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5 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

the NexG is an aurum CM unit, right? the bitfenix fury is the same platform and T3, kinda odd to see them in different tiers. I'd bump it but maybe add a disclaimer for bad value or something. 


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3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

add a disclaimer for bad value or something. 

didn't we have a few page long arguments against this with that german guy who thought we should add prices (or disclaimers like this) 


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5 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

the NexG is an aurum CM unit, right? the bitfenix fury is the same platform and T3, kinda odd to see them in different tiers. I'd bump it but maybe add a disclaimer for bad value or something. 

Yeah, I'm gonna bump it up one.

 

2 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

didn't we have a few page long arguments against this with that german guy who thought we should add prices (or disclaimers like this) 

No monetary anything should be taken into this list since prices vary wildly depending on time of year, things like Cryptocurrency mining and the value of high-wattage PSUs as such, and the location of the purchase.


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10 hours ago, Megah3rtz said:

didn't we have a few page long arguments against this with that german guy who thought we should add prices (or disclaimers like this) 

 

8 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yeah, I'm gonna bump it up one.

 

No monetary anything should be taken into this list since prices vary wildly depending on time of year, things like Cryptocurrency mining and the value of high-wattage PSUs as such, and the location of the purchase.

I have to agree, this list should be based on quality only. 


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22 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

I say no.


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24 minutes ago, JDE said:

I say no.

I bumped it to tier 3. It's decent for a group-regulated unit, is based on the same FSP Aurum platform as the Bitfenix Fury (T3), and should be in the same group as a Seasonic S12/M12.


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3 hours ago, MEC-777 said:

 

I have to agree, this list should be based on quality only. 

Yeah, quality and performance only, and the NEX was always tier 4 because it's just utter garbage for the pricepoint but still an OK unit, but since this is list is quality and performance only this is how it's gonna be.


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54 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I bumped it to tier 3. It's decent for a group-regulated unit, is based on the same FSP Aurum platform as the Bitfenix Fury (T3), and should be in the same group as a Seasonic S12/M12.

Shouldn't the Aurum be Tier 3 then?


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13 minutes ago, JDE said:

Shouldn't the Aurum be Tier 3 then?

There's different Aurums. Agh.


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5 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

There's different Aurums. Agh.

you can list the aurum CM at T3 for starters, since we already have rebadged units at that tier.


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Aurum 92+ is essentially an updated version of the previous Aurum / CM in that it offer better efficiency. It's what the Antec Earthwatt Platinum is based off of.

Aurum S is single rail Aurum / CM but with a medium speed Yateloon sleeved bearing rather than the Protechnic FDB

The Aurum PT updated version of the Aurum Pro.

The Aurum Xilenser is what the Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 10 550-750 is based off of but a bit modified from original fanless design. This the design the NEX650G / 750G should have been based off of TBH.

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On 7/4/2017 at 0:59 PM, STRMfrmXMN said:

Should I bump the EVGA NEX G series up to T3? I feel like it's weird that the Seasonic S12 is there while the NEX is not.

That would defeat everyone we've steered away from it though. It's less that it's group regulated like the S12 and more about their actual performance: IIRC the S12 crossloads quite well for a group regulated unit whereas the NEX doesn't.


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7 minutes ago, Energycore said:

That would defeat everyone we've steered away from it though. It's less that it's group regulated like the S12 and more about their actual performance: IIRC the S12 crossloads quite well for a group regulated unit whereas the NEX doesn't.

But we put other units of the same platform on T3 so that's a thing.

 

It's such poor value I would hope someone would never buy it but I dunno, are we set on T3 for it or nah?


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Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

But we put other units of the same platform on T3 so that's a thing.

 

It's such poor value I would hope someone would never buy it but I dunno, are we set on T3 for it or nah?

Which other units are T3 in there? And do they crossload as bad?


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If it's a group reg unit and doesn't crossload very well, then shove it down the list not up, IMO. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, Energycore said:

Which other units are T3 in there? And do they crossload as bad?

Bitfenix Fury, other Aurums

58 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

If it's a group reg unit and doesn't crossload very well, then shove it down the list not up, IMO. 

Well I bumped it from 4 to 3, but now everybody has conflicting thoughts.


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Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

Bitfenix Fury, other Aurums

Well I bumped it from 4 to 3, but now everybody has conflicting thoughts.

If it performs the same as those, I would leave it. If it's not as good, drop it back to T4. If they really are terribly priced, no one should be buying them anyways, lol. 


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In regards to the S12II-B model showing better crossload than the NEX-G, it's not an apple to apple comparison if you are comparing a 520w [LINK] to a 750w [LINK].

 

As we all know, group-regulated PSUs are inheritedly bad in regards to voltage regulation and crossload scenarios, because the load of one rail can influence the voltages of another. If you put zero loads (or no extra loads) on the minor rails, the voltages on the 12V tend to drop harder as you increase load to it, which also cause the voltages of the minor rails to increase (usually the 5V). This is true the other way around. Since the 12V rating is higher on the NEX-G while having similar minor rail rating (1A difference), it's understandable that the voltage drop on the 12V is greater as you are seeing the limitation of the design.

 

Anyways, the NEX-G and S12II-B / M12II-B 380-620 are a bit poor when talking about v.reg / crossloads when comparing to a DC-DC / Indy regulated PSU in the grand scheme of things, so even if the GB platform is better overall, I wouldn't say it's a drastic difference.

 

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12 minutes ago, quan289 said:

 

 

Can I just ask, how exactly did you get so into PSUs? Are you an electrical engineer? You just know an incredible amount about these things.


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3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

I say Tier 2, due to it replacing the Tier 2 G series, but looks like Tier 1.


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3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

10 year warranty, damn

 

Tier 1 we go


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Tier 2? 36mV ripple. Or Tier 1. Not Tier 3. Ball bearing fan.


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