Hillary Clinton Unveils Tech Platform

[drc00k3]

2 hours ago, djsoggy1234 said:

Fuck... how are my emails gonna be safe now?

Don't worry! Your unencrypted home email server will be safe for even the most top secret emails.

[Misanthrope]

Like all of her "platforms" if you don't agree just wait 5 minutes for her to completely fucking change it.

[stconquest]

6 hours ago, Centurius said:

One of the worst things you can do for your financial situation is running for president.

Please elaborate. 

[Trik'Stari]

Everyone please remember.

 

Politicians will promise you ANYTHING to get elected. How often do they actually deliver?

[zacRupnow]

33 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Please elaborate. 

In 2008 she dropped the race because in return Obama gave her Secretary State and paid off her campaign debt. Very common practices... The 'establishment' is very confused about  Bernie because he isn't taking the deals for positions or campaign pay offs, he just wants progressive policies. Whether you agree with his polocies or not you gotta respect him for that and for not changing position all the time.

[stconquest]

2 minutes ago, zacRupnow said:

In 2008 she dropped the race because in return Obama gave her Secretary State and paid off her campaign debt. Very common practices... The 'establishment' is very confused about  Bernie because he isn't taking the deals for positions or campaign pay offs, he just wants progressive policies. Whether you agree with his polocies or not you gotta respect him for that and for not changing position all the time.

ok... how does that indicate that running for president is detrimental to an individual's income?  What you state sort of indicates that running in 2008 and not winning was not a factor to Clinton's income.

 

I could further argue that her running, and losing, in 2008 might have even increased her earning potential as a career politician.

[BOT Edward]

Lmao she just wants to win the votes of the younger generation as that's the majority of population  

[Trik'Stari]

If she actually did this, people would have access to sources of information that would out her as the completely evil piece of shit she is.

 

 

It's not happening.

 

(Trump is stupid evil, Shillary is intentionally and somewhat intelligent, evil. Pick whichever one you would rather fight. I'll take the idiot)

[Misanthrope]

If you guys have 13 minutes:

 

[Trik'Stari]

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

If you guys have 13 minutes:

 

13 minutes, out of 68 years?

[Misanthrope]

2 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

13 minutes, out of 68 years?

There's not enough hard drive space in the world to capture ALL of her lies this is just what she was fucking stupid enough to state and then contradict on the record.

[zacRupnow]

4 hours ago, stconquest said:

ok... how does that indicate that running for president is detrimental to an individual's income?  What you state sort of indicates that running in 2008 and not winning was not a factor to Clinton's income.

 

I could further argue that her running, and losing, in 2008 might have even increased her earning potential as a career politician.

Elections are expensive. Someone like Clinton who gets $250,000 for one hour speech to GoldmanSacks will not feel it. Someone like Sanders who makes the lowest amount a Senator in the US can make, $250,000 for a year, will have a hard time paying off campaign dept, basically like student loans for politicians.

[stconquest]

20 minutes ago, zacRupnow said:

Elections are expensive. Someone like Clinton who gets $250,000 for one hour speech to GoldmanSacks will not feel it. Someone like Sanders who makes the lowest amount a Senator in the US can make, $250,000 for a year, will have a hard time paying off campaign dept, basically like student loans for politicians.

We are talking about Hilary Clinton here, not Sanders.  Sanders is funded by people, millions of them. 

 

Don't forget it is not just Hilary making the political bank here.  Bill Clinton was named as a chair for a university while Hilary was secretary of state, fucker was paid 6M and did no even have to show up to meetings. 

[MrDynamicMan]

10 hours ago, AresKrieger said:

To you yes, to me I'd rather the office be vacant than have Hillary in charge. Anyone selling influence to foreigners should not be allowed in office, that women is a corrupt piece of trash. At least with Trump his ideas are his own for better or worse, though I'm only likely voting for him since people I hate have lined up in droves behind that robotic women.

Unfortunately, the office can't be vacant. Even if I wish it could.

But having a useless beurocrat is pretty close, IMO.

We're in a state of damage control, and the least damaging option is Hillary.

 

Likewise, Hitler's ideas were his own. Should we be voting Hitler instead of Hillary?

[MrDynamicMan]

I think the best part is people calling Hillary a lying piece of shit, while trump has yet to release his tax returns, and has done a political 360 from liberal to radical conservatist. People rally against hillary because she 'isn't trustworthy' but then vote for trump. The irony is palpable.

[nosirrah123]

14 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said:

I think the best part is people calling Hillary a lying piece of shit, while trump has yet to release his tax returns, and has done a political 360 from liberal to radical conservatist. People rally against hillary because she 'isn't trustworthy' but then vote for trump. The irony is palpable.

