NVIDIA Will Unveil Pascal GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 Graphics Cards at a Special Livestream Event May 6 – Cooler Shrouds Confirmed

[Aytex]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I'm pretty sure this has been posted before, no?

 

 

Mine is more focused on that they confirmed the shroud design but

[_Shaho]

I don't see the issue with the shroud, I rather like it. However, I never go with the reference cards as others offer better performance.

[TidaLWaveZ]

9 minutes ago, DevilishBooster said:

Personally I don't mind it that much. I think if you were to pair it with the right case and CPU air cooler it could look pretty sick. What I giggle over is how everyone was complaining about how Nvidia hadn't changed their reference cooler design for a number of years (aside form slight color variations) and then once they finally give the people what they want all everyone does is bitch about their design choice.

 

Yeah the reference shroud is taking a lot of flak when it really doesn't matter. I don't mind the cooler at all, I actually kind of like it. I like how each polygon looks a different color because the light hits it a different way.  I just plan on liquid cooling it as soon as I can, that's why the shrouds coming off.

[Aytex]

1 minute ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

Yeah the reference shroud is taking a lot of flak when it really doesn't matter. I don't mind the cooler at all, I actually kind of like it. I like how each polygon looks a different color because the light hits it a different way.  I just plan on liquid cooling it as soon as I can, that's why the shrouds coming off.

it actually matches with my zenfone 2's deluxe cover

lol

[NumLock21]

Can't wait to learn more about Deep Learning and the art of trolling, from master Huang.

 

[NumLock21]

dp

[VagabondWraith]

So stoked for this!

 

But I'm mainly concerned about if nVidia supports hardware Async Compute now, and if not, their possible deficit compared to AMD's offering.

[TidaLWaveZ]

Just now, VagabondWraith said:

So stoked for this!

 

But I'm mainly concerned about if nVidia supports hardware Async Compute now, and if not, their possible deficit compared to AMD's offering.

 

I'm ecstatic, all I care about is getting the GTX 1080 so I can emulate Super Mario Land and listen to this

 

 

[don_svetlio]

Dat Cooler ._.

[handymanshandle]

I don't think the new cooler design from the leaked images that it was horribly ugly. I just sort of hope for AMD to pull ahead in terms of performance this time around...

(Polaris 10 might beat GP104, none of us have a crystal ball to tell whether AMD will be the winner of this round of GPUs or if Nvidia will be the winner.)

[_Shaho]

10 minutes ago, wcreek said:

I don't think the new cooler design from the leaked images that it was horribly ugly. I just sort of hope for AMD to pull ahead in terms of performance this time around...

(Polaris 10 might beat GP104, none of us have a crystal ball to tell whether AMD will be the winner of this round of GPUs or if Nvidia will be the winner.)

Polaris will be mainstream GPUs, not bleeding edge and high-end, as indicated by AMD themselves. Also, really don't want AMD to pull ahead with their high TDPs and heat output.

[don_svetlio]

6 minutes ago, _Shaho said:

Polaris will be mainstream GPUs, not bleeding edge and high-end, as indicated by AMD themselves. Also, really don't want AMD to pull ahead with their high TDPs and heat output.

Considering that Pascal so far has absurd TDPs and Polaris is showing the same results as Maxwell at half the Power Consumption, I'd say you have it the other way around. Anyhow, VEGA is the competitor to GP104 and GP100 IIRC

[_Shaho]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Considering that Pascal so far has absurd TDPs and Polaris is showing the same results as Maxwell at half the Power Consumption, I'd say you have it the other way around. Anyhow, VEGA is the competitor to GP104 and GP100 IIRC

Everyone roots for the underdog, but AMD always surprises us at the lack of surprise they present. With new Broadwell-E chips releasing and Pascal's leaks only being engineering sample leaks, it's unclear.

 

Furthermore, AMD has lost huge market share this year. If they can't make it back, they'll fall back a lot.

 

We'll have to wait and see.

[don_svetlio]

6 minutes ago, _Shaho said:

Everyone roots for the underdog, but AMD always surprises us at the lack of surprise they present. With new Broadwell-E chips releasing and Pascal's leaks only being engineering sample leaks, it's unclear.

 

Furthermore, AMD has lost huge market share this year. If they can't make it back, they'll fall back a lot.

 

We'll have to wait and see.

Erm, this year alone they gained 2-3% and last year (after 300 launched) they also gained 2% - couple that with them hiring Nvidia's marketting leader for the past 13 years, I'd say they're on the right track.

[handymanshandle]

@_Shaho While I know this table I made isn't that useful or incredibly accurate as my source was wccf tables. I just want to point out that if Cuda cores and SP cores are equivalent the GTX 1070 has the same amount of Cuda cores as the 480X has Stream Processors.

I left out ROPs and TMUs because there would be only TBA/TBD in that row.

I don't think it'll be until Vega that AMD hits the mark against GP104. Though I do think Vega is when AMD will be able to more 

handily beat GP100/Volta. Though Navi is expect around the time Volta should be coming out, unless Volta is slotted for 2017 now?

 

I'm also aware that I am comparing the mid range of the Polaris R9 family to the mid and high end of Pascal. 

