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What Is This Lag?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
in Photography and Videography
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This happens all the time and I don't think it is my PC being to slow. I think it is my hard drive as it is a WD Green. Any ideas?

 

 

Also I am not even rometly close to being done with the video. Needs color correction and re editing. I just wanted to show you guys what I am talking about

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

This happens all the time and I don't think it is my PC being to slow. I think it is my hard drive as it is a WD Green. Any ideas?

 

 

Also I am not even rometly close to being done with the video. Needs color correction and re editing. I just wanted to show you guys what I am talking about

Guessing you're not thermal throttling or anything, considering your cooling looks pretty good according to your sig.

 

What bitrate and format are you working with?

 

Also, you might want to play with RAM allocation in your video editor.

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Are you working with 4K footage?  Try reducing the quality to 1/2 or 1/4.

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You need the video files on an SSD

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

This happens all the time and I don't think it is my PC being to slow. I think it is my hard drive as it is a WD Green. Any ideas?

 

 

Also I am not even rometly close to being done with the video. Needs color correction and re editing. I just wanted to show you guys what I am talking about

did you check task manager to see if your CPU was taxed? Or is the disk at a constant 100%?

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2 minutes ago, ALwin said:

Are you working with 4K footage?  Try reducing the quality to 1/2 or 1/4.

It is 1080

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

It is 1080

So what is the bit rate and quality of the original video file straight from the memory card, what sort of effects have you applied?

Try moving the video file to your SSD and see if that helps.

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1 minute ago, ALwin said:

So what is the bit rate and quality of the original video file straight from the memory card, what sort of effects have you applied?

Try moving the video file to your SSD and see if that helps.

It is just RAW MOV from my 7D mark II. No effects have been applied.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

It is just RAW MOV from my 7D mark II. No effects have been applied.

Then it just might be the HDD.  Look online for some tips on optimising storage for Premiere Pro.  When using a HDD, having a separate drive as a scratch disk is recommended (at least last time I checked a few years ago) while SSDs tend to have much better performance and it's not always necessary.

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Look at the video here:

https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/optimizing-hard-disks 

 

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1 minute ago, ALwin said:

Then it just might be the HDD.  Look online for some tips on optimising storage for Premiere Pro.  When using a HDD, having a separate drive as a scratch disk is recommended (at least last time I checked a few years ago) while SSDs tend to have much better performance and it's not always necessary.

While I have 30gb of Temp Cache on the SSD and the rest is saved in RAM then it goes to the HDD but the files are not huge a gig or less.

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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

While I have 30gb of Temp Cache on the SSD and the rest is saved in RAM then it goes to the HDD but the files are not huge a gig or less.

My basic recommendation for anyone building or setting up a video editing workstation:

  1. SSD for OS (at least 128GB or more).
  2. Separate SSD for active project files, including the video files that are part of the active projects.  A dual SSD RAID 0 or PCIe/M.2 SSD would be preferred.  Minimum 512GB storage capacity.
  3. Large capacity HDD for local archiving of recent projects (perhaps one year's worth so that if you need to go back and work on a recently finished project you don't have to look through external drives/backup locations).
  4. External drives, NAS, RAID boxes for long term archives and backup.

Drive setup 1 and 2 are the ones you work with.  3 and 4 are for backing up, archiving, just storing files.

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4 minutes ago, ALwin said:

Look at the video here:

https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/optimizing-hard-disks 

 

I moved all footage to the SSD and all lag is gone. Guess I will be investing in a 950 Pro and some Samsung 850 pros.

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Looks like a problem with the video render which has problems with syncing the frame rate. 

A SSD is not needed for ~50Mbit/s footage.

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1 hour ago, .spider. said:

Looks like a problem with the video render which has problems with syncing the frame rate. 

A SSD is not needed for ~50Mbit/s footage.

Then what is a fix?

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9 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Then what is a fix?

Open the resource monitor and look if there is a component under high load. 

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6 hours ago, .spider. said:

Open the resource monitor and look if there is a component under high load. 

 

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