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AMD's FX-9800P (Excavator) APU edges out the Core i7 in laptop benchmarks

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As we all know, Zen is soon coming out and promises some good performance. So, AMD put two mobile CPU's (FX 9800P and i7 6500U) to the test, and, suprisingly, the FX APU edged out the i7 in Dota 2 by around 5-10 FPS. Amazing!

 

Here's one screenshot from a random moment:

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If this is true, AMD could easily have a lead in laptop market.

 

Note that these are both APU's with no dedicated graphics.

 

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But how much power and heat are consumed/produced by each?  In a laptop chip, that is a very legitimate and important question.

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that's not Zen

and AMDs APU solutions have been superior for quite some time

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1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

But how much power and heat are consumed/produced by each?  In a laptop chip, that is a very legitimate and important question.

Both chips consume 15W.

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2 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

Both chips consume 15W.

Is that actual test data or just what they say on the spec sheet?

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3 minutes ago, DXMember said:

that's not Zen

and AMDs APU solutions have been superior for quite some time

no they haven't been.

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wow. because one random moment is enough to represent performance... 

 

just wait for REAL benchmarks. 

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1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Is that actual test data or just what they say on the spec sheet?

Spec sheet, but that may vary when and if they turbo boost.

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1 minute ago, ZetZet said:

no they haven't been.

I believe they have with the very exception of Iris Pro graphics which uses EDRAM which is like cheating or something...

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thats actualy rly bad.... it should run better but I guess they need to lower the heat somehow...

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1 minute ago, Darel321 said:

thats actualy rly bad.... it should run better but I guess they need to lower the heat somehow...

it's a 15W CPU/GPU combo, what'd you expect?

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1 minute ago, DXMember said:

I believe they have with the very exception of Iris Pro graphics which uses EDRAM which is like cheating or something...

exactly. Ever since Iris Pro AMD was left behind. Just because this graphics oriented chip beats Intel's CPU oriented chip doesn't mean much. 

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2 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

exactly. Ever since Iris Pro AMD was left behind. Just because this graphics oriented chip beats Intel's CPU oriented chip doesn't mean much. 

oh you wait for the Zen APU with onboard HBM then...

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Just now, DXMember said:

oh you wait for the Zen APU with onboard HBM then...

#IAMZEN

Zen could easily do it. This isn't Zen, we haven't seen what Zen can do.

 

 

We haven't seen what Intel will respond to Zen with either. 

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3 hours ago, Djole123 said:

FX APU edged out the i7 in Dota 2 by around 5-10 FPS. Amazing

you're shitting me :/

 

Radeon Group with a history in dGPUs for 3 decades, edges out a company that has little to no history in discrete graphics

and we're talking 30-40FPS

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6 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

I have edited the title. This CPU is not Zen.

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They are comparing it against an ULV i7.

Come on AMD, I doubt the Excavator APU would compete with an ULV chip in terms of power draw. The i7 in question has  TDP of 15W (7.5-25).

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2 minutes ago, Nineshadow said:

They are comparing it against an ULV i7.

Come on AMD, I doubt the Excavator APU would compete with an ULV chip in terms of power draw. The i7 in question has  TDP of 15W (7.5-25).

it probably can compete in power draw. performance though...

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2 minutes ago, Nineshadow said:

They are comparing it against an ULV i7.

Come on AMD, I doubt the Excavator APU would compete with an ULV chip in terms of power draw. The i7 in question has  TDP of 15W (7.5-25).

This FX-9800P also draws 15W. You played yourself.

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Just now, DeadEyePsycho said:

This FX-9800P also draws 15W. You played yourself.

Oh, then it's ok. I didn't know. It makes sense now.

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3 minutes ago, Nineshadow said:

They are comparing it against an ULV i7.

Come on AMD, I doubt the Excavator APU would compete with an ULV chip in terms of power draw. The i7 in question has  TDP of 15W (7.5-25).

 

I said they both consume 15W

22 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

Both chips consume 15W.

 

Athlon X2 for only 27.31$   Best part lists at different price points   Windows 1.01 running natively on an Eee PC

My rig:

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Celeronator (new main rig)

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RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz

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GPU: Intel HD Graphics 3000 Series

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RAM: 1GB DDR3-800

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15 minutes ago, zMeul said:

you're shitting me :/

 

Radeon Group with a history in dGPUs for 3 decades, edges out a company that has little to no history in discrete graphics

and we're talking 30-40FPS

 

as @Darel321 said, pathetic

well it's not pathetic.. I said that because I know it can run much better.. but sadly it would melt the laptop xD.. intel its pathetic... they got millions more to spend on their cpu gpu etc... and still amd with their shity apu beat them xD

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