Electrical interferance Studio Monitors help???

[Dackzy]

9 minutes ago, SSL said:

 

Because I'm always so right. As predicted, this thread has gone nowhere overnight. But I'm sure the combined LTT brain trust will work it out eventually.

Why can't OP just follow your guide?

[spwath]

2 hours ago, Dackzy said:

Why can't OP just follow your guide?

Because he "knows how to troubleshoot"

[Hans Christian | Teri]

7 hours ago, SSL said:

Because I'm always so right. As predicted, this thread has gone nowhere overnight. But I'm sure the combined LTT brain trust will work it out eventually.

Sure, but unlike you we put in an actual effort, and after reading your precious troubleshooting guide it seems that nothing in there is going to fix his issue either.

[spwath]

14 minutes ago, Hans Christian | Teri said:

Sure, but unlike you we put in an actual effort, and after reading your precious troubleshooting guide it seems that nothing in there is going to fix his issue either.

That guide took effort. As did that recomended audio gear thread.

 

As a audio sub forum Regular, there are so many threads that are so similar, it's pointless to try and re do everything every time.

[SSL]

12 minutes ago, Hans Christian | Teri said:

Sure, but unlike you we put in an actual effort, and after reading your precious troubleshooting guide it seems that nothing in there is going to fix his issue either.

 

We'll never know, since the OP hasn't deigned to read it. The systematic process-of-elimination approach is the key to the guide, moreso than the specific solutions.

 

Most significantly, everything suggested with so much "effort" in the thread so far is mentioned in the guide.

[Hans Christian | Teri]

4 minutes ago, SSL said:

 

We'll never know, since the OP hasn't deigned to read it. The systematic process-of-elimination approach is the key to the guide, moreso than the specific solutions.

 

Most significantly, everything suggested with so much "effort" in the thread so far is mentioned in the guide.

Then please, by all means, enlighten me. Which part of your guide was not suggested and has he not already tried that is in any shape or form related to his issue? You could have helped him in a much friendlier way than simply linking to your uber 1337 hax guide in which his problem is not even stated as a sympton. I don't doubt that writing it took effort, but from what I can see everything that you have mentioned in your guide that could be even remotely related to the issue have been suggested and / or tried.

[SSL]

15 minutes ago, Hans Christian | Teri said:

Then please, by all means, enlighten me. Which part of your guide was not suggested and has he not already tried that is in any shape or form related to his issue? You could have helped him in a much friendlier way than simply linking to your uber 1337 hax guide in which his problem is not even stated as a sympton. I don't doubt that writing it took effort, but from what I can see everything that you have mentioned in your guide that could be even remotely related to the issue have been suggested and / or tried.

 

Well, as far as I can tell the monitors themselves, as well as their patch cables, have been eliminated as being the cause. Obviously, that means the cause is another device. The only way to find it is to systematically move/power down/unplug peripherals until the bare minimum is active. Which I'm pretty sure is stated in the guide:

 

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Eliminate External Sources of Interference:

• Relocate possible sources of EMI/RFI interference away from the computer and audio equipment (wireless access points, wireless peripherals, mobile phones, microwave ovens, etc)
• Unplug other appliances that may be source of interference over AC power
  • This includes but is not limited to: household appliances, dimmer light switches, and other computers
• Connect the system a different AC wall socket, preferably on a different circuit breaker

 

The OP claims to be using a "dedicated circuit". I have no idea if that means that only that room is on one breaker, or if they have a more eggstra special setup. Either way, There is still a computer sitting there - a source of power spikes and EMI. The guide says "other" computers, but since there is apparently only one computer on the circuit I think we can extrapolate to the situation.

[The Flying Sloth]

14 hours ago, Dackzy said:

Why can't OP just follow your guide?

I did, I have tried other guides too and as far as I can tell nothing seems to be the problem. Even when unplugging my computer the buzzing still happens so thank's for trying
 

11 hours ago, spwath said:

Because he "knows how to troubleshoot"

I did read the guide and it didn't help me fix my issue

 

7 hours ago, Hans Christian | Teri said:

Sure, but unlike you we put in an actual effort, and after reading your precious troubleshooting guide it seems that nothing in there is going to fix his issue either.

Thankyou for trying to help out, you seem to be the only one interested in doing so

 

[Pomfinator]

36 minutes ago, The Flying Sloth said:

I did, I have tried other guides too and as far as I can tell nothing seems to be the problem. Even when unplugging my computer the buzzing still happens so thank's for trying

Wait? You tried this and didn't think that it was important? Now you know that nothing in your computer is causing the EMI, which means it's likely from a bad amp in one of your monitors.

[SSL]

1 hour ago, The Flying Sloth said:

I did read the guide and it didn't help me fix my issue

 

You don't just "read it", you do the things it says and report the results.

 

1 hour ago, The Flying Sloth said:

Even when unplugging my computer the buzzing still happens

 

"Unplugged"? From what, the wall, the speakers, or both? Was it powered off? These details matter.

 

1 hour ago, The Flying Sloth said:

so thank's for trying

 

lol

[NoobCase]

Remind me to show this thread to my colleagues at Tannoy. They may have hard of this exact problem before. 

[SSL]

1 hour ago, NoobCase said:

Remind me to show this thread to my colleagues at Tannoy. They may have hard of this exact problem before. 

 

Show this thread to your colleagues at Tannoy. And report what they report.

 

[Unhelpful]

On 5/2/2016 at 4:55 AM, The Flying Sloth said:

I know how to troubleshoot but thanks for trying

Clearly not. Go through his troubleshooting guide to determine the issue. Report back AFTER trying. 

[The Flying Sloth]

12 hours ago, SSL said:

 

 

 

 

"Unplugged"? From what, the wall, the speakers, or both? Was it powered off? These details matter.

