Which 980 would you choose? (Reference 980 or MSI Nvidia GTX 980 4GB After Burner Overclocked edition)

[RobPlev]

There is two builds I am looking at. They are very similar except for one build has an i5-6400 and reference 980 and the other has a i5-6500 with a MSI afterburner 980. 

 

Which one?

[SZEM]

get a 970 and a 6700k. You can overclock the 970 to get the same performance as an 980

[FirstArmada]

2 minutes ago, SZEM said:

get a 970 and a 6700k. You can overclock the 970 to get the same performance as an 980

Not all 970s can if you win big time in the silicon lottery maybe, but it will only ever be as good as a stock 980 an overclocked 980 will always beat a 970 

 

Get the 6500 and the MSI 980, the 6400 bottle necks the 980 in some poorly optimized games (Arma 3 etc)

[SZEM]

Just now, FirstArmada said:

Not all 970s can if you win big time in the silicon lottery maybe, but it will only ever be as good as a stock 980 an overclocked 980 will always beat a 970 

But if hes going to play in 1080p it dosen't matter.

[RobPlev]

4 minutes ago, SZEM said:

But if hes going to play in 1080p it dosen't matter.

At first I will probably only play 1080p but I'm willing to get a 1440p monitor in a few months if the card can handle it fine. 

[FirstArmada]

7 minutes ago, SZEM said:

But if hes going to play in 1080p it dosen't matter.

Where does it say he has a 1080P monitor .

 

Anyways the 980 has horrible bang for the buck and the 390 out preforms the 970 in all DX12 titles and alot of DX11 titles too.

 

I would get a 390X and youll be set for any 1080P game and able to play some 1440P and up stuff too

 

ONLY IF YOU NEED AN UPGRADE NOW

 

otherwise wait for Polaris/Pascal

 

Polaris 10 is rumored to provide 980 ti like performance for 350 USD and supposedly release in late June

[SeanAngelo]

12 minutes ago, RobPlev said:

There is two builds I am looking at. They are very similar except for one build has an i5-6400 and reference 980 and the other has a i5-6500 with a MSI afterburner 980. 

 

Which one?

msi card.

[Moonzy]

for SFF builds, reference card

for builds with good air flow, open air cooler (the MSI)

 

5 minutes ago, FirstArmada said:

the 390 out preforms the 970 in all DX12 titles

iirc its not all, but most

but i havent been following it much so i dunno lol

[Majestic]

41 minutes ago, SZEM said:

get a 970 and a 6700k. You can overclock the 970 to get the same performance as an 980

I never really understand what people are thinking when they say this. You can overclock the 980 aswell? Honestly... think before you speak.

In fact, because it has more shader units, it scales more with overclocking.

 

Also, EVGA or MSI cards are ok.

[FirstArmada]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

for SFF builds, reference card

for builds with good air flow, open air cooler (the MSI)

 

iirc its not all, but most

but i havent been following it much so i dunno lol

 

Ashes of the Singularity , The Elder Scrolls Online , Rise of the Tomb Raider ,  Gears of War Ultimate Edition , Hitman and Quantum Break those are all of the ones i know and 390 out preforms 970 in em .

[ivryk]

6 hours ago, RobPlev said:

There is two builds I am looking at. They are very similar except for one build has an i5-6400 and reference 980 and the other has a i5-6500 with a MSI afterburner 980. 

 

Which one?

MSI 

[RobPlev]

1 hour ago, FirstArmada said:

 

Ashes of the Singularity , The Elder Scrolls Online , Rise of the Tomb Raider ,  Gears of War Ultimate Edition , Hitman and Quantum Break those are all of the ones i know and 390 out preforms 970 in em .

Having an argument over the 390 vs 970 when I want a 980 haha

[FirstArmada]

29 minutes ago, RobPlev said:

Having an argument over the 390 vs 970 when I want a 980 haha

Not an argument stating the facts 980 has horrible bang for the buck, but if you feel the need to give your money to a company like Nvidia none the less by all means do so watching people sink massive amounts of money into something that isnt worth it and to someone thing that doesn't deserve it is my favorite past time 

[HelplmChoking]

57 minutes ago, RobPlev said:

Having an argument over the 390 vs 970 when I want a 980 haha

I think they were trying to say that the 980 presents a lower performance/dollar point. If you can, the 980ti would be an awesome upgrade. Also, seeing that one of the 980 options will give you a slight upgrade to the CPU, you may as well go with that one. The open air cooler should run cooler than the reference design, giving a little more overclocking headroom and possibly better performance with GPU boost. However, if you're building in a particularly small case, reference may be the way to go.

 

TL;DR:

MSI gives you a better CPU, better temps and possibly better performance, the reference card will kick less heat into a small chassis, and the 980ti stomps both.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

8 hours ago, SZEM said:

get a 970 and a 6700k. You can overclock the 970 to get the same performance as an 980

 

And you can oc the 980 to match the 980 ti.

 

 

[RobPlev]

14 hours ago, FirstArmada said:

Not an argument stating the facts 980 has horrible bang for the buck, but if you feel the need to give your money to a company like Nvidia none the less by all means do so watching people sink massive amounts of money into something that isnt worth it and to someone thing that doesn't deserve it is my favorite past time 

I look forward to Nvidia taking over the world. 

[Sintezza]

Msi card will be fine.

I´m not a huge fan of reference cards personaly.

But basicly anything from EVGA will also be fine aswell.

 

But wenn it comes to the GTX980 vs competition.

I would say grab a Sapphire R9-Fury Nitro or TriX OC.

Way better performing card in most games for the same price.

[FirstArmada]

14 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

And you can oc the 980 to match the 980 ti.

 

 

You can oc the 980 to match a *STOCK*  980 Ti  but you can also oc a 980 Ti and 980 will be no where near that performance 980 Ti is a beast ocer from what ive seen people on average getting core clock speeds of 1400+ 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

1 minute ago, FirstArmada said:

You can oc the 980 to match a *STOCK*  980 Ti  but you can also oc a 980 Ti and 980 will be no where near that performance 980 Ti is a beast ocer from what ive seen people on average getting core clock speeds of 1400+ 

 

Yes and thanks for completing my post since I was lazy af to mention the 980 Ti  

[RobPlev]

30 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

Yes and thanks for completing my post since I was lazy af to mention the 980 Ti  

Yeah the 980 Ti is a fucking monster but way too expensive for me atm 

[VagabondWraith]

17 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

And you can oc the 980 to match the 980 ti.

 

 

Hell no. Only way a 980 can beat a stock Ti is under LN2.

[ivryk]

6 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

Hell no. Only way a 980 can beat a stock Ti is under LN2.

 It will of course depend from game to game but you can get up close.

[VagabondWraith]

4 hours ago, ivryk said:

 It will of course depend from game to game but you can get up close.

Very rarely does that happen. The benchmarks don't lie. When I went from a 980 to a 980 Ti I saw an FPS increase from 10-20 or more across the board. 

[arnavvr]

On 4/29/2016 at 10:12 AM, SZEM said:

get a 970 and a 6700k. You can overclock the 970 to get the same performance as an 980

And you can also overclock a GTX 980 to 980Ti perf. Your point?

[arnavvr]

10 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

Hell no. Only way a 980 can beat a stock Ti is under LN2.

@Lays EVGA Classified 980 beat a stock 980Ti in FS under water.