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AMD Zen Initially only Coming With 8-Core Dies-8 Core and 6 Core Zen CPUs to be the First to Hit the Market

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8 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Because Intel isn't the best at this game for no reason. Performance and efficiency are in many ways negatively correlated from a hardware perspective.

Deep pockets make bribery far more effective :P


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Most general information there is:

14nm

40-50% increase in IPC

around 60-150W TDP range, but more like 95-125W TDP

New motherboards to go alone with the new CPU

New motherboards will have PCIE gen 3.0, if it doesn't then that's a failure...

But idc, i got the performance for computer parts from 2012 or so.

Runs all of my games fine. I get around 60FPS in The Crew, GTA 5(High settings because limited by VRAM), CSGO, and Dirt Rally. 

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Maybe some actual cores this time AMD


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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

Maybe some actual cores this time AMD

This time 4 cores share an FPU/Vector Unit :P


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If this a SMT 8-Core CPU with IPC similar to Halswell and clocked around 3.5GHz I know what my next upgrade is going to be...


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1 hour ago, Belgarathian said:

If this a SMT 8-Core CPU with IPC similar to Halswell and clocked around 3.5GHz I know what my next upgrade is going to be...

a 6950X obviously. Freaking AMD can't get anything enthusiast right...


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33 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

a 6950X obviously. Freaking AMD can't get anything enthusiast right...

There is always a first time... 

 

The old Athlon 64, and X2 chips were good back in the day...


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16 hours ago, ZetZet said:

If the 6 core is 300+ usd rip in pieces AMD.

 

It should be 200, direct competition for the i5. (if it even has the performance of an i5)

and your statement makes no fucking sense.

 

we assume ZEN to be around Ivy Bridge or Haswell in terms of single core performance.

a 6c/12t Ivy bridge "class" CPU will destroy a 6600k and very likely the 7600k too on performance in all but single threaded tasks. THINGS ARENT THAT SINGLETHREADED ANYMORE. If you do not believe me, do what ive been doing recently. Go from a A10 7850k to a i3 6100.... I was hoping for a good jump in performance, and you know what? its barely any jump... they both lag as badly with heavy multi tasking, and they BOTH deliver about the same FPS. Sadly.

Did i waste some money getting the i3 6100. Sure, but i bought it for the platform more then the CPU.

 

That being said. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1544?vs=552

The only places where 6600k wins is single threaded and in places where its in-built encoders/decoders can do the work rather then the CPU cores (3930k doesnt have 4k encoders or decoders)

 

ZEN has Hyperthreading. We know that much by now.

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8 hours ago, ZetZet said:

that doesn't make any sense.

 

 

you mean AMD could defeat the laws of physics to compete with Intel? WHY HAVEN'T THEY DONE THAT BEFORE

Jim keller hasnt been working for em before now.

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5 hours ago, Prysin said:

we assume ZEN to be around Ivy Bridge or Haswell in terms of single core performance.

A problem I see is people in general are applying the 40%+ IPC improvement across the board. The more realistic scenario is some things will be faster by a LOT, others hardly changed. On some average, it will be that 40%+ figure. As far as I'm concerned, they need to be comparable to at least Haswell in most situations to keep in the game.

 

One current AMD CPU weaknesses is anything FPU related. They have one weak FPU per module (2 cores). If they keep the same FPU but put one per core, they already doubled performance. Anything less than that will be an epic fail for AMD. That only gets them up to Sandy Bridge level. I would hope they also updated FMA instructions to actually provide benefit, and boost up to Haswell+ level. So if the FPU is at least Haswell level, that's at least 3x the performance they have now.


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