Dual Xeons - worth or not?

[srmarkovic]

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Do you need them? Given the motherboard can handle them, if for a good price, sure!

[srmarkovic]

Phantex Enthoo Pro 122€ (including shipping - 12€!!!)
2xE5-2670 118€
2x cooler LC-CC-120 49€
Motherboard 216€ (including shipping and PCIe SAS/SATA 8i Intel raid)


Still waiting courier with
64GB 1333 ECC DDR3 98€
PCIe USB 3.0 13€

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It should look like this (this is pic from Phantex site) but I covered all unnecessary holes with copper-pertinax panels coated with black plastic. I want to make wind tunnel from bottom front 20cm fan through coolers to 2x 14cm top and 14cm rear fan. I am waiting courier to bring me 64GB ecc 1333 DDR3 and PCIe-USB3.0. Probably during next week. Still don't know what GPU to use with this old used processors.

 

One successful build is My dual E5-2670 Home server build.

[srmarkovic]

Motherboard is S2600COEIOC.

 

[arnavvr]

I can tell you right now dual Xeons are NOT worth it, I have one, just for the cool factor. Buy a better single cpu.

[srmarkovic]

2 minutes ago, arnavvr said:

I can tell you right now dual Xeons are NOT worth it, I have one, just for the cool factor. Buy a better single cpu.

Well I am software and net engineer in PE. There are a lot of mighty servers in firm I work for and I wanted something like this. I'll do benchmarks and YT when I finish my build.

[suchamoneypit]

1 hour ago, arnavvr said:

I can tell you right now dual Xeons are NOT worth it, I have one, just for the cool factor. Buy a better single cpu.

what single CPU competes with a dual e5-2670 server and costs the same combined cost of $120-150? You can't even come close in performance.

[arnavvr]

3 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

what single CPU competes with a dual e5-2670 server and costs the same combined cost of $120-150? You can't even come close in performance.

Yes,  it offers good performance,  like I said I own a dual CPU board (EVGA SR-2),  but most applications are not optimized for dual cpu and 50% of your system will just be sitting there not doing anything. Also the motherboards are $500, that is a pretty big factor. 

[suchamoneypit]

4 minutes ago, arnavvr said:

Yes,  it offers good performance,  like I said I own a dual CPU board (EVGA SR-2),  but most applications are not optimized for dual cpu and 50% of your system will just be sitting there not doing anything. Also the motherboards are $500, that is a pretty big factor. 

most people making a dual xeon PC aren't using it just for gaming though, they usually are building it for specific uses, especially things such as video editing, CADD. simulations. ect.

[srmarkovic]

6 hours ago, arnavvr said:

Yes,  it offers good performance,  like I said I own a dual CPU board (EVGA SR-2),  but most applications are not optimized for dual cpu and 50% of your system will just be sitting there not doing anything. Also the motherboards are $500, that is a pretty big factor. 

New Intel  S2600COEIOC boards with 2y warranty are 218€. Have to buy one for my godfather who is an architect so I called shop and ask if they could give discount but no discount at all. Well it is not cheap and I have to add usb3.0 and sound but you have two sockets, two power units on board and I understand why dual socket boards are not cheap. And there is PCIe  RAID Module RMS25KB080 card in the box and it is not so cheap.

[ManOfGold93]

That is a very sexy motherboard! If youre planning on doing the sort of work that requires two Xeons then go for it, especially because it looks badass

[srmarkovic]

38 minutes ago, ManOfGold93 said:

That is a very sexy motherboard! If youre planning on doing the sort of work that requires two Xeons then go for it, especially because it looks badass

Well pictures on beginning of this topic present this Intel MB in Phanteks case with two CPUs and coolers. I am waiting for memory when I will continue this topic, put more pictures, make video, benchmarks and comparison of results with benchmark results of computers I have.

[srmarkovic]

Till now here is test which shows that 2xe5-2670 is a bad idea

https://youtu.be/L2Kr_yjQiDU

[srmarkovic]

I still don't have graphics card. Does anyone have advice or suggestion?

[suchamoneypit]

7 hours ago, srmarkovic said:

I still don't have graphics card. Does anyone have advice or suggestion?

if your looking for something new, and good performance thats inexpensive, pick up a 480 in 4 days when it comes out. The ones coming out are all blower heatsink design so it won't throw a lot of heat if any at your xeons.

 

What OS are you going to be running on it?

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I will order 480 tomorrow or during next week. Still thinking about OS. 

[srmarkovic]

I got 8x8GB Hynix RAM. RAM costed me 95€ but it is beautiful, original package with heatsinks. I started PC without additional GPU and sound. I updated bios, firmware, FRU, SDU and all of that. Now I have very quiet fans. I stress tested CPUs with prime95 and Aida but the higher CPU temperature was 62 degree Celsius after an hour. CPU-z benchmark is 19786  (12156 for i7-5960x). Cinebench score is 2004. I will put more pics soon. I will make yt video about all components and system with benchmarks but I will do it when I put GPU. I am thinking to wait gtx 1060 which will be released for a few weeks. 

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On 6/24/2016 at 1:42 AM, arnavvr said:

I can tell you right now dual Xeons are NOT worth it, I have one, just for the cool factor. Buy a better single cpu.

I am using this dual Xeon for 3 days (with onboard graphic because I am waiting for gtx 1060), and you are right. Somehow i7 with 16GB is much better for everyday usage. I have to give one pc to my son who has old PC. I'll probably keep my i7. I'll put gtx in i7 PC and hd6870 from that pc I'll use with Xeons.

 

About cool factor.... I made small board with ATMega328 micro-controller and 3 MOSFETs, put some code in it, connect it on MB internal serial port, connect 3 RGB light stripes, put it in case and my Xeons are lighting in all colors with different effects. I'll put a video soon.

 

Anyway this computer will be one of more than 60 devices in my local network.

 

[srmarkovic]

Still with plastic protection.

 

[srmarkovic]

Blu ray writer drive is ugly but I back up videos on BR and I need it.

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What color to use for hearth-bit effect?

 

 

 

My i7 connected to 42" TV could be seen beside. 

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I'll make better pictures during a day and without protective plastic, I dont want to scratch window because I still have a few things to do on this PC.  

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Components for RGB controller and RGB strips cost me about 4€ and I can make any color and effect (I put white strobe effect during post) I imagine. I don't know what to do with internal serial port because I don't have bracket for COM port and that's why I made this RGB controller - to connect internal serial to something.