AMD's Stock Price Skyrockets 52% in a Single Day

[DocSwag]

7 hours ago, CommandMan7 said:

And this is all before Zen nor Polaris have launched. When that happens, AMD will be even better off.

While it is true this is happening before they launched, you do realize that it is BECAUSE of Zen and Polaris that AMD is getting these deals, right? It is highly speculated the China deal is because of Zen. Why would the Chinese company want to license crappy bulldozer based CPUs? They don't, and so chances are they are licensing Zen. As for the console deals, notice the consoles are coming in mid2016 and 2017. For the mid 2016 one, chances are it will use Polaris (logic) and for the 2017 ones they'll probably use Vega or Polaris mixed with possibly Zen.

[ApolloFury]

5 hours ago, christianled59 said:

You. Have. Got. To be kidding me.

 

2 days ago I was talking to my friend about investing a couple $k into amd. After a few long, drawn out conversations he convinced me to not invest. 

 

I could be rich right now. 

 

I think I should just kill myself now. 

You better slap your friend and show him the graph.

[patrickjp93]

1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

While it is true this is happening before they launched, you do realize that it is BECAUSE of Zen and Polaris that AMD is getting these deals, right? It is highly speculated the China deal is because of Zen. Why would the Chinese company want to license crappy bulldozer based CPUs? They don't, and so chances are they are licensing Zen. As for the console deals, notice the consoles are coming in mid2016 and 2017. For the mid 2016 one, chances are it will use Polaris (logic) and for the 2017 ones they'll probably use Vega or Polaris mixed with possibly Zen.

The U.S. government would never allow it. AMD, Nvidia, and Intel are all legally barred from selling their high end stuff to China. If AMD tried to license Zen, the FTC would stomp on the deal with just as much force as when IBM tried to directly license Power 8 to (iirc) Huawei 2 years ago.

[christianled59]

1 hour ago, ApolloFury said:

You better slap your friend and show him the graph.

I plan to.

[ace_cheaply]

9 minutes ago, christianled59 said:

I plan to.

But remember, you're an adult that makes their own decisions.  I mean, it's not as if he slapped the wallet out of your hand and forbade you from buying it.  

 

 

Off topic, I really am looking forward to the next gen of gpus.  I'll be in the market exactly around the time it drops, hopefully. If Polaris 10 is a 390 replacement, I'll be buying it day one.

[SurvivorNVL]

2 hours ago, christianled59 said:

I plan to.

I personally think it could go up to $6.20 or $8 as a ceiling, though that is just speculation.  I sold a crap ton of shares when it was $2.20-ish, and had I just waited--I could've made a few thousand dollars and gotten more Nordic American Tanker shares.

[CommandMan7]

7 hours ago, Sakkura said:

How can market cap only have increased by $190 million, when it had a 52% jump to $3.17 billion? The increase should be just over a billion dollars.

Well I calculated that based on the 140 million trading volume yesterday times 1.37, but I might be doing that wrong.

[Stefan1024]

Looks like some brokers have watched the following two videos:

 

 

[spwath]

13 hours ago, Enderman said:

it changes the proportions...

or maybe you dont understand what bias is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misleading_graph

you can learn all about it there

well actually an unbiased graph and its still high

[Mr.Meerkat]

4 minutes ago, spwath said:

well actually an unbiased graph and its still high

Yup, that's a a very noticeable change even with a graph starting at 0 so yeah...good for AMD...just as I was thinking about investing half of the money I have onto a company as I'm only 16 and can't exactly work due to reasons...god dammit...could have been a nice amount of money for me to put into my Zen and possibly polaris upgrade...

 

Once AMD can break-even (if that ever happens), they will easily be able to put a lot more into R&D into both divisions...people really should give AMD credit where it's due...it's not that easy to be loosing money for multiple years while having to split all of their money between two major divisions while your competitors are both bigger with more money and are only having to spend their money on their only major division...

[Starelementpoke]

13 hours ago, Enderman said:

 

It's not foolish, it's a fact that the graph is misleading

But yeah, your school definitely didn't teach you about misleading graph strategies.

Honestly you should go learn about it, because it's very important to know when you're being mislead.

 

https://www.baekdal.com/insights/misleading-types-of-graphs-for-the-media

http://www.iacquire.com/blog/5-ways-to-avoid-being-fooled-by-statistics

 

It's obvious that you two are "smart enough" to read the numbers, but regular people don't do this. Go to your grandmother or parents and show them a graph like this and they will think its a huge increase

  Reveal hidden contents

That's why graphs like this are a problem

Because a graph is supposed to show you unbiased data that you can read without doing math

And when you show a graph to millions of people on the internet, most of them do not look at the numbers

 

This is why biased graphs are such a good marketing strategy.