 

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, wcreek said:

@_Shaho While I know this table I made isn't that useful or incredibly accurate as my source was wccf tables. I just want to point out that if Cuda cores and SP cores are equivalent the GTX 1070 has the same amount of Cuda cores as the 480X has Stream Processors.

I left out ROPs and TMUs because there would be only TBA/TBD in that row.

I don't think it'll be until Vega that AMD hits the mark against GP104. Though I do think Vega is when AMD will be able to more 

handily beat GP100/Volta. Though Navi is expect around the time Volta should be coming out, unless Volta is slotted for 2017 now?

 

I'm also aware that I am comparing the mid range of the Polaris R9 family to the mid and high end of Pascal. 

 

480X is rumored to be similar to the 970 and the 1070 is supposedly like the 980 so not that much faster. Also, GDDR5X is not available on the 1070 or 480(X)

[byalexandr]

I'm way more excited for BF5 than for Pascal. Fuck Nvidia.

[handymanshandle]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

480X is rumored to be similar to the 970 and the 1070 is supposedly like the 980 so not that much faster. Also, GDDR5X is not available on the 1070 or 480(X)

Well, then I either misread the tables they had, or their tables are wrong. 

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Well, then I either misread the tables they had, or their tables are wrong. 

Their stuff is wrong (#justWCCCFthings)

[Commander Llama]

Oh boy oh boy, Pascal AND BF5 announces in a single day? Gonna be a pre-order tsunami

[handymanshandle]

4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

480X is rumored to be similar to the 970 and the 1070 is supposedly like the 980 so not that much faster. Also, GDDR5X is not available on the 1070 or 480(X)

Also, if that's the case. Then it probably wouldn't be likely that Nvidia will "obliterate" AMD this year, like what it sounds like some Nvidia fanboys(or fangirls) would lead one to believe. Perhaps it'll be a repeat of last year but with die shrinks for both manufacturers.

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Their stuff is wrong (#justWCCCFthings)

Well I just checked the table again at least for the AMD table, and well... Now I understand why people tend to distrust/not like wccf...

[_Shaho]

17 minutes ago, wcreek said:

@_Shaho While I know this table I made isn't that useful or incredibly accurate as my source was wccf tables. I just want to point out that if Cuda cores and SP cores are equivalent the GTX 1070 has the same amount of Cuda cores as the 480X has Stream Processors.

I left out ROPs and TMUs because there would be only TBA/TBD in that row.

I don't think it'll be until Vega that AMD hits the mark against GP104. Though I do think Vega is when AMD will be able to more 

handily beat GP100/Volta. Though Navi is expect around the time Volta should be coming out, unless Volta is slotted for 2017 now?

 

I'm also aware that I am comparing the mid range of the Polaris R9 family to the mid and high end of Pascal. 

 

Thanks for the information.

 

However, AMD's Raja claims that all they're aiming for is bang for buck, as per usual with AMD, so surely imagining and extrapolating beyond what they say they're aiming for is rather dreamy?

[SLAYR]

1 hour ago, wcreek said:

@_Shaho While I know this table I made isn't that useful or incredibly accurate as my source was wccf tables. I just want to point out that if Cuda cores and SP cores are equivalent the GTX 1070 has the same amount of Cuda cores as the 480X has Stream Processors.

I left out ROPs and TMUs because there would be only TBA/TBD in that row.

I don't think it'll be until Vega that AMD hits the mark against GP104. Though I do think Vega is when AMD will be able to more 

handily beat GP100/Volta. Though Navi is expect around the time Volta should be coming out, unless Volta is slotted for 2017 now?

 

I'm also aware that I am comparing the mid range of the Polaris R9 family to the mid and high end of Pascal. 

 

I am not thinking that this table is to accurate, and just guessing because why would amd reduce the memory bus to 256bit from 512bit on the 390x, and the 980ti had a 384 bit bus unless this has something to do with the gddr5x

[handymanshandle]

39 minutes ago, _Shaho said:

However, AMD's Raja claims that all they're aiming for is bang for buck, as per usual with AMD, so surely imagining and extrapolating beyond what they say they're aiming for is rather dreamy?

No problem...

Anyways, well I suppose you could call it such. Though bang for the buck shouldn't have to mean it'll be crap against whatever Nvidia has to sell.

 

Whether or not it'll beat GP104, it's hard to say since neither are out yet. Which one might beat who? Hard to say still, it's probable Nvidia will out perform AMD this year again. Though I think that AMD might be able to close that gap with AMD probably being the winner for Price/Performance and likely better Performance/Watt than GP104 too.

I do hope that the 480X will be the best for 1440p/60fps with high to ultra settings, if it's suppose to be the VR sweet spot card.

 

[handymanshandle]

5 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

I am not thinking that this table is to accurate, and just guessing because why would amd reduce the memory bus to 256bit from 512bit on the 390x, and the 980ti had a 384 bit bus unless this has something to do with the gddr5x

If you didn't notice, it was the 480X and 480. Not the 490X and 490. 

I think the 490 and 490X will probably keep the 512 bit bus and have more CUs, SPs, TMUs, ROPs, etc.