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1 hour ago, jonnyGURU said:

It's the in-rush current relay inside the PSU.  It's totally normal.

 

Hoo i see, i thought there was something wrong with my brand new psu.

Btw Jonny, like @seon123 said, there is switch to turn off/on at the back of the psu.

Which one is the better action, always in "on" position or better to turn "off" position when the PC not in use?

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14 hours ago, ZinouTheBeast XXI said:

is it a guess or what ? i am looking for a straight answer

It's a guess because this list is subjective. It's based off how one person feels about the power supplies. I can't read minds.

 

14 hours ago, ZinouTheBeast XXI said:

i am looking for people that really know power suply industy not just random guess

Then why are you asking for "tiers"?

 

The power supply isn't complete crap. It atleast comes with a complete EMI filter with surge and inrush protection, and APFC.

Quality is questionable. Though it's components aren't undersized, given the low capacitor quality, small heatsinks, sleeve bearing fan, I don't expect this unit to last past a few years.

 

It's using a low quality, 8-pin protection IC. So it's missing some cruical protections such as OCP. I also didn't see any OTP implemented anywhere. What does this mean? You can't rely on the PSU not taking parts with it when it dies.

 

Electrical performance is what you'd expect from a cheap double forward + group regulated unit. Voltage regulation is mediocre at best. Ripple is poor on the 3.3V rail. Not only is this unhealthy to your components' lifespans, it implies even less time before you start seeing reboots and PSU problems. Especially when paired with a high end CPU + GPU.

And of course, no support for modern CPU sleep states.

 

It's not quiet either, revving past 1000RPM at just a little over 100w load. You'd also expect coil whine when using a modern, high end GPU, as the PSU is using a double-forward design.

 

Not sure why your friend even considered buying this PSU for his 2080ti system...

I advise a new, high quality PSU.

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9 hours ago, ZidaneTribal said:

Good morning.

I just changed my PSU to Corsair RMX 550w.

When I turned on my PC, I heard sound like "tek", idk where it came from but it seemed from PSU area.

Is that normal?

you mean a "tek" like in flipping a switch?


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2 hours ago, ZidaneTribal said:

Hoo i see, i thought there was something wrong with my brand new psu.

Btw Jonny, like @seon123 said, there is switch to turn off/on at the back of the psu.

Which one is the better action, always in "on" position or better to turn "off" position when the PC not in use?

Leave the switch on... always.

 

Unless you're swapping out components inside the PSU or moving it to another room.

 

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5 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

you mean a "tek" like in flipping a switch?

yes.

 

4 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Leave the switch on... always.

 

Unless you're swapping out components inside the PSU or moving it to another room.

 

noted.

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18 hours ago, Rexper said:

It's a guess because this list is subjective. It's based off how one person feels about the power supplies. I can't read minds.

 

Then why are you asking for "tiers"?

 

The power supply isn't complete crap. It atleast comes with a complete EMI filter with surge and inrush protection, and APFC.

Quality is questionable. Though it's components aren't undersized, given the low capacitor quality, small heatsinks, sleeve bearing fan, I don't expect this unit to last past a few years.

 

It's using a low quality, 8-pin protection IC. So it's missing some cruical protections such as OCP. I also didn't see any OTP implemented anywhere. What does this mean? You can't rely on the PSU not taking parts with it when it dies.

 

Electrical performance is what you'd expect from a cheap double forward + group regulated unit. Voltage regulation is mediocre at best. Ripple is poor on the 3.3V rail. Not only is this unhealthy to your components' lifespans, it implies even less time before you start seeing reboots and PSU problems. Especially when paired with a high end CPU + GPU.

And of course, no support for modern CPU sleep states.

 

It's not quiet either, revving past 1000RPM at just a little over 100w load. You'd also expect coil whine when using a modern, high end GPU, as the PSU is using a double-forward design.

 

Not sure why your friend even considered buying this PSU for his 2080ti system...

I advise a new, high quality PSU.

well thank you so much for this indepth answer i was looking for this kind of reply :D my friend had before i7 8700k + gtx 1060 , then he upgraded to rtx 2080ti , in our country not all products are msrp prices only some brands that signed contracts with  some of our major retail stores for example thermaltake so because our currency is too low 1$= 120 DA buying 137$ powrsuply from thermaltake = 12000 DA  but buying for example EVGA power suply which deos not exist in out country only if some on bought it online will cost around double the price , i know  what you are going to say you must not cheap out on your powersuply if you want to pair it with high end system , but this major retailer in our country is claiming and told my friend that it is more than okay to pair it with his new gpu , and because i couldn't find any other other decent powersuply i bought it last month , paired with i5 8600k + maybe i will get rtx 2070

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52 minutes ago, Faroukh_Surat said:

Looking at purchasing this

https://au.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=120-GP-0650-X4

Listed as an EVGA G1+ on the website I wish to purchase it from.

Part number is GP (I think)

Exactly what Tier is this model please ? (Yes I is confused)

Thanks

Tier 2. Quite good.


