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i live near philadelphia and they are trying to start a sugary drink tax

i think this is kind of crazy because making drinks more expensive is not going to stop obesity the way to stop obesity is to teach people about what healthy foods to eat and how to exercise and stay healthy if we teach children how to be healthy at a young age they will develop good habits and will be healthy for life

they haven't explained what counts as sugary but basically they are taxing sodas sports drinks iced teas coffee juices (doesnt apply to diet drinks with fake sugar)

i dont care if they tax soda but this applies at grocery stores so if i wanted to buy a 64oz bottle of grape juice for $3 i would have to pay another $2 with this tax in place

the proposed tax is 3 cents per ounce of drink

this is not a very smart idea

the city plans to use this money to fund universal pre-k, help the education system, and rennovate parks in the philly area

i would like to know your thoughts on this

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If it brings in extra revenue, and they'll use that revenue to improve the city, then great. If 3¢/oz can help improve the education system, then that sounds just fine by me.

 

Have they said that this tax is implemented to help obesity? I might just be the most convenient thing to tax.


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If it's a steeper tax, one might reconsider getting a soda the size of a small child. Instead, they might go for a cheaper, smaller option.


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Welcome to the United States of America, where passing retarded ass bills are apparently the only solution to stop something. 

Let's see how fast this crashes and burns *cough* SOPA


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They are taxing you for having an unhealthy way of life. Obesity is a big problem and costs a lot of money. 

 

Also you say the tax won't stop obesity but I'm sure you are already thinking it twice before buying that grape juice so... 

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I think it sounds like a good idea but those people in Boston got pretty mad about that tax on tea.


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There are shit ton of State and Federal taxes on Cigarettes. Seeing how they cause health issues, its not really a stretch to put a tax on these beverages. A very simple solution is to drink water, which is the elixir of life. I have touched a pop or tea in like 6 months. I drink nothing but water. Guess what, I feel much better. So go ahead tax the hell out of it. If it doesnt stop obesity, it will at least get some extra tax dollars to something that needs it. 


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Does anyone appreciate the irony of taxing drinks that contain High Fructose Corn Syrup as a cause of obesity and other health issues but the actual production of HFCS is heavily subsidized by the United States government? :D

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11 hours ago, alexc026 said:

i live near philadelphia and they are trying to start a sugary drink tax

i think this is kind of crazy because making drinks more expensive is not going to stop obesity the way to stop obesity is to teach people about what healthy foods to eat and how to exercise and stay healthy if we teach children how to be healthy at a young age they will develop good habits and will be healthy for life

they haven't explained what counts as sugary but basically they are taxing sodas sports drinks iced teas coffee juices (doesnt apply to diet drinks with fake sugar)

i dont care if they tax soda but this applies at grocery stores so if i wanted to buy a 64oz bottle of grape juice for $3 i would have to pay another $2 with this tax in place

the proposed tax is 3 cents per ounce of drink

this is not a very smart idea

the city plans to use this money to fund universal pre-k, help the education system, and rennovate parks in the philly area

i would like to know your thoughts on this

just give pepsi and coke a shout on twitter .they will along with the every other group for sugary drinks will tie it up till it dies  or sue like they did i here in NYC . they will kill it before it moves on inch . im not for any tax on sugar in drinks i already pay enough on everything . also soda doesn't make you fat its not moving at all that does it xD


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as someone who lives just outside of philly i haven't heard why they're doing it but i have heard about it before. If it is just for economic purposes  then i think it's fine. But if they are selling it as a sin tax then i don't think their doing the right thing. It would stop people from buying soda. It will just put mor burden on lower income families making them buy fast food. If they could figure out a way to fund the schools then i think that would be a better option, but at this point i have no idea what they would tax. 


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probably under same theory if alcohol & cigars are taxed heavily then low profile users would be on the clear, good strategy imo, but gonna piss off a lot of people "addicted" to it , but regular customers would be pissed with the price bump as well, but excuse is for a better result in the end tho

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14 hours ago, alexc026 said:

i live near philadelphia and they are trying to start a sugary drink tax

i think this is kind of crazy because making drinks more expensive is not going to stop obesity the way to stop obesity is to teach people about what healthy foods to eat and how to exercise and stay healthy if we teach children how to be healthy at a young age they will develop good habits and will be healthy for life

they haven't explained what counts as sugary but basically they are taxing sodas sports drinks iced teas coffee juices (doesnt apply to diet drinks with fake sugar)

i dont care if they tax soda but this applies at grocery stores so if i wanted to buy a 64oz bottle of grape juice for $3 i would have to pay another $2 with this tax in place

the proposed tax is 3 cents per ounce of drink

this is not a very smart idea

the city plans to use this money to fund universal pre-k, help the education system, and rennovate parks in the philly area

i would like to know your thoughts on this

Do you have a source for this? The circumstances for the tax is what the impact that stands here. In plain English; what is the premise for the tax the city or state wants to implement this?


