Help me choose parts for my new PC Build

[Rabih.H]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

i5s are bottlenecking gtx 980ti class graphics cards now.

Not possible. I have seen rigs with 3 way Titan X's in SLI with i5 6600Ks. It is extremely hard to bottleneck an i5 nowadays.

[Rabih.H]

5 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

more games are needing the extra cores now, best to get an i5 since he can fit it in the budget.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/71760-intel-skylake-i5-6500-i5-6400-i3-6100-review-10.html

 

There is literally a 1-2 FPS increase in games between the i5 6500 and the i3 6100. In a couple games that prefer single core performance, the i3 comes out on top.

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

Not possible. I have seen rigs with 3 way Titan X's in SLI with i5 6600Ks. It is extremely hard to bottleneck an i5 nowadays.

[Matias_Chambers]

3 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

Not possible. I have seen rigs with 3 way Titan X's in SLI with i5 6600Ks. It is extremely hard to bottleneck an i5 nowadays.

A 6600K will bottleneck a GTX 1070 by about 10-20%.

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

Not possible. I have seen rigs with 3 way Titan X's in SLI with i5 6600Ks. It is extremely hard to bottleneck an i5 nowadays.

yes it is. look at the benchmarks above. and the i5 is better than an i3. why do you think everyone recommends quad cores whenever possible? i3s aren't as capable as they used to; newer games may stutter and have worse experiences with an i3 compared to an i5.

[Matias_Chambers]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

yes it is. look at the benchmarks above. and the i5 is better than an i3. why do you think everyone recommends quad cores whenever possible? i3s aren't as capable as they used to; newer games may stutter and have worse experiences with an i3 compared to an i5.

Yeah i3's will run games at pretty good fps but you will get a lot of stuttering compared to an i5. 

[Matias_Chambers]

If you can pay a bit more get this:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/szFNQV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/szFNQV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (₹14450.00 @ Amazon India) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (₹5200.00 @ Amazon India) 
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (₹2795.00 @ Amazon India) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (₹2923.00 @ Amazon India) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (₹3820.00 @ Amazon India) 
Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (₹4160.00 @ Amazon India) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD/CD Writer  (₹990.00 @ Amazon India) 
Monitor: Dell E2215HV 21.5" 60Hz Monitor  (₹8390.00 @ Amazon India) 
Other: Radeon RX 480 8 GB (Wait for aftermarket cooler) or GTX 1060 when it comes out (₹30000.00)
Total: ₹72728.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-18 14:07 IST+0530

[Rabih.H]

13 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

Literally all of those games are CPU bound. Of course there will be an FPS difference between the i5's and i7's.

[akashmahale]

13 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

If you can pay a bit more get this:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/szFNQV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/szFNQV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (₹14450.00 @ Amazon India) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (₹5200.00 @ Amazon India) 
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (₹2795.00 @ Amazon India) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (₹2923.00 @ Amazon India) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (₹3820.00 @ Amazon India) 
Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (₹4160.00 @ Amazon India) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD/CD Writer  (₹990.00 @ Amazon India) 
Monitor: Dell E2215HV 21.5" 60Hz Monitor  (₹8390.00 @ Amazon India) 
Other: Radeon RX 480 8 GB (Wait for aftermarket cooler) or GTX 1060 when it comes out (₹30000.00)
Total: ₹72728.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-18 14:07 IST+0530

thats too out of my reach...

[Rabih.H]

19 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

A 6600K will bottleneck a GTX 1070 by about 10-20%.

 

 

That is absolutely ridiculous, and is not possible. Go to PC Part Picker and ask in the forums there. They are full of proper, knowledgeable people who really know what they're doing.

[Rabih.H]

19 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

yes it is. look at the benchmarks above. and the i5 is better than an i3. why do you think everyone recommends quad cores whenever possible? i3s aren't as capable as they used to; newer games may stutter and have worse experiences with an i3 compared to an i5.

Show me actual benchmarks, not youtube videos. I always stay away from youtube videos for benchmarks because they are generally wrong.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

 

That is absolutely ridiculous, and is not possible. Go to PC Part Picker and ask in the forums there. They are full of proper, knowledgeable people who really know what they're doing.

don't be ignorant, the i5s cannot take a gtx 1070 and above without bottlenecking. 

2 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

Show me actual benchmarks, not youtube videos. I always stay away from youtube videos for benchmarks because they are generally wrong.

i'm not the one showing youtube videos.

[Rabih.H]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

don't be ignorant, the i5s cannot take a gtx 1070 and above without bottlenecking. 

i'm not the one showing youtube videos.

https://www.quora.com/Will-an-Intel-Core-i5-6600k-be-a-bottleneck-to-a-GTX-1070-for-gaming

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3115452/gtx-1080-gtx-1070-bottleneck-6600k.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3052479/6600k-6500-gtx-1070.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3093654/6600k-bottleneck-gtx-1070.html

 

I have never, ever heard of something as far fetched' as that.

