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Dell releases perfect monitor? (New 30" Ultrasharp)

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2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the thing with the majority of dell's stuff, is that *someone* out there needs it. and it's most likely that insanely priced because they dont expect to sell a whole lot of them, so the upmark for research and tooling per montior is bigger.

 

also, it's dell. dell wouldnt be dell if they didnt do something ridiculous every so often.

I am genuinely curious as there might be someone out there who genuinely will get this not just for show. But I am not 100% sure it's not just a useless stat and Dell just trying to go "Look at how awesome this is!" To sell it not because someone asks for it.

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7 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Sure you could do that. But then again it would look identical on an 800 bucks 4k 60hz panel. 

 

See this is what nobody can explain, who actually CAN benefit from 4k 120hz today? Counter strike players? The poly count is so low it hardly matters to have more resolution. Designers? Nope still images. Video editors? Nope nobody is editing any video at 120hz. Do we even have cameras that can record 4k at 120hz? All high speed cameras actually lower the resolution often quite a bit to achieve that.

 

This is literally a product just nobody needs. It's 5 grand for a fucking stat on a paper nobody can actually do anything useful with it.

it's like arguing who needs a bugatti veyron... maybe the world fastest business man

it's not about the need, it's about the want :D

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

I am genuinely curious as there might be someone out there who genuinely will get this not just for show. But I am not 100% sure it's not just a useless stat and Dell just trying to go "Look at how awesome this is!" To sell it not because someone asks for it.

well, i couldnt give you many examples where a single slot GPU needs to push 9 4K60Hz panels over HDMI either.

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

it's like arguing who needs a bugatti veyron... maybe the world fastest business man

it's not about the need, it's about the want :D

But you can actually go to a race tracks or find special roads where you can actually drive it at 400km/h and genuinely enjoy the experience. There is nothing outside of bechmarks that actually make use of 4k 120hz.

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

it's like arguing who needs a bugatti veyron... maybe the world fastest business man

it's not about the need, it's about the want :D

it's about the "this thing will be standing next to a $50K workstation either way, we can take the extra 3000 dollars over the slightly lower end model."

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the thing with the majority of dell's stuff, is that *someone* out there needs it. and it's most likely that insanely priced because they dont expect to sell a whole lot of them, so the upmark for research and tooling per montior is bigger.

 

also, it's dell. dell wouldnt be dell if they didnt do something ridiculous every so often.

The nice thing is now that they have it at some point it will get cheaper and be offered in lower price point models, in addition to that one over time getting cheaper anyway. It is a bit of a kick in the balls to the current U3014 owners like me and UP3017 owners, that price is just insane!

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2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

it's about the "this thing will be standing next to a $50K workstation either way, we can take the extra 3000 dollars over the slightly lower end model."

The looks are not even that impressive. If it was like a maglev floating screen or literally no visible vessels at all then yes I can see the looks argument.

 

This is a number on the fucking box: 120hz 4k.

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

The nice thing is now that they have it at some point it will get cheaper and be offered in lower price point models, in addition to that one over time getting cheaper anyway. It is a bit of a kick in the balls to the current U3014 owners like me and UP3017 owners, that price is just insane!

well, i managed to pick up an UP2414Q for something like €300 a bit ago, somehow dell stuff loses value insanely quick xD

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2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

The looks are not even that impressive. If it was like a maglev floating screen or literally no visible vessels at all then yes I can see the looks argument.

 

This is a number on the fucking box: 120hz 4k.

you never used a dell monitor stand have you? it's a frikkin maglev. you push the screen and it goes where you want it. meanwhile my samsung panel is like wrestling a rusty droid.

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2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

But you can actually go to a race tracks or find special roads where you can actually drive it at 400km/h and genuinely enjoy the experience. There is nothing outside of bechmarks that actually make use of 4k 120hz.

the same argument exist for this monitor...

you can have 120hz to run your old games without having to swap to a 1080p 120hz display, and then alt-tab to edit your 4k contents :D

 

but really, this monitor is just for the "wow" factor, just like the GTX Titans

it'll be a mainstream spec one day though, again just like the previous GTX Titans

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

you never used a dell monitor stand have you? it's a frikkin maglev. you push the screen and it goes where you want it. meanwhile my samsung panel is like wrestling a rusty droid.

That sounds impressive, not worth the price of 2 or 3 decent cars.

