vr ReVive developers bypass Oculus DRM entirely

[GeekPower0]

Just days after Oculus implemented their new DRM, the Revive developers have found a way around it. The new version disables the games' ownership check functionality, which has the side effect of enabling piracy.

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Revive originally let owners of an HTC Vive enjoy Oculus-only titles by mimicking elements of the Rift's internal functionality in a Vive-friendly format, but the game-ownership checks remained. One of Revive's developers told Motherboard that the updated Revive cuts out the ownership checks completely. It's not their intention to circumvent the DRM completely. The developers claim they just want a tools that lets them use software they own on hardware they own. If the Revive team finds a way to offer their intended functionality without bypassing DRM, they will implement it.

Source: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/oculus-new-drm-just-made-pirating-games-way-easier

Via: http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/23/oculus-drm-vr-piracy/

[M4st4M1nd]

This is hilarious. As a result of them trying to lock down the platform so much people have cracked it and allowed piracy xD.

People should be allowed to do what they want with their own hardware and games.

[CommandMan7]

Good job Oculus, you've made the situation worse while also getting tons of bad press while doing it. 

 

Also from the source:

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Oculus was quick to call it a hack, and said that players shouldn't expect it to continue working as it updates its software.

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Libre VR told Motherboard that it took him less than 24 hours to get around it.

 

So the DRM war begins. So Oculus plans to prolong the bad press, as well as constantly frustrating their users as the games begin to work, then break, then work again. If they were smart they'd revert back to the old system and forget this ever happened.  

[werto165]

Some of the prices for the games are a little crazy and with the lack of refunds and lack of demos I imagine lots of people would result to piracy. The climb for example is £40, no way in hell do I think k it's worth that. £20-25 maybe but not that. I understand that making a VR game is certainly a risk and the market is quite small for it but still. Me wants cheap games, haven't paid that much for a game since I was on console. Last game I payed close to that was fallout 4 and that has much more game. 

[CTR640]

GG, OC*ckus, GG. People buying your overpriced shit and you fuck them over...

[PlayStation 2]

If there's a way to fuck something up that you didn't even need to mess with, Facebook is damn well at executing that.

[Energycore]

#rekt

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, werto165 said:

Some of the prices for the games are a little crazy

While that's entirely true, it's a necessity with how tiny the VR market is at this point. Even if it was 1% the size of the total PC market (it's actually less), that still means prices would have to be 100 times as high given identical budgets and attach rates. As is, they're going with much lower budgets, high prices, and hoping for high attach rates because there isn't a huge pile of VR content yet.

 

As VR adoption increases, content should get considerably better and/or cheaper.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

While that's entirely true, it's a necessity with how tiny the VR market is at this point. Even if it was 1% the size of the total PC market (it's actually less), that still means prices would have to be 100 times as high given identical budgets and attach rates. As is, they're going with much lower budgets, high prices, and hoping for high attach rates because there isn't a huge pile of VR content yet.

 

As VR adoption increases, content should get considerably better and/or cheaper.

It's the early adopter tax at it again.

[jaggysnake57]

this is the kind of bullshit that would see me buying the vive over the rift

 

[LAwLz]

Good. Fuck Oculus for trying to arbitrarily lock down software to hardware. DRM in general should just die out. It does nothing but harm users. 

[Keudn]

I had an Oculus order but when it said it wasn't coming until August and with this press lately I canceled and bought a Vive. It comes tommorow, which is a hell of a lot better than August

[Briggsy]

I've had a DK2 for a long while and still enjoying it, but if I go for a retail HMD in the future its probably going to be Vive, despite a higher cost.

[Humbug]

part of the problem here I believe is that facebook is not used to dealing with the PC gaming community. They don't understand the PC enthusiast community or what is normal and what is frowned upon. You have two HMDs which are very similar, run on the same OS and both have their SDKs publicly documented. In this environment of course modders are gonna make games work, if you try to fight them you will probably just drive yourself crazy.

 

[escape093]

Shall we get #Cockulus trending?

[Sakkura]

3 hours ago, Briggsy said:

I've had a DK2 for a long while and still enjoying it, but if I go for a retail HMD in the future its probably going to be Vive, despite a higher cost.

If you factor in the likely cost of Touch for the Rift, the Vive probably isn't more expensive anyway. At least with the exception of places where shipping costs murder the Vive pricing...

2 hours ago, Humbug said:

part of the problem here I believe is that facebook is not used to dealing with the PC gaming community. They don't understand the PC enthusiast community or what is normal and what is frowned upon. You have two HMDs which are very similar, run on the same OS and both have their SDKs publicly documented. In this environment of course modders are gonna make games work, if you try to fight them you will probably just drive yourself crazy.

They could have asked some of the Oculus people who are definitely very used to dealing with the PC gaming community.

[InsanelySecretD]

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An anti-piracy update for the Oculus virtual reality platform has been cracked within a day of release.

The update lets games verify that they were legitimately purchased and are running on an approved Oculus device.

It also breaks an unofficial patch called Revive that lets Oculus-only games run on rival devices.

 

But Revive's creator found he could disable digital rights management (DRM) in Oculus titles completely to keep the patch working.

That also stops software from verifying it has been legally purchased, paving the way for pirates to copy Oculus games.

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36358517

[suicidalfranco]

in before oculus starts using denuvo drm 

[Bananasplit_00]

Ok then. well honestly what did they expect to happen, if you take someones freedome away there going to do what they can to reclaim it

[ShadowCaptain]

VR is a peripheral, we need open standards for it to work and survive

[Lays]

Just now, ShadowCaptain said:

VR is a peripheral, we need open standards for it to work and survive

If done properly, it doesn't need to have open standards / open source.  It could have a much better experience if it was PROPERLY closed off.  That way things would all be validated to work properly, rather than everybody throwing their name in the hat.

 

[ShadowCaptain]

3 minutes ago, Lays said:

If done properly, it doesn't need to have open standards / open source.  It could have a much better experience if it was PROPERLY closed off.  That way things would all be validated to work properly, rather than everybody throwing their name in the hat.

 

 

Not open source, I meant standardisation

like, Displayport, HDMI, USB C, they are standards, and VR needs a set of standards that mean that any manufacturers VR headset will work on all software

i dont want to have to buy 10 different headsets just to play 10 different games

[Praesi]

When will they learn that DRM is only annoying legit buyers.

[Thony]

23 minutes ago, ShadowCaptain said:

VR is a peripheral, we need open standards for it to work and survive

If their intention is "we want the games designed for Oculus work best they possibly can" then it makes sense to lock it down and avoid negative reviews from people playing the Oculus games on VIVE. 

 

They are VR headsets but I believe their controllers are little different and thats where things could get tricky.

 

IMO games should be designed with VIVE in mind since these are the two best headsets to date.

[ShadowCaptain]

3 minutes ago, Thony said:

SNIP

Yeah I understand that mentality, ie "game best experienced with our hardware"

but its going to be annoying having exclusive titles on PC that require specific hardware to work