[Sky Daddy]

43 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

i5s are bottlenecking gtx 980ti class graphics cards now.

not really, it really depends on the game

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

https://www.quora.com/Will-an-Intel-Core-i5-6600k-be-a-bottleneck-to-a-GTX-1070-for-gaming

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3115452/gtx-1080-gtx-1070-bottleneck-6600k.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3052479/6600k-6500-gtx-1070.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3093654/6600k-bottleneck-gtx-1070.html

 

I have never, ever heard of something as far fetched' as that.

@don_svetlio hey man, this guy wouldn't stop believing that the 6600k won't bottleneck the gtx 1070/980ti, do you have any benchmarks or such that says otherwise?

[Rabih.H]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

@don_svetlio hey man, this guy wouldn't stop believing that the 6600k won't bottleneck the gtx 1070/980ti, do you have any benchmarks or such that says otherwise?

I don't 'believe' that a 6600K bottlenecks a 1070/980Ti. I KNOW that as a FACT it doesn't bottleneck a 980Ti. The i5 6600K is the most powerful CPU you can get for gaming (in non CPU bound games).

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

I don't 'believe' that a 6600K bottlenecks a 1070/980Ti. I KNOW that as a FACT it doesn't bottleneck a 980Ti. The i5 6600K is the most powerful CPU you can get for gaming (in non CPU bound games).

a 6600k isn't the best thing you can get for gaming, the xeons/i7s are now the best for gaming pcs with top-end graphics cards. the i5 will bottleneck, we've already shown you the benchmarks. stop acting like you know everything.

 

[Matias_Chambers]

30 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

Show me actual benchmarks, not youtube videos. I always stay away from youtube videos for benchmarks because they are generally wrong.

Did you even watch the videos? In the first video skip to 3:00. Please explain why the fps on a GTX 1070 is the same as a 970 other than it being a bottleneck. And how could there be so low GPU usage? It is clearly a bottleneck.

[Matias_Chambers]

35 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

 

That is absolutely ridiculous, and is not possible. Go to PC Part Picker and ask in the forums there. They are full of proper, knowledgeable people who really know what they're doing.

If you watched  the videos, you would see that it is possible and true. 

[Rabih.H]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

a 6600k isn't the best thing you can get for gaming, the xeons/i7s are now the best for gaming pcs with top-end graphics cards. the i5 will bottleneck, we've already shown you the benchmarks. stop acting like you know everything.

 

Yes it is. Do you know what the difference between i5's and i7's are? Hyperthreading and a slightly better FSB, which is for rendering and memory hogging applications. Hyperthreading is useful in games that utilise every single core. The majority of games support 4 cores. There are some games that do use every singe core, and there are some extremely heavy CPU bound games that will show a major increase between i5s and i7s. But generally, i5s will suffice. You haven't shown me any viable benchmarks. You showed me a list of CPU bound games where i5s were beaten by i7s. I don't know everything. I know what my past 5 years of heavy PC building experience has taught me. My dad has been in the IT industry for 30+ years. I have years of comments on PCPP helping and learning from others.

[Rabih.H]

9 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

a 6600k isn't the best thing you can get for gaming, the xeons/i7s are now the best for gaming pcs with top-end graphics cards. the i5 will bottleneck, we've already shown you the benchmarks. stop acting like you know everything.

 

Yes it is. Do you know what the difference between i5's and i7's are? Hyperthreading and a slightly better FSB, which is for rendering and memory hogging applications. Hyperthreading is useful in games that utilise every single core. The majority of games support 4 cores. There are some games that do use every singe core, and there are some extremely heavy CPU bound games that will show a major increase between i5s and i7s. But generally, i5s will suffice. You haven't shown me any viable benchmarks. You showed me a list of CPU bound games where i5s were beaten by i7s.

[Rabih.H]

8 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

If you watched  the videos, you would see that it is possible and true. 

I watched them. The game he is playing is CPU bound. Did you read the comments? Did you notice the 50%+ dislikes? Obviously not, because all over them are written "So 10 of these sites say that it is fine yet this 1 video says bottleneck?"

[Rabih.H]

1 hour ago, herman mcpootis said:

Alrighty. I just took a good look at those benchmarks, and those are comparing the lowest FPS the CPUs achieved. On top of that, literally almost every single one of those games use hyperthreading. Those are unfair benchmarks and are very inaccurate.

[don_svetlio]

11 minutes ago, Rabih.H said:

Alrighty. I just took a good look at those benchmarks, and those are comparing the lowest FPS the CPUs achieved. On top of that, literally almost every single one of those games use hyperthreading. Those are unfair benchmarks and are very inaccurate.

Those show massive frame drops on the i5 - aka stutter.

[don_svetlio]

If you don't want to believe it fine, your money, waste it however well you please. But don't post a new topic with a title "why is my 1070 not as good as X 1070 on youtube?"  cause you already have the answer - your i5 will bottleneck it