PSU Tier List [OLD]

[turkey3_scratch]

On 8/13/2016 at 2:44 AM, HKZeroFive said:

The 5V rail is fine. As for the 12V and 3.3V rails, it's all over the place to be honest.

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The progressive load tests aren't really what's the worst part of it. You have to look at the TPU crossload graphs to see where it really does poorly. Every system crossloads these days. On your typical system the load on the 3.3V rail is around 2A, and the 5V rail varies depending on the number of drives you have but with a single hard drive system it shouldn't really go past a couple of amps, not even really. The crossload performance is just poor, like the Pure Power 9, and unlike the S12ii.

[STRMfrmXMN]

8 minutes ago, turkey3_scratch said:

You didn't read the second paragraph of his post.

RIP

[Starelementpoke]

5 hours ago, Energycore said:

Still will recommend to stay away from it until reviews come

Not saying you shouldn't, just a possible bright side.

[turkey3_scratch]

I'm curious what made you make the Hydro G tier 3.

[Energycore]

1 hour ago, turkey3_scratch said:

I'm curious what made you make the Hydro G tier 3.

Link a review and we'll look at it and reconsider.

[HKZeroFive]

11 hours ago, turkey3_scratch said:

I'm curious what made you make the Hydro G tier 3.

I was wondering that as well. It's deserving of a tier two placement instead of tier three.

9 hours ago, Energycore said:

Link a review and we'll look at it and reconsider.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=456

[Energycore]

3 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

I was wondering that as well. It's deserving of a tier two placement instead of tier three.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=456

Got a look at additional reviews that looked at hold-up time, inrush current and advanced transient tests and you're right. This unit isn't just Tier 2, it's on the higher side of T2. The EVGA GQ is also a Gold unit made by FSP, so it's no surprise that they belong in the same tier.

[Mr.Meerkat]

16 hours ago, turkey3_scratch said:

All I know is it's based on the Hydrance CT, which is basically one of Seasonic's mediocre designs. I've looked for a review of a Hydrance CT but I can't find a professional review on one. If anybody knows of one, please point it out to me. But from a price perspective no reason to even consider an XFX XT really with Corsair CXM units.

The problem with it is since it's outsourced (and you mean the Hydrance CT and XT are both based on a seasonic design..but outsourced right?), it uses 85C Caps which is always a good indicator of build quality...It won't blow up but still, not that great when every single component in your PC could get destroyed by the PSU.

 

17 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

XTS != XT

So no love for the XTS still? I wonder if it has anything to do with the XTS series being literally 3  seasonic PSUs on 2 different platforms? 

[STRMfrmXMN]

5 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

The problem with it is since it's outsourced (and you mean the Hydrance CT and XT are both based on a seasonic design..but outsourced right?), it uses 85C Caps which is always a good indicator of build quality...It won't blow up but still, not that great when every single component in your PC could get destroyed by the PSU.

 

So no love for the XTS still? I wonder if it has anything to do with the XTS series being literally 3  seasonic PSUs on 2 different platforms? 

The XTS is a Seasonic unit, right? It's probably fine. The XT is the one that isn't great.

[Mr.Meerkat]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

The XTS is a Seasonic unit, right? It's probably fine. The XT is the one that isn't great.

It's based on the KM3 platform so...good enough?   (I think the XT is really screwing with your memory as you replied to my thread [can't remember what it was on] saying it's an excellent PSU )

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

It's based on the KM3 platform so...good enough?   (I think the XT is really screwing with your memory as you replied to my thread [can't remember what it was on] saying it's an excellent PSU )

X-series is a tier one unit so you're fine

 

Yeah, XFX making one screwup unit messed with me a bit

[Mr.Meerkat]

5 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

X-series is a tier one unit so you're fine

 

Yeah, XFX making one screwup unit messed with me a bit

I know it's fine but is it really that rare that not many people know about this PSU?

Back in 2015, XFX were sending the XTS 1000W PSUs as RMA replacements for the PRO 1050W PSUs as retailers wanted to get rid of their stock on the PRO line of PSUs before they got any stock on the XTS...

Edited August 16, 2016 by Mr.Meerkat
Correcting grammar related mistakes :P

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

I know it's fine but is it really that rare that not many people know about this PSU?

Back in 2015, XFX were sending the XTS 1000W PSUs as RMA replacements for the PRO 1050W PSUs as retailers wanted to get rid of their stock on the PRO line of PSUs before they get any stock on the XTS...

I dunno, guess it belongs on the tier 1 list by now though

 

Why does XFX have multiple KM3 units then? Or am I still confused...