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Too damn high

 

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I don't think soda/pop's calories are the worst thing in the world.  Its the "crash" that lots of people get after they drink one that causes them to go and eat a lot more food (or equally as bad, grab another serving of the drink) than they normally would.  And for that reason, sugary soft drinks, and even "diet" drinks, are evil. 

 

I don't feel that 'fake' sugars should be promoted either.  There is ample evidence out there to suggest that they provoke insulin response as well, and increased hunger. 

 

We accept tobacco taxes because tobacco is a known and unnecessary harm to health.  I don't think anyone but the most Libetarian of nutjobs disagrees with tobacco taxation at this point.  Sugared soft drinks are basically this era's version of tobacco.  Tax and sue 'em outta business I say, I've seen enough people diagnosed with type 2 diabetes significantly on account of long-term "abuse" of sugary soft drinks. 

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The government in this country is introducing a similar tax in the near future. The point of the tax isn't really to stop people drinking these drinks, but instead, it's about paying for the fallout after the drinks. In this country, the state pays for our healthcare so the tax is to help pay for the strain on the health service caused by the drinks. The government also says that they're going to use it to pay for more primary school PE sessions and to better-educate children so that they stay away from the drinks. I personally think that this is important because there are juices that families may drink every meal that contain more sugar than coke, for example.

I do however think that tax increases like this disproportionately affect the working classes. Everyone's children drink fizzy drinks and a slight increase will put a larger hole in the wallets of people who can least afford it.

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I've been hearing/speculating about this since the start of highschool(about 6 years ago at this point).

 

Personally I don't see the purpose to add additional tax to the item(don't know if Philly has sales tax). We already get taxed enough and our taxes don't go to where we want them to go. If they actually cared about health issues they'd propose a bill to ban drinks like these, which probably won't ever happen until they ban cigarettes first.

 

To me this is just another situation of wasted time and resources that won't do anything for consumers.

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21 hours ago, CBojorges said:

They are taxing you for having an unhealthy way of life. Obesity is a big problem and costs a lot of money. 

 

Also you say the tax won't stop obesity but I'm sure you are already thinking it twice before buying that grape juice so... 

Umm how exactly are fruit juice and sports drinks considered unhealthy?

Edit: Same thing with coffee,but diet coke is ok?

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If we are accepting the premise that taxation is an effective punitive measure to discourage an undesirable behavior, why are we taxing income? 

 

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3c/oz is WAY too much. Want a big gulp (32oz?) That'll be 96c more. Your local government is retarded, start a petition against it.

 

The education system does not need this. Universal pre-k is stupid and not needed. Renovating parks can be done with regular taxes, that's what my city does.

 

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I understand and honestly prefer not having such a tax, but it makes more sense than one would think.

 

if a $2 soda now costs $3, obviously you would buy it less. But the further result is that over time the sugary drink becomes the treat-yourself commodity in moderation. This won't necessarily stop strong addictions to soda, but many people probably aren't chemically addicted/reliant to sodas. When you don't default to a sugary drink and instead turn to water as your primary thirst quencher, the benefits are obvious.

 

Whether this works in practice, I guess we will see.

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A Sugar Tax of 20% is going to be implemented in the UK in 2018. I think it's a great idea.


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1 minute ago, Citadelen said:

A Sugar Tax of 20% is going to be implemented in the UK in 2018. I think it's a great idea.

why? it means that nice things will become more expensive, unnecessarily 

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why? it means that nice things will become more expensive, unnecessarily 

1/3 of the British public is obese, sugary drinks are the biggest cause of this, if you make them more unaffordable then in theory less people will buy them, or less often at least.


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Just now, Citadelen said:

1/3 of the British public is obese, sugary drinks are the biggest cause of this, if you make them more unaffordable then in theory less people will buy them, or less often at least.

so what? it is there choice to buy the drink and there own problem that they are obese, its not going to affect you.

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5 minutes ago, NVIDIAIIAIAIAII said:

so what? it is there choice to buy the drink and there own problem that they are obese, its not going to affect you.

I'm a Socialist, I take the view that people should look out for each other, those who eat or drink until they become obese should be helped to stop.


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