice, and unfortunately the 480 is a fair bit slower than a 1060 or 390x, and that may and probably will change over time but the fact remains that this is a card i will use for more or less one year.

480 is about 10% slower in DX11 and 10% faster in DX12


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4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

10-20% on top of the 10% lead the 480 has in DX12/Vulkan. The 1060 OCs, yes - but scaling is piss poor and the difference between 2GHz and 2.2GHz is 3-5fps. Kepler scaling was good, Maxwell was meh, Pascal is shit. Ask @App4that

Can you show me a DX12 title where the 390x beats the 1060 OC by 20% or more. 

 

I don't think so. 


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3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Only 480 does.

Have you seen it though? I wasn't impressed. It looks like a good monitor, so all they did was take a good monitor and slap a proprietary tag on it. Cool marketing but not worth worrying about.


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Just now, App4that said:

Have you seen it though? I wasn't impressed. It looks like a good monitor, so all they did was take a good monitor and slap a proprietary tag on it. Cool marketing but not worth worrying about.

I haven't tried HDR so I cannot speak for it, sorry.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

well i've seen HDR on a non HDR display(and yes it does work) and i find its a great technology that makes the whole expierience better not some BS like ansel that i will never eeven touch. But still thats the only thing that even keeps the 480 in my mind.

 

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1 minute ago, SEPH said:

well i've seen HDR on a non HDR display(and yes it does work) and i find its a great technology that makes the whole expierience better not some BS like ansel that i will never eeven touch 

 

This isn't simulated HDR like Valve did - it's hardware support :D


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Just now, don_svetlio said:

I haven't tried HDR so I cannot speak for it, sorry.

Look nice, but just better screen nice. And they take a page out of Nvidia's marketing book and have a slider that shows shit settings compared to HDR. Now IF HDR allows cheap monitors to look like expensive ones then maybe, but you still have a cheap monitor. But if the worst thing that happens is more people buy better monitors good show AMD.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

well i have seen pictures in HDR on my monitor and the same pictures without it taken by me so i know its no BS and you know i actually really like HDR. Also having a nicer image is for me at least better than having more fps, especially if im still hitting 60fps.

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1 minute ago, SEPH said:

well i have seen pictures in HDR on my monitor and the same pictures without it taken by me so i know its no BS and you know i actually really like HDR. Also having a nicer image is for me at least better than having more fps, especially if im still hitting 60fps.

At 1080p the 480 can get 60fps in just about any game at high-ultra


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Well anyway i think ill just wait until the 1060 is actually released because now its availible for preorder, if the price drops then ill get that if it doesnt im going 390x.

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