AMD Zen processors to have "double the performance of the FX 8350", performance pictures posted

[Belgarathian]

On 5/24/2016 at 1:35 AM, don_svetlio said:

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

Don't even care if they call short of the 5960X - If they're even close, it's still a long way ahead of the 4890k (raw performance). That said, if they want $1,000 for it... Then I'm good, thanks. 

[Mira Yurizaki]

Even if AMD manages to pull off a huge leap in performance, this is the only time they'll get to do it.

 

I don't think Intel's been resting on their laurels because AMD hasn't been delivering, but I believe it's because it's getting really hard to increase performance drastically like it has been in the past. Not to mention Intel supposedly has a design rule: no more than 1% power consumption for every 2% improvement in performance. Considering efficiency's been their MO for a while, you can only improve algorithms so much before they become stupidly hard to improve, and that more and more tasks are being optimized for lower performance parts, I can't see AMD or Intel making a part that gets a huge jump in performance again unless both throw efficiency out the window. And even then, again, it's not like it's going to make your daily drivers perform uber faster when they already perform uber fast.

 

tl;dr, assuming all this is true and all, welcome back to the high-end AMD. Good luck to both you and Intel in getting another leap in performance for the next generation.

 

However I am willing to accept that Intel is being lazy if the next generation hits big, but I'd like to see what kind of magic sauce they were hiding all this time.

[Tomsen]

23 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Double the performance of an 8150 would make it more than 20% faster than the 6700K. I do find that hard to believe considering AMD's track record. 

 

But I did look up the Broadwell-e benchmarks again and the six core version is getting a Cinebench score of 1311. I guess it isn't unreasonable that AMD could make an 8 core that has 80% of the performance of Intel's 6 cores.

First of all; The slide is kinda vague, no clockspeed or specific SKU is mentioned. Also, it might be a performance-per-watt measurement (goes hand-in-hand with kaveri -> bristol comparison made in the same slide), so it might not even have anything to do with total performance.

I would be surprised if AMD 8c zen wouldn't be able to pull further ahead than 20% over Intels 4c in a highly synthetic multi-threaded benchmark.

[Citadelen]

Like I said earlier @patrickjp93, these stocks really aren't going anywhere.

Such a flat stock.

 

[Curufinwe_wins]

On 5/24/2016 at 8:35 AM, don_svetlio said:

I was expecting 4790K performance but 5960X? hard to believe honestly

In fairness, it's moving from a 4 module, 8t design to a 8c 16t SMT design... It damn well better preform AT LEAST twice as well...

 

 

[porina]

26 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

In fairness, it's moving from a 4 module, 8t design to a 8c 16t SMT design... It damn well better preform AT LEAST twice as well...

In FPU terms, for sure. For integer workloads, I'm less sure. Based on Intel HT, I'm not expecting SMT to provide that big a boost and the old 8T at least had full fat integer units.

[Curufinwe_wins]

11 minutes ago, porina said:

In FPU terms, for sure. For integer workloads, I'm less sure. Based on Intel HT, I'm not expecting SMT to provide that big a boost and the old 8T at least had full fat integer units.

30% at least over even a regular 8c design...

 

Again it DAMN WELL do at least 2x the 8350.

[Energycore]

Some people don't believe the 2X performance that is "like 5960X", but it makes sense if you look at the rumors we've heard.

 

- 40% IPC improvements put it about on par with Haswell in per-core performance, the 5960X is on the Haswell microarchitecture

- It's 8 hyper-threaded cores (with 8 FPUs this time around), which is on-par with 5960X

 

That also makes sense about 2x 8350. The 8-core bulldozers only had 4 FPUs and that hurt performance. This time around, it's 8 full cores and 16 logical cores.

I wanna look at clockspeeds though.

[DevilishBooster]

I'm going to reserve my excitement for once they are released and the actual benchmarks are posted by reviewers, but if it ends up true, I will absolutely lose my shit from the excitement. I want to see another epic battle between Intel and AMD.

[Nena Trinity]

From this die picture I suspect the CPU will be rectangular!

Also I heard it will use pins so making it wider for more pins makes sense?

[IGJoe2192]

All this yelling and I just want my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ back 

[iBabySlapper]

So buying AMD for all these years and supporting them has been worth it huh.

Woohoo!