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👋 Guys, flour choice between the Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W and Corsair RM750i.
The price is the same, but:
12 years warranty for Seasonic; 5 years for Corsair in my country;
Corsair has a monitoring function, even though I may start it once and forget it, but it's nice. He is also 750W versus 650W for Seasonic. I read that Seasonic can have a squeal of chokes, which is critical for me and I can not stand it, but I did not see how things are going with the Prime Ultra Gold 650W.
In general, Seasonic is captivating with a guarantee, and Corsair has more, but it will be a shame if after 6 years Corsair fails, who thinks about it.
BP chose from criteria - silence, full modularity, price up to $ 185
Online store: https://can.ua/psu/c1478/

P.S.: sry for my eng... 😐

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38 minutes ago, baxenko said:

👋 Guys, flour choice between the Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W and Corsair RM750i.
The price is the same, but:
12 years warranty for Seasonic; 5 years for Corsair in my country;
Corsair has a monitoring function, even though I may start it once and forget it, but it's nice. He is also 750W versus 650W for Seasonic. I read that Seasonic can have a squeal of chokes, which is critical for me and I can not stand it, but I did not see how things are going with the Prime Ultra Gold 650W.
In general, Seasonic is captivating with a guarantee, and Corsair has more, but it will be a shame if after 6 years Corsair fails, who thinks about it.
BP chose from criteria - silence, full modularity, price up to $ 185
Online store: https://can.ua/psu/c1478/

P.S.: sry for my eng... 😐

RM750i? 5 year warranty? @jonnyGURU is that correct?

 

I'd probably go for the Corsair either way.


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19 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

RM750i? 5 year warranty? @jonnyGURU is that correct?

 

I'd probably go for the Corsair either way.

10 year warranty on the RMi units.
 

1 hour ago, baxenko said:

choice between the Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W and Corsair RM750i.
The price is the same, but:
12 years warranty for Seasonic; 5 years for Corsair in my country;

The Corsair RMi units have 10 year warranty, worldwide. If you need to make a claim you will ship the unit to Corsair in another country regardless. No reason that the warranty would be less in your country.

What system are you buying the PSU for? What specs? Might not need a 650/750W PSU.


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2 hours ago, baxenko said:

Guys, flour choice between the Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W and Corsair RM750i.

Corsair, hands down.

 

2 hours ago, baxenko said:

The price is the same, but:
12 years warranty for Seasonic; 5 years for Corsair in my country;

No, you have either 7 or 10 years. The Warranty is worldwide.

But that is not the important part.

 

The important part is what happens when your unit fails, where do you have to send it and how much does it cost??

Having 20 Year Warranty is useless, if you have to spend 50€ to send it to the RMA Center.

That is also something to keep in mind.

 

Also You need your receit for it as well.


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12 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

The important part is what happens when your unit fails, where do you have to send it and how much does it cost??

Having 20 Year Warranty is useless, if you have to spend 50€ to send it to the RMA Center.

That is also something to keep in mind.

Right. Officially, corsair power supplies are not brought to Ukraine. And I do not consider delivery to other countries as a minimum because the tax, the price of delivery and time.

 

 

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

What specs? Might not need a 650/750W PSU

Did not mention a config since I myself do not know what other PC I will be collecting, at the moment - 4790k (4.6 Hz), GTX 1070 (2000mhz), 2xSSD (no HDD). But it will all become irrelevant this summer, because I'm going to update the PC and start with the power supply, presumably it will be zen2\9900K + gtx 1080TI. Because I look "future".

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7 minutes ago, baxenko said:

Right. Officially, corsair power supplies are not brought to Ukraine. And I do not consider delivery to other countries as a minimum because the tax, the price of delivery and time.

Hmm, maybe I'm making a bit of a leap here but I've seen other people mention that they will buy grey market PSUs from people that buy the units in another country and then import them in to the country, and end up avoid paying tax on them so sell them for like $20-$30 cheaper than what they cost in stores (if the local stores even sell that brand). Is that how you'd be sourcing the Corsair units? From someone who buys in another country and brings back across the border without paying tax on them? Because if that's the case then you probably won't have a receipt and won't be able to claim any warranty at all. The dodgy bloke selling goods without paying tax on them definitely isn't going to honour warranty if they are faulty either.

If you care about warranty, make sure you buy from a proper retailer so that you won't have any issues proving you purchased it legitimately if you ever do need to submit a warranty claim.

 

11 minutes ago, baxenko said:

Did not mention a config since I myself do not know what other PC I will be collecting, at the moment - 4790k (4.6 Hz), GTX 1070 (2000mhz), 2xSSD (no HDD). But it will all become irrelevant this summer, because I'm going to update the PC and start with the power supply, presumably it will be zen2\9900K + gtx 1080TI. Because I look "soon". 

Unless your current PSU is bad and needs replacing, I'd just wait until you have a plan for what your system will be and then think about what PSU you need for the system.


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9 hours ago, LienusLateTips said:

RM750i? 5 year warranty? @jonnyGURU is that correct?

 

I'd probably go for the Corsair either way.

No.  That's not right.

 

Corsair warranty does not vary by country.  It's ALWAYS 10 years on an RMi.

 

@baxenko is talking about the warranty he gets from the reseller.

 

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I know that this may be less relevant due to the newer list being out, but this direct carbon copy of the list: https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/

 made me chuckle. Ignoring the fact that they did not credit anyone here, the tier labels are the funniest, with them only not recommending the lowest tier when realistically (on their list) tier 3 and below is where the crap units come into play.

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8 minutes ago, Matsozetex said:

I know that this may be less relevant due to the newer list being out, but this direct carbon copy of the list: https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/

 made me chuckle. Ignoring the fact that they did not credit anyone here, the tier labels are the funniest, with them only not recommending the lowest tier when realistically (on their list) tier 3 and below is where the crap units come into play.

🤔

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? Though in this case, I'm guessing they simply don't have enough knowledge to do anything other than to rip off others. Quite poorly too :P

 

Lots of companies/publications do the same. Just two examples:

Vox ripping off Adam Neely

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And LTT ripping off Chyrosran22

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And that's before even mentioning all of the content farms...

But I mean, as long as it helps people avoid the worst of the worst PSUs, I suppose that it at least helps...


 

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I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

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Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

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Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

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