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Hahah the guy was right! So pretty soon someone I think Asus is going to be releasing a new monitor, Ultra wide, 4K, IPS, 144hz, 1ms, all for around $2000 I think. Some Scottish dude at micro center had some nice inside info. 

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4 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

That sounds impressive, not worth the price of 2 or 3 decent cars.

Well the are plenty of insane people out there that would consider buying one, like me :P. Not at that price but just for reference I spent $730USD on my case so yea I'm a self confessed idiot.

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Hahah the guy was right! So pretty soon someone I think Asus is going to be releasing a new monitor, Ultra wide, 4K, IPS, 144hz, 1ms, all for around $2000 I think. Some Scottish dude at micro center had some nice inside info. 

Honestly that makes this sound like a better deal.  OLED instead of IPS, 0.1 ms instead of 1 ms, ... well all the other benefits like contrast, etc are inherent to OLED so I'm not listing them :P

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5 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Well the are plenty of insane people out there that would consider buying one, like me :P. Not at that price but just for reference I spent $730USD on my case so yea I'm a self confessed idiot.

It's the fact that, that monitor is pretty much grade A+ perfect, and it's now available.  Therefore, you can't help but think, "Well, this is my next monitor for.. well, EVER."  So, you justify the cost.  I know I am.  Then again if we wait a year, it'll probably be $1200.  But.. waiting is for suckers.  EARLY ADOPTION!

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It looks like it doesn't have HDR...

Well, it is damn close tho, and for now this is probably as good as it's going to get for a while. Like 1-2 years :D 

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2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Honestly that makes this sound like a better deal.  OLED instead of IPS, 0.1 ms instead of 1 ms, ... well all the other benefits like contrast, etc are inherent to OLED so I'm not listing them :P

This is exactly what I was waiting for but $5K is way too much

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1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

It looks like it doesn't have HDR...

Well, it is damn close tho, and for now this is probably as good as it's going to get for a while. Like 1-2 years :D 

It's a 10 bit panel

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52 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well this article is from today so if you find earlier news let me know :)

 

56 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

I thought we knew about this one for a while.

We've known about this for 6 months now :P

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11 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

It looks like it doesn't have HDR...

Well, it is damn close tho, and for now this is probably as good as it's going to get for a while. Like 1-2 years :D 

HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, also known as contrast ratio. Check out it's static 400,000:1 vs 1000:1 of even the best IPS panels, that's real not the fake rubbish 2mil:1 crap you see on spec sheets.

 

Edit: And yes I know HDR and high contrast ratio isn't quite the same thing but a panel with a 10bit chip and 400,000:1 contrast ratio will have an extremely good dynamic range. HDR is just a tech acronym, it's essentially meaningless other than computer display outputs now supporting it.

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@Glenwing I think we need expert clarification on the whole 10-bit/HDR thing and how it pertains to this monitor :) 

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1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

@Glenwing I think we need expert clarification on the whole 10-bit/HDR thing and how it pertains to this monitor :) 

 

11 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

It's a 10 bit panel

 

11 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

This is exactly what I was waiting for but $5K is way too much

 

12 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

It looks like it doesn't have HDR...

Well, it is damn close tho, and for now this is probably as good as it's going to get for a while. Like 1-2 years :D 

It does have HDR. It's a full 10-bit panel. For non-10-bit streams, the HDR can be added to make use of the extra bit space. That's the beauty of 10-bit panels. The functionality is actually built in. It just takes a firmware tweak to make it visible to games and other applications.

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i hope this thing is a signal that OLED will soon enough be good enough for monitors, maybe next year asus or somebody could release a 1440p version of this for a third of the price and in 2 years the holy sub $1000 price point.

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You can leave it to dell to make a perfect monitor. This checks pretty much every box of a perfect monitor. 

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6 minutes ago, leadeater said:

HDR stands for High Dynamic Range, also known as contrast ratio. Check out it's static 400,000:1 vs 1000:1 of even the best IPS panels, that's real not the fake rubbish 2mil:1 crap you see on spec sheets.

I'm completely lost.

So a 10-bit panel = HDR support?

 

Is it even possible to push 4k 120hz with HDR? I know DP1.3 can only go up to 60Hz with HDR and 120Hz at SDR.

Don't know if DP1.4 fixes stuff...

 

Also how is the software for that? Can you just switch from SDR and high refresh rate to HDR and lower refresh rate?

The HDR FAP video didn't make it clear to me btw... It's very confusing to me.

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