AMD working on 7nm 48 core processor - Codename Starship

[P3rform3r]

Apparently AMD is working on a 7nm processor with 48 cores and 96 threads for servers. Codename Starship It's also stated that a consumer model with fewer cores is planned.

Crazy thing is: AMD wants to release those beasts as soon as 2018. Even though it's just a concept yet. Good luck with that.

 

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Fudzilla warned you that AMD's 32core / 64 tread X86 processor codenamed Naples is coming in 2017 to a server near you, but it looks like AMD has a 7nm product called Starship which will arrive soon afterwards. 

Naples, named after a city famous for its bottlenecks and drivers that explode for no apparent reason, uses 14nm FinFET and has 32 cores and 64 thread processors.  After AMD has got that out of the way, it is not going to 10nm, but will go for 7nm. This is quite an aggressive roadmap. The 7nm flavour will be codenamed Starship, presumably after the 1980s band which had a rather hopeful hit "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now"

 

 

 

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[BbsMentos]

7nm seems very low, doesn't silicon mess up below 10nm ?

[Sauron]

Nice!

3 minutes ago, BbsMentos said:

7nm seems very low, doesn't silicon mess up below 10nm ?

apparently not so much that they can't make a cpu out of it

[don_svetlio]

5 minutes ago, BbsMentos said:

7nm seems very low, doesn't silicon mess up below 10nm ?

7nm is the smallest possible. At 6nm it's not possible.

[TheRandomness]

48 core... 96 threads please?

[Citadelen]

7nm is the minimum we can make chips out of when only using Silicone I believe. Past that Quantum Tunneling messes up where the electrons go. Though that's not the only obstacle.

[TheRandomness]

11 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

7nm is the minimum we can make chips out of when only using Silicone I believe. Past that Quantum Tunneling messes up where the electrons go. Though that's not the only obstacle.

1366 posts.... I just wanted to point that out c: (1567 next, then 2011, then 3647 c:)

13 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

48 core... 96 threads please?

Oh an 8 core for cheap pls. Also, AMD FOCUS ON ZEN FOR THE TIME BEING KTHXBAI

[Murasaki]

What first came to mind.

[Djole123]

I can already see the title: "Starship AMD Opteron (insert name here) vs Skylake-E Xeon E5 2699 V5-which one will perform better?"

[Bouzoo]

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This server chip will have 48 cores and 96 thread support. There will be versions with fewer cores that will make it into mainstream servers and desktop computers.

This sounds so nice, with fewer cores, when in reality they'll strip like 20 cores, and you'll still have more than 20.

[DXMember]

good for them

[deviant88]

fake rumour, no one has mass production 7nm process yet and probably no one will by 2020 earliest, the next node for 2018 is probably 10nm which will last past 2020

[VerticalDiscussions]

6 minutes ago, deviant88 said:

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Lets hope your wrong :D, i want innovation to come faster!

[rattacko123]

29 minutes ago, deviant88 said:

fake rumour, no one has mass production 7nm process yet and probably no one will by 2020 earliest, the next node for 2018 is probably 10nm which will last past 2020

well Global Foundaries did acquire IBM's process techology, and IBM has acheived 7nm of some sorts (no where near good enough for big CPUs and GPUs), so having mass production by 2018 isn't too far fetched if they actually get it working for big chips

[porina]

I'm wondering if this will be closely Zen based, or if they're doing something different for server use cases where multi-threads trump any single thread performance. Basically I'm wondering if they're doing more than taking zen, shrinking it and cramming more into the space. I would think they have to.

[Lotte]

It could just be the successor to Zen+, but honestly, even if this were true. It's too far fetched to be all that possible, I mean it's still possible, but extremely unlikely. Especially for 2018 or early 2019.

[Coaxialgamer]

What i don't get is that since AMD is fabless , why are they designing a 7nm chip ? And last time i checked , no fabs will have 7nm ready by 2018 ...

[The Realist]

3 hours ago, P3rform3r said:

Apparently AMD is working on a 7nm processor with 48 cores and 96 threads for servers. Codename Starship It's also stated that a consumer model with fewer cores is planned.

Crazy thing is: AMD wants to release those beasts as soon as 2018. Even though it's just a concept yet. Good luck with that.

 

 

 

 

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If amd goes by there standards it will have 48 cores but does cores are gonna be powerful as a potato - same with the FX series more cores , less single core performance + if it a standard AMD CPU it will probably be mistaken for Nuclear Fusion because of all that Heat...

[Stefan1024]

They can design a good CPU, but nobody can manufacture it by 2018

 

[patrickjp93]

3 hours ago, BbsMentos said:

7nm seems very low, doesn't silicon mess up below 10nm ?

 

3 hours ago, Sauron said:

Nice!

apparently not so much that they can't make a cpu out of it

 

3 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

7nm is the smallest possible. At 6nm it's not possible.

 

10 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

They can design a good CPU, but nobody can manufacture it by 2018

 

Don't forget what the other foundries are calling 7nm isn't really 7nm. Further, let's just see what trouble the other foundries run into at true 10nm (what they call their 7nm) with EUVL that still isn't ready for mass production. I see lots of bravado, but no evidence either TSMC, Samsung, or GloFo is anywhere close to making it a success.

[patrickjp93]

1 hour ago, rattacko123 said:

well Global Foundaries did acquire IBM's process techology, and IBM has acheived 7nm of some sorts (no where near good enough for big CPUs and GPUs), so having mass production by 2018 isn't too far fetched if they actually get it working for big chips

That was for a 4-core, RISC-based CPU using quad-level patterning and EUVL. Economically it would hurt even Intel severely. There's no way Abu Dhabi would allow GloFo to be that stupid.

[Thony]

1 hour ago, deviant88 said:

fake rumour, no one has mass production 7nm process yet and probably no one will by 2020 earliest, the next node for 2018 is probably 10nm which will last past 2020

Ok, can u tell me the weather for 2020 please?

[ADM-Ntek]

starship eh i wonder if there will be an enterprise edition .

[Master Disaster]

5 hours ago, Citadelen said:

7nm is the minimum we can make chips out of when only using Silicone I believe. Past that Quantum Tunneling messes up where the electrons go. Though that's not the only obstacle.

But can't they mix something else into it and use the compound to go even smaller? 

[patrickjp93]

4 hours ago, Thony said:

Ok, can u tell me the weather for 2020 please?

If by weather you mean the outlooks of the silicon industry, yes, we can, because ASML's roadmap is not looking good for EUVL until mid-2018 anyway, hence Intel not relying on it for 10nm.