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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

I know, but I'm still disappointed that it hits the same temp. 

But my god does it OC.

MHZ doesnt matter. It can hit 10 GHz, but unless clock scaling is good, 10GHz or 0.5GHz, it does not matter.

To me, it seems like Nvidia simply reduced IPC, increased core count and increased clock speed in an effort to compensate for the loss of IPC.

 

But where have we seen such a behaviour before? Where have we seen silicon able to push WAY more MHz with ease?

Oh yes, AMD FX FAMILY.

 

Maxwell hit high MHz, but the amount of Hz you needed to get actual increases in performance was ridiculous.

My GTX 950 needs 80MHz to get 1% more performance.

My R9 295x2 needs 33MHz to get 1% more performance.

 

This means that clock scaling for maxwell is atrocious. Simply because it requires much much much more MHz to produce the same % increase.

 

I bet you that the GTX1080 at 2.5GHz under Water uses closer to 275-300w of power. SImply because more MHz require MORE POWER to stabilize the processor.

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

Or you know, you can read their or Guru3D review which always have more info and are far better than videos. 

 

Don't worry, Luke mentioned that in the review. 

I haven't had a chance to check out all the reviews yet (I'm at work). I'm sure some of them have overclocked and talk about that in more detail, I just didn't know how many did since LTT didn't. ;) 

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This is a hell of a card, 1080 over Titan X actually widened the delta we had in 680 vs 580 at the last node shrink.

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For those complaining about the temps - just make a custom fan curve. Problem solved. ;)

 

Nvidia just set a very conservative default fan curve to keep it quiet as possible. 

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I just want to point out Linus' video showing Fury X beating a 980 Ti xD

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1 minute ago, MEC-777 said:

For those complaining about the temps - just make a custom fan curve. Problem solved. ;)

 

Nvidia just set a very conservative default fan curve to keep it quiet as possible. 

Here is a good question for you:
Why should I, the consumer, pay 699 USD for a fucking piece of computer hardware, and then I have to tinker with it to get it to work properly???
When a consumer gets the box, the contents of said box, regardless if it came from PNY, EVGA, ZOTAC, MSI, ASUS or Nvidia -> should behave properly in ALL scenarios a consumer may subject the card to.

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1 minute ago, Prysin said:

Here is a good question for you:
Why should I, the consumer, pay 699 USD for a fucking piece of computer hardware, and then I have to tinker with it to get it to work properly???
When a consumer gets the box, the contents of said box, regardless if it came from PNY, EVGA, ZOTAC, MSI, ASUS or Nvidia -> should behave properly in ALL scenarios a consumer may subject the card to.

How hot does the 1080 run at stock?

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Welp definitely an improvement over Maxwell in terms of more performance. As expected, it performs faster than the 980 Ti/Titan X. Overclock scaling hasn't improved though, its the same as maxwell.

 

Now to see whether Pascal will have that high idle clock speed issue. And whether or not GPU Boost 3.0 has that stupid fluctuating power draw.  

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1 minute ago, Prysin said:

-something something someting OC- 

My comemnt on OC was because of this:

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For all overclocked games above we have used the very same image quality settings as shown before. Overall, the generic thumb of rule here for a decent tweak and overclock is that performance can gain anywhere from 5 to 20% performance. The end result depends on a lot of variables though, including power limiters, temperature limiters, fill-rate and so on, the performance increment can differ per card, brand, heck... even cooling solution and your chassis airflow.

We'll refrain from making comments on overclocking for now. We know the card can pass 2 GHz on the Boost frequency easily and the memory can reach 11 Gbps effecively. But overclocking at the moment is a mess and requires "specific" drivers and beta overclocking utilities. Once all OC tools are out that work with actual normal drivers we'll be happy to include proper results. 

If a card is getting that "much" boost from messy drivers, I'm sure it'll OC like a beast when everything is in order. If I can get 1% form 15-20 MHz, I say that's a win (even if it's a best case scenario with a reference cooler). 2.5 GHz? We'll see. 

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

How hot does the 1080 run at stock?

80 something

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Damn this card is embarrassing all others. Dammit nVidia, damn you I need one.

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

How hot does the 1080 run at stock?

Same as 980/980Ti.

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1 minute ago, mechknight3 said:

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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

Warmer than I'd prefer. 85*C is the max safe temp after all.

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Warmer than I'd prefer.

Hence my original "complaining about temps" comment.

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2 minutes ago, Prysin said:

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But Jen Hsun himself said that it would run 2.1GHZ at 69c. How can that be? Did... did NVidia LIE? :o

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2 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Hence my original "complaining about temps" comment.

Indeed. Temps on the new cooler seem just as bad as the old one. Definitely underwhelming when paying 700$....

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1 hour ago, IhazHedont said:

So: Solid for 1440P, viable for 4K but nothing extraordinary.

 

 

 

I would say the 980Ti is already solid for 1440p, so the 1080 is.... solider?!

 

I'm impressed by the 4K performance just because it's such a bitch to run, but it's only hitting that magical 60fps or higher in some titles so not quite there yet.

 

Looking forward to the aftermarket coolers, and where the gaming performance goes once all the OCing starts. 1080 seems like it might be that awkward teen 4K card, but with a good OC it should be doing 4K@60hz in most titles. 1080Ti will probably be the first 4K destroyer for Nvidia.

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1 hour ago, don_svetlio said:

20-30% above a Titan X and stock 980 Ti. Definitely not "double the performance" as everyone was expecting

it's still a beast of a card though...

1 hour ago, don_svetlio said:

GPU Boost 2.0 takes the card to 1800 or so.

it's GPU boost 3.0 now :P

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well looks like like just keep my 980ti till next year when big pascal comes so no need to change yet or at all for that matter maybe just purchase a second 980ti

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1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

it's still a beast of a card though...

it's GPU boost 3.0 now :P

It's a solid card but not worth 700$+ in my opinion....

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5 minutes ago, Commander Llama said:

 

I would say the 980Ti is already solid for 1440p, so the 1080 is.... solider?!

 

I'm impressed by the 4K performance just because it's such a bitch to run, but it's only hitting that magical 60fps or higher in some titles so not quite there yet.

 

Looking forward to the aftermarket coolers, and where the gaming performance goes once all the OCing starts. 1080 seems like it might be that awkward teen 4K card, but with a good OC it should be doing 4K@60hz in most titles. 1080Ti will probably be the first 4K destroyer for Nvidia.

why cant people get it that 4k and up you WILL need either the best single card, or TWO high end cards. It was like that for this generation, it will be like that for the next generation.

 

once we move to 5k, 8k, 10k, 16k, doesnt matter. you HAVE to increase the number of GPUs, or the GPUs form factor must radically change.

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1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

It's a solid card but not worth 700$+ in my opinion....

I completely agree, but I do think it's worth the $600 that the non-reference... Er... I mean founder :P will be sold for.

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