 

 

 

From the wall, no power.

1 hour ago, JoeyDM said:

Clearly not. Go through his troubleshooting guide to determine the issue. Report back AFTER trying. 

It is not the computer, it is not the cables, it is not the speaker, it is not the mixer, it is not the DAC it is not the EQ, it is not my bass or guitar amps, It is not My subwoofer Amp, No matter what I do, the buzzing is still there. (don't know if it is important to note that the pattern changed to 3-3-3-3 when not using the mixer)

3 hours ago, NoobCase said:

Remind me to show this thread to my colleagues at Tannoy. They may have hard of this exact problem before. 

Thanks man, would greatly appreciate it.

 

[NoobCase]

3 minutes ago, The Flying Sloth said:

From the wall, no power.

It is not the computer, it is not the cables, it is not the speaker, it is not the mixer, it is not the DAC it is not the EQ, it is not my bass or guitar amps, It is not My subwoofer Amp, No matter what I do, the buzzing is still there. (don't know if it is important to note that the pattern changed to 3-3-3-3 when not using the mixer)

Thanks man, would greatly appreciate it.

 

Np...  Do you happen to ha e a recording of the sound?  It may be helpfull 

[SSL]

23 minutes ago, The Flying Sloth said:

It is not the computer, it is not the cables, it is not the speaker, it is not the mixer, it is not the DAC it is not the EQ, it is not my bass or guitar amps, It is not My subwoofer Amp, No matter what I do, the buzzing is still there. (don't know if it is important to note that the pattern changed to 3-3-3-3 when not using the mixer)

 

If isn't caused by something, then it can't be happening.

 

How did you determine that it isn't the speaker? I missed the part where you reversed them or tried different speakers. Or bothered to share any of your troubleshooting steps with the thread. For example, since you read my guide, I assume you've tried moving your system to a different location with different circuit in your home/studio?

[spwath]

10 minutes ago, SSL said:

 

If isn't caused by something, then it can't be happening.

 

How did you determine that it isn't the speaker? I missed the part where you reversed them or tried different speakers. Or bothered to share any of your troubleshooting steps with the thread. For example, since you read my guide, I assume you've tried moving your system to a different location with different circuit in your home/studio?

Seems to me like it is the speakers if they are unplugged from everything and still make the noise.

Or power if they havent been moved around.

[SSL]

1 minute ago, spwath said:

Seems to me like it is the speakers if they are unplugged from everything and still make the noise.

Or power if they havent been moved around.

 

You'd think, but the OP knows how to troubleshoot and they have eliminated every possible cause.

[SuicideAnomaly]

Clearly, you're dealing with gremlins…

[The Flying Sloth]

7 hours ago, SSL said:

 

If isn't caused by something, then it can't be happening.

 

How did you determine that it isn't the speaker? I missed the part where you reversed them or tried different speakers. Or bothered to share any of your troubleshooting steps with the thread. For example, since you read my guide, I assume you've tried moving your system to a different location with different circuit in your home/studio?

"well my setup doesn't, just about every 20-45 minutes I get that buzzing, same pattern every time and it is only through my left monitor (yes I have swapped them around and it stays on the left side) "

I wrote that on the first page about 6 comments down. And no I have not moved the studio yet because that is a big job and I would like to exhaust all other options before I have to do that

 

8 hours ago, NoobCase said:

Np...  Do you happen to ha e a recording of the sound?  It may be helpfull 

I do, I was recording something for my younger brothers English assignment and I caught it in the background I'm pretty sure, Will upload once I get access to the recording.

 

7 hours ago, SuicideAnomaly said:

Clearly, you're dealing with gremlins…

Nah, I got rid of the gremlins as per SSL's troubleshooting guide. That was the third step

[NoobCase]

2 hours ago, The Flying Sloth said:

"well my setup doesn't, just about every 20-45 minutes I get that buzzing, same pattern every time and it is only through my left monitor (yes I have swapped them around and it stays on the left side) "

I wrote that on the first page about 6 comments down. And no I have not moved the studio yet because that is a big job and I would like to exhaust all other options before I have to do that

 

I do, I was recording something for my younger brothers English assignment and I caught it in the background I'm pretty sure, Will upload once I get access to the recording.

 

Nah, I got rid of the gremlins as per SSL's troubleshooting guide. That was the third step

If it stays on what ever monitor that is placed on the left, I'm pretty sure our acoustical engineers and designers won't be able to help as it really doesn't sound like the issues is caused by the monitor. I will run it by them anyways. Make sure to mention me when you upload the sound clip.

[SSL]

2 hours ago, The Flying Sloth said:

I wrote that on the first page about 6 comments down. And no I have not moved the studio yet because that is a big job and I would like to exhaust all other options before I have to do that.

 

Your options are exhausted.

 

Apparently you've already tried eliminating every possible component. It isn't the speakers, it isn't the cables, it isn't the computer or anything else in the signal chain.

 

So either it is something coming in over the AC line or it is wireless. Unless someone comes along who has had this problem, the "easiest" way to confirm is to move the system.

[NoobCase]

I have one of our technicians look up if there's any similar know issues with those monitors. They did however all say it sounds like wireless inteference. 

[NoobCase]

A theory of my own.  Could it be that wireless inteference is transfered by the powercord/ac lines? Did you also change the power cards for the monitors or is the one on the left using the same? If that makes any sense

[NoobCase]

Here is the answer from the the Tannoy tech guys:

 

from what you're describing to me, it sounds like it's the source that is causing the issues, but obviously amplified electronics can become faulty so it COULD be the reveals as well. Would need more info and probably best conversing with him directly so he could try things we advise

maybe put him on to support.tannoy.com?