The difference is that he doesn't deny his change of opinion, and it's debatable whether it was politically motivated. Hillary however, changed her opinion on several issues as public opinion changed and flatly denies it, despite VIDEO EVIDENCE.

 

Moving past flip-flopping, Hillary has displayed her willingness to take bribes at the expense of the country. While it would be shitty if it turned out Trump was doing something silly with taxes it wouldn't be nearly as bad as the innumerable things Hillary is responsible for.

[MrDynamicMan]

5 minutes ago, nosirrah123 said:

The difference is that he doesn't deny his change of opinion, and it's debatable whether it was politically motivated. Hillary however, changed her opinion on several issues as public opinion changed and flatly denies it, despite VIDEO EVIDENCE.

 

Moving past flip-flopping, Hillary has displayed her willingness to take bribes at the expense of the country. While it would be shitty if it turned out Trump was doing something silly with taxes it wouldn't be nearly as bad as the innumerable things Hillary is responsible for.

I don't disagree that Hillary is a bad candidate. But she remains on the straight and narrow. She with do much in office, but trump will do a whole lot of bad things. And trump is far from an honest person. He's going bullshit accusations at everyone, And lied through his teeth. Remember him accusing Ted Cruz of killing JFK, or Obama not being American? 

[nosirrah123]

2 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said:

I don't disagree that Hillary is a bad candidate. But she remains on the straight and narrow. She with do much in office, but trump will do a whole lot of bad things. And trump is far from an honest person. He's going bullshit accusations at everyone, And lied through his teeth. Remember him accusing Ted Cruz of killing JFK, or Obama not being American? 

I don't know if I would call that lying. Seems more like stupidity or irrationality to me. Look, Trump certainly isn't perfect, but at the end of the day I'd rather have somebody in office who seems to actually like America. Plus I like some of his policies, since I am a conservative.

[MrDynamicMan]

22 minutes ago, nosirrah123 said:

I don't know if I would call that lying. Seems more like stupidity or irrationality to me. Look, Trump certainly isn't perfect, but at the end of the day I'd rather have somebody in office who seems to actually like America. Plus I like some of his policies, since I am a conservative.

What policies though? He basically just talks in headlines. The only concrete 'policies' he has is to ban Muslims and rapist Mexicans. He is the epitome of all the bad things about conservatism.

[stconquest]

Trump supporters are, at the very least, fun to listen to... but the bullshit gets old eventually.

 

Two corrupt candidates, one as bad as the next.  One is smarter, one is dumber.  Believing that neither of them is 100% "evil", I would go with the smarter one.

[Michael McAllister]

15 hours ago, spartaman64 said:

me being chinese people like to ask me do you think capitalism or communism is better and my answer is all of the above. the best economic system is a balance between the two

TLDR: I agree with you.

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There are aspects of communism that make sense, but with any system, there are flaws.  Pure socialism doesn't work either, but there are aspects of it that work incredibly well.

In a communistic society, for example, it's very difficult to innovate on products and services because the government dictates that market.  There is no incentive in that system for technology to advance.  If companies are allowed to create products in an open market, innovation naturally will happen.

Pure socialism doesn't really work either because people typically want to pursue their own career path and if a certain segment of a socialist society is not being fulfilled, they will have to work in that field regardless if they want to or not.  On the flipside, everyone in such a society would have work/pay and access to necessary services like healthcare.

Democratic socialism seems to work the best because it enables the private sector to innovate and advance society, but it basically says that necessary things like healthcare should not be treated like a business.  Access to healthcare is necessary for individuals to survive and therefore people should have access to it regardless of their economic status.

Unfortunately, in the United States, if you're not poor but not rich either, those necessary services are much harder to attain.  People pay thousands of dollars for care and often times go into debt or end up homeless trying to pay off their bills.  For extremely wealthy individuals, this isn't a problem obviously, but the vast majority of people either don't go to the doctor as often as they should or don't cut their prescriptions in half just to try to get by.

If you are poor, healthcare is similar in some aspects to Canada in terms of coverage.  You won't necessarily be able to see the best doctors though.  The best doctors typically see patients that get coverage from for-profit insurance companies.  That in and of itself is a problem, however.  For-profit insurance companies do not have an incentive to provide coverage.  They don't make money if they have to pay your medical bills and have every incentive to deny coverage.

[Michael McAllister]

1 hour ago, nosirrah123 said:

I don't know if I would call that lying. Seems more like stupidity or irrationality to me. Look, Trump certainly isn't perfect, but at the end of the day I'd rather have somebody in office who seems to actually like America. Plus I like some of his policies, since I am a conservative.

That's the thing.  What exactly are his policies?  His proposals seem to change depending on his mood.  I'm not even talking about disagreeing or agreeing with him.  He has no actual plan.  For the sake of argument, even if I disagree with someone completely on a certain issue, at least I know what their position is.