Oh I get it, it´s biased because it shows a steep increase when just taking the line into account, even though the actual value behind that line may not be that much.

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Oh I get it, it´s biased because it shows a steep increase when just taking the line into account, even though the actual value behind that line may not be that much.

Yeah!  You get it!

 

[Starelementpoke]

Just now, Enderman said:

Yeah!  You get it!

 

I was really confused on what you were talking about at first, fuck I´ve been doing nothing productive this week. April Break and all that. My brain feels like mush.

[Syde]

that is only going to improve the competition and make the industry evolve

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, CommandMan7 said:

Well I calculated that based on the 140 million trading volume yesterday times 1.37, but I might be doing that wrong.

Yeah, it's not just the shares that were traded that went up in price.

[MMKing]

For those of you calling biased graphics design, that is how 95%+ of the stock market illustrate stock prices.

 

Why? Because it doesn't matter if a .5% increase is illustrated as a 5% increase. At a glance, you should be able to see that a fluctuation has occurred, and then take a closer look. A 50% increase is not normal, in fact, it is the single best day AMD has had since it's foundation. So what if the illustration is misleading to a moron?

[Agent181]

14 hours ago, JefferyD90 said:

I like to play in the stock market, I buy what I know.  Back in December I bought just under 1000 shares for $2.08 a share.  Right now, I'm pretty happy with my return.

and zen isnt even out yet so should be going up more

[Shahnewaz]

15 hours ago, Enderman said:

nice biased graph, 10/10 what they teach you not to do in elementary school

If you have a problem with the graph, go complain to Google about that.

OP made it very clear in his title and description that the stock jumped 52%. Nothing more, nothing less.

[SuperCookie78]

The funny thing is is that on april 22 2013 there stock was at 2.64 and on april 29 they were at 3.60. I guess april might become AMD's lucky month

[alamox]

9 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

The U.S. government would never allow it. AMD, Nvidia, and Intel are all legally barred from selling their high end stuff to China. If AMD tried to license Zen, the FTC would stomp on the deal with just as much force as when IBM tried to directly license Power 8 to (iirc) Huawei 2 years ago.

they actualy did " As part of its earnings release today, it was announced that AMD has partnered with a combination of public and private Chinese companies to license its high-end server architecture and products. The Chinese company is called THATIC, Tianjin Haiguang Advanced Technology Investment Co. Ltd., and it will license x86 designs and SoC technology providing all the tools needed to make a server platform including CPUs, interconnects and controllers. "

" Basically, China wants their “own” hardware and software for government-funded institutions. This was driven by the Snowden revelations and the cooling of the China economy. For software, it means submitting source code to inspect for things like back doors, but also having Chinese institutions buy software from Chinese software vendors.  It’s a bit more complex on the hardware side. Net-net, on the server side it involves Chinese companies integrating core IP from western countries, adding their own “special sauce” like security and accelerators and selling to Chinese server OEMs.  This is exactly what happened with Advanced Micro Devices announcement today of its China JV. "

[Doobeedoo]

Good, anything to help them be profitable and go forward.

[dalekphalm]

The interesting thing is what the Stock does on Monday.

[patrickjp93]

3 hours ago, alamox said:

they actualy did " As part of its earnings release today, it was announced that AMD has partnered with a combination of public and private Chinese companies to license its high-end server architecture and products. The Chinese company is called THATIC, Tianjin Haiguang Advanced Technology Investment Co. Ltd., and it will license x86 designs and SoC technology providing all the tools needed to make a server platform including CPUs, interconnects and controllers. "

" Basically, China wants their “own” hardware and software for government-funded institutions. This was driven by the Snowden revelations and the cooling of the China economy. For software, it means submitting source code to inspect for things like back doors, but also having Chinese institutions buy software from Chinese software vendors.  It’s a bit more complex on the hardware side. Net-net, on the server side it involves Chinese companies integrating core IP from western countries, adding their own “special sauce” like security and accelerators and selling to Chinese server OEMs.  This is exactly what happened with Advanced Micro Devices announcement today of its China JV. "

Within 2 months, this deal will be undone. It's a vital U.S. security interest.

[Dabombinable]

6 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Within 2 months, this deal will be undone. It's a vital U.S. security interest.

Like seeing what everyone has installed on their phone?

[dalekphalm]

7 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Within 2 months, this deal will be undone. It's a vital U.S. security interest.

I would think that AMD's Lawyers have already looked into the matter to ensure that they aren't violating any US laws and/or trade deals. Especially if, as you say, the US already shot down a deal IBM tried to make. AMD would have already seen that and been given the heads up on what to look out for.