[Mr.Meerkat]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

I dunno, guess it belongs on the tier 1 list by now though

 

Why does XFX have multiple KM3 units then? Or am I still confused...

I'm confused with their naming scheme at the moment...they got rid of the PRO naming scheme it seems and replaced them with XTS and XTR? Soooo bloody confusing  

[turkey3_scratch]

All the Hydro G reviews are below:

 

HG 650 @Toms: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fsp-hydro-g-650-power-supply,4462.html

HG 650 @HardOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/04/14/fsp_hydro_g_650w_power_supply_review#.V7PSM5grL1s

HG 750 @TPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/FSP/HG750/

HG 750 @Jonny: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=456

HG 750 @HardOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/12/04/fsp_hydro_g_750w_power_supply_review#.V7PSNJgrL1s

HG 850 @Jonny: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=472

 

I think that's all of them. I still have yet to read the HardOCP ones; usually Toms/TPU is the most detailed on how a power supply is. I think it's tier 2 worthy, but that's just my opinion.

[turkey3_scratch]

10 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

The problem with it is since it's outsourced (and you mean the Hydrance CT and XT are both based on a seasonic design..but outsourced right?), it uses 85C Caps which is always a good indicator of build quality...It won't blow up but still, not that great when every single component in your PC could get destroyed by the PSU.

 

So no love for the XTS still? I wonder if it has anything to do with the XTS series being literally 3  seasonic PSUs on 2 different platforms? 

Yep that's why I made sure to say Seasonic design instead of "manufactured by". I know I'll bomb the spelling so let me go find it... Shenzhen Ruishengyuan Technology. 85C caps aren't necessarily the end of the wolrd, it depends on other information in the cap data sheets, but most important, how much air that fan moves. But with the CX450M the XT don't seem like they'd be good deals anyway. For a bit more money the Corsair is probably a lot better.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 hour ago, turkey3_scratch said:

All the Hydro G reviews are below:

 

HG 650 @Toms: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fsp-hydro-g-650-power-supply,4462.html

HG 650 @HardOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/04/14/fsp_hydro_g_650w_power_supply_review#.V7PSM5grL1s

HG 750 @TPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/FSP/HG750/

HG 750 @Jonny: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=456

HG 750 @HardOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/12/04/fsp_hydro_g_750w_power_supply_review#.V7PSNJgrL1s

HG 850 @Jonny: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=472

 

I think that's all of them. I still have yet to read the HardOCP ones; usually Toms/TPU is the most detailed on how a power supply is. I think it's tier 2 worthy, but that's just my opinion.

Yeah, it's been re-done

[turkey3_scratch]

25 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yeah, it's been re-done

Coolio!

 

Also, FYI, $26 Corsair CX450M on Newegg after promo and rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139146

[STRMfrmXMN]

Just now, turkey3_scratch said:

Coolio!

 

Also, FYI, $26 Corsair CX450M on Newegg after promo and rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139146

Pretty good deal, wow

[turkey3_scratch]

Enermax Revolution X't II needs added. They come in 450W, 550W, 650W, and 750W variants. All made by CWT and based on the same platform. Below are the reviews so far of this:

 

Revolution X't II 750W Review @Toms: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/enermax-revolution-xt-ii-750w-power-supply,4549.html

Revolution X't II 750W @Jonny: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=473

 

The best way I can describe the X't II is all around very good. It's hard to find any flaws, and it's also hard to find anything phenomenal. But nobody needs phenomenal when everything is good. I suppose holdup time could be its downfall but realistically that's not that important if the PWR_OK signal drops at 12ms vs 16ms. Holdup time measurements are done at 100% load which is really rare, so real holdup time is a lot longer when the load of the computer is lighter.

[PRTI]

21 hours ago, turkey3_scratch said:

Coolio!

 

Also, FYI, $26 Corsair CX450M on Newegg after promo and rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139146

Wow 

[comicsansms]

Thermaltake Smart SE appears to be based on the CWT GPM Platform (like the Corsair VS), so it is a tier 6.

 

 

CWT GPM 650W:

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Thermaltake Smart SE

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[sfxster]

What about the Antec True Power New series? I've been using the 750w model since 2012. Haven't failed me once but I want to know if its time for a change or not.

[comicsansms]

7 minutes ago, sfxster said:

What about the Antec True Power New series? I've been using the 750w model since 2012. Haven't failed me once but I want to know if its time for a change or not.

They are made by Seasonic and are solid units

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=140

[STRMfrmXMN]

5 hours ago, sfxster said:

What about the Antec True Power New series? I've been using the 750w model since 2012. Haven't failed me once but I want to know if its time for a change or not.

They're grrrrr-eat! Would recommend.