 

I don't know what he wants to achieve because I don't think he actually knows either.  He just wants to be the "best"—whatever that means.

[rcarlos243]

5 hours ago, MrDynamicMan said:

What policies though? He basically just talks in headlines. The only concrete 'policies' he has is to ban Muslims and rapist Mexicans. He is the epitome of all the bad things about conservatism.

 

3 hours ago, Michael McAllister said:

That's the thing.  What exactly are his policies?  His proposals seem to change depending on his mood.  I'm not even talking about disagreeing or agreeing with him.  He has no actual plan.  For the sake of argument, even if I disagree with someone completely on a certain issue, at least I know what their position is.

 

I don't know what he wants to achieve because I don't think he actually knows either.  He just wants to be the "best"—whatever that means.

 

Trump about economy 25 years ago.

Trump about tariffs, trade imbalance, making other nations pay for US military protection, education,

Trump on foreign policy

 

 

Trump wants to:

 

-Close the border by building a wall so it would be much more difficult for illegals to come in and make Mexico pay for that wall (if not cut off all the foreign Aid to Mexico and impose tariffs on all products made from Mexico)

-Deport illegal immigrants out of U.S. as it is costing the U.S. billions of dollars from wellfare and making it much harder for legal American Citizen worker to compete in entry level jobs.

-Stop Muslims from entering the country temporarily unit they can be properly vetted.

-Reform immigration by selecting applicants of what they can contribute through merit.

-Stop the companies (like Carrier, Ford, Nabisco, etc...) from leaving the U.S. by making it hard for those companies to leave or sell their products back to the U.S. by imposing tariffs or closing loop holes.

-Impose trade sanctions (tariffs) for nations (like China and Japan) that do currency manipulations until they behave.

-Abolish NAFTA and TPP trade agreements which is responsible for manufacturing jobs leaving the country.

-Bring back the manufacturing jobs in the US by lowering corporate tax and loosening up regulations so companies can start business much more easily.

-Make countries (such as Japan, South Korea, etc...) pay for US military protection (military personnel, ballistic missile defense, air force, etc...) or US should leave them all together.

-Renegotiate UN to be more up to date to tackle contemporary threats (terrorism) and make each member pay their fair share.

-Remove Obamacare as it is virtually impossible for small business to afford to hire employees due to high cost of benefits associated with hiring employees due to Obama care.

-Remove common core as it is costing tax payers billions of dollars while it also lowered the education standard by average student then let each state decide on how they want to run their education system

-Lower the tax for the middle class and make the super complicated tax system much simpler.

-Take care of veterans by making it much more easier for veterans to get health care assistance by allowing them to pick which hospital institution (private or public) they want and they government will pay for the medical costs.

-Remove the artificial lines for health insurance companies across the nation so monopolies will be abolished and encourage competition thus raising the quality and lowering the prices.

-Promote energy independence by not relying on Saudi Arabian Oil and others and promote domestic resources such as Nuclear Energy, Solar energy, Coal, Fracking, etc... making the US energy independent

-Fix corruption in the government by having proper management. ("million dollar soccer field", "special interest lobbyist", etc...).

-Build up the US military by investing heavily into it and by having the latest technology available.

-Not get involved in conflicts like Iraq, Libya, etc...

-Put proper real tough negotiators so the US won't be stuck with bad deals like hostages, Iran Nuclear deal, Bergdahl, etc...

[MrDynamicMan]

@rcarlos243

Huh. All I see are constitutional breaches and breaches of human rights, along with ruining the lives of refugees who fled a war zone for their lives, strongarming multiple countries to pay for US exspences, blatant xenophobia, And racism.

 

He talks about better healthcare for veterans along with military buffs and other very large expenses... But where the fuck would the money come from? He'd reduce taxes.

 

My favourite part is still the 'getting rid of corruption in government with proper management'.

And what exactly the fuck would "Proper Management" be?

 

Another bullshit politician with unfulfillable promises. The only difference is that this one is a blatant racist xenophobe who can't understand that you need money to be able to spend money.

[stconquest]

4 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said:

@rcarlos243

Huh. All I see are constitutional breaches and breaches of human rights, along with ruining the lives of refugees who fled a war zone for their lives, strongarming multiple countries to pay for US exspences, blatant xenophobia, And racism.

 

He talks about better healthcare for veterans along with military buffs and other very large expenses... But where the fuck would the money come from? He'd reduce taxes.

 

My favourite part is still the 'getting rid of corruption in government with proper management'.

And what exactly the fuck would "Proper Management" be?

 

Another bullshit politician with unfulfillable promises. The only difference is that this one is a blatant racist xenophobe who can't understand that you need money to be able to spend money.

I can't.  I have been going through his post for like 30 minutes now.   I won't even start.