Same GPU, Upgraded System - Crazy Lag

[Podgy]

Hello everyone, 

 

I previous made a thread over at Tom's Hardware and I'm none the wiser. You can find the thread and the steps I've covered to try and solve my issue: 

 

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3071767/system-graphics-card-lag.html#18031392

 

I was originally running a 670 2GB, i7 3770k and 8GB DDR3 RAM. 

 

Just today, I upgraded to an i7 6700K and 16GB DDR4 RAM. This is prep for a GTX 1080. I am still running my original 670 at the moment. And still running my original Win10 64bit OS on an SSD which has been transferred over to my new system. And I've just performed a clean Nvidia driver install, still no difference. 

 

I am now completely for some reason unable to run games whatsoever. I was getting 45-70 FPS on Overwatch in max settings which is now down to unplayable frames. Same goes for Tomb Raider released in 2014, 40 - 70 FPS down to completely unplayable. It only seems to lag like this when the GPU is under stress, alt+tabbing out of games at this point causes Windows to freeze too.

 

I've tried new drivers for both my GPU and Board, scanned for viruses/malware and even bitcoin GPU hijacker programs. I'm at a loss. 

 

I think it must be some form of software issue? As if I was running Overwatch on all max settings with the same 670, i7 3770K and 8GB DDR3 RAM. Then surely I can run it with the same 670, i7 6770K and 16GB DDR4 3200MHz  

 

No idea what's up here, anyone else? 

 

Any comments are appreciated.

[Narigaur]

Your CPU is out of the question. Upgrade your GPU.

[Podgy]

1 minute ago, Narigaur said:

Your CPU is out of the question. Upgrade your GPU.

I'm upgrading to a GTX 1080.

 

It can't surely be a compatibility issue. I'm running a completely new system bar the GPU and getting unplayable frames. 

[Narigaur]

Turn down the settings, then.

[Podgy]

2 minutes ago, Narigaur said:

Turn down the settings, then.

Same result. Windowed mode and the lowest settings achieve 20 and below FPS. When originally with a lesser system, and the same GPU I was running Overwatch at 60 FPS on all maxed settings.

[paddy-stone]

Sounds like it may be using the iGPU instead of the discrete GPU, check the BIOS to see which is set there, also check for BIOS update for mobo... and if that is already set there, maybe try a different driver version for the GPU.

[ThinkWithPortals]

5 minutes ago, Podgy said:

Same result. Windowed mode and the lowest settings achieve 20 and below FPS. When originally with a lesser system, and the same GPU I was running Overwatch at 60 FPS on all maxed settings.

What driver version were you using before and what one are you using now?

[Podgy]

1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

Sounds like it may be using the iGPU instead of the discrete GPU, check the BIOS to see which is set there, also check for BIOS update for mobo... and if that is already set there, maybe try a different driver version for the GPU.

That's actually a really good shout. I'll check.

 

Thanks.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Podgy said:

Same result. Windowed mode and the lowest settings achieve 20 and below FPS. When originally with a lesser system, and the same GPU I was running Overwatch at 60 FPS on all maxed settings.

In power management did you set the performance to high performance? 

[19_blackie_73]

8 minutes ago, Podgy said:

Same result. Windowed mode and the lowest settings achieve 20 and below FPS. When originally with a lesser system, and the same GPU I was running Overwatch at 60 FPS on all maxed settings.

maybe windows messed up? did you reinstall the os?

[Podgy]

1 minute ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

What driver version were you using before and what one are you using now?

I was using 365.19 which carrid over to the new install and was still creating the lag.

 

I then updated to 368.22, still persisted.  

[Podgy]

4 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

maybe windows messed up? did you reinstall the os?

Same OS, just relocated the SSD to my new build.

[Podgy]

5 minutes ago, Ronnie76 said:

In power management did you set the performance to high performance? 

I've activated that, no difference.

[Tenshi017]

1 minute ago, Podgy said:

I've activated that, no difference.

How did the suggestion by paddy go? Did you check the bios? 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Podgy said:

I've activated that, no difference.

Hmm, check task manager and make sure that your CPU is running normally, and then check MSI Afterburner or EVGA PrecisionX and make sure your GPU is running at its full potential, also make sure your GPU doesn't have any dust or dirt in it since it is quite old 

[paddy-stone]

1 hour ago, Podgy said:

Same OS, just relocated the SSD to my new build.

Actually I thinm you may have to do a "refresh" of windows... relocating your drive from your old system may have caused problems as your old system had it's own chipset drivers etc and the new system needs the correct ones. I'd try refreshing windows so that it takes everything off except windows itself, then install drivers etc it needs.

[Podgy]

Just checked the BIOS, I'm definitely using my 670.

6 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Actually I thinm you may have to do a "refresh" of windows... relocating your drive from your old system may have caused problems as your old system had it's own chipset drivers etc and the new system needs the correct ones. I'd try refreshing windows so that it takes everything off except windows itself, then install drivers etc it needs.

And that actually doesn't surprise me too much. In terms of doing that on Win10, is there an easy way? Or do I have to create a bootable USB like the old days?

[Podgy]

7 minutes ago, Ronnie76 said:

Hmm, check task manager and make sure that your CPU is running normally, and then check MSI Afterburner or EVGA PrecisionX and make sure your GPU is running at its full potential, also make sure your GPU doesn't have any dust or dirt in it since it is quite old 

This is after 5 minutes of enduring 5FPS in Overwatch.. Haha:

 

https://gyazo.com/1ed1434aaad61aa74da633efaafa9c25

 

I cleaned the GPU before installation into the new system.

[ThinkWithPortals]

1 minute ago, Podgy said:

Just checked the BIOS, I'm definitely using my 670.

And that actually doesn't surprise me too much. I terms of doing that on Win10, is there an easy way? Or do I have to create a bootable USB like the old days?

I believe there should be an option within windows for refreshing it, keeps files and stuff but resets drivers and things. Try that.

If that fails, try a full reinstall from a bootable USB.

[paddy-stone]

Just go into System>update and security>recovery and go to [reset this PC]

[Podgy]

Ah, that makes life a little easier.

 

I'll report back once that's complete and I've installed chipset drivers/gpu drivers etc.

 

Thanks for your time.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Podgy said:

This is after 5 minutes of enduring 5FPS in Overwatch.. Haha:

 

https://gyazo.com/1ed1434aaad61aa74da633efaafa9c25

It looks like the problem is resulting in your CPU, I'm sure you can see its only using aboutt 8% CPU usage where your GPU is maxed out. Just make sure this is enabled.

[Podgy]

Back,

 

I performed a reset, reinstalled chipset drivers from:

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-M5.html#down-driver&Win1064

 

Installed Nvidia GeForce Experience and updated the driver to:  368.22

 

Ensured performance was set to 'High Performance'.

 

Still the same crazy lag. Interesting.

[Podgy]

1 hour ago, Ronnie76 said:

It looks like the problem is resulting in your CPU, I'm sure you can see its only using aboutt 8% CPU usage where your GPU is maxed out. Just make sure this is enabled.

I did notice that, however the overall usage is 33%. And there wasn't all that much going on in the game.

[ace_cheaply]

I had the same thing happen to me.  I ended up just buying a $30 oem windows 10 key from Kinguine.com and doing a fresh install.  I'm pretty sure windows is locked by motherboard.