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Some people are just too stupid to know what is good for them.... War on people, war on!

 

 

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On 19/04/2016 at 11:39 PM, Security said:

But they stole the country from the Palestinians, at first they lived together peacefully but these days due to the actions of the Israelis this simply is not possible anymore. And since there is massive support from the west and mostly the USA the Israelis can get away with it. Also the Zionist propaganda in the country where they get thought the world hates them.

Although the area was called Palestine, it was first a part of the Ottoman Empire and then a part of the British Empire in the time the concept of nation state and the right to nationality and living space exist. There was no country there before the United Nations decided to divide the territory in two states, a jewish and an arab. Israel has some bad actions, but in no way are the palestinians or the surrounding countries innocent and I believe both sides have something to atone for. In my opinion, education to reduce the religious dominance and improve the overall quality of living in the area is essential for any lasting peace.

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5 hours ago, Keik + Tee said:

Although the area was called Palestine, it was first a part of the Ottoman Empire and then a part of the British Empire in the time the concept of nation state and the right to nationality and living space exist. There was no country there before the United Nations decided to divide the territory in two states, a jewish and an arab. The area has had intermittent war for more than two thousand years. Israel has some bad actions, but in no way are the palestinians or the surrounding countries innocent and I believe both sides have something to atone for. In my opinion, education to reduce the religious dominance and improve the overall quality of living in the area is essential for any lasting peace.

What Israel is doing is not right, and any attempt to justify their actions is abhorrent; same goes for the Palestinians that turn to violence.  I can understand the desperate and sporadic attacks of Palestinians on an empathetic level.  The Israeli forces just downright murder people to send a message of despair and complain that they are being attacked.  It is a war, stop fucking complaining... oh wait, they want money... I get it now. 

 

In no way do I want my country to offer anything other than offer food, clothing and building materials to the region.  Israelis, Palestinians and the rest of the world should be pissed off that any military aid is given to the region... oh wait... war makes money.

 

Fuck I quit. 

 

The way to it looks to me, all parties that thought Jewish migration to the region was a good idea were wrong... and the world has to suffer for it.  Thousands of years old my ass.

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I actually deleted the thousand year part before you posted, because on second thought it didn't seem appropriate. I'm not justifying Israel's actions, far from it; I just don't think it is a simple issue about the good and the villain.

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6 hours ago, Keik + Tee said:

I actually deleted the thousand year part before you posted, because on second thought it didn't seem appropriate. I'm not justifying Israel's actions, far from it; I just don't think it is a simple issue about the good and the villain.

To make a further point, we have an example of what happens to our societies when we accept stupidity in the form of authoritarian policy: 

 

Is anyone safer because of the 15 year campaign against the middle east from "western" forces? 

 

How much public money has been spent? 

 

How many western soldiers have lost their livelihoods and lives? 

 

How many innocent civilians were killed? 

 

All these questions are directed towards to the last 15 years. 

 

We, mostly, are content with accepting this global offensive:  It has to be done.  Fuck this shit.  When will we realize that any political figure that believes war can solve anything is an idiot.

 

You can bet your ass Bernie would fix the biggest threat in the global theater of war, us.  What a waste of money, resources and lives.

 

The current media is campaigning against Bernie's plan... little does the gullible public understand that they are largely being lied to.  Bernie's plans are sound, he believes in his people because he believes that the county's population can promote, and initiate, real progressive change.  Bernie's numbers are not bullshit, they are also not guaranteed.  The media will have you believe that he is crazy because dumb people will eat that shit up.

 

Stupidity acts like a disease sometimes.

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I'm not from the United States, i should say, i'm from Brazil.

I don't think socialist parties or candidates are the answer for the USA right now, just shine a little light on what the PT has been doing here in Brazil in the last 16 years, these people ruined the country, and now with Dilma Rousseff out of charge, i'm feeling a little more safe, i just hope that they get Temer out too, make a new election, hopefully get a nice, conservative, capitalist president in the house.

What a opportunity brazilians lost, they should have elected Enéas Carneiro way back when he was still alive, this wouldn't have happened...

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I found the "I Side With" quiz on the political alignment topic; it seems I side mainly with the Democratic Party and the Green Party candidates. I don't know much about most political issues, nor do I know anything about the US domestic living, so I just answered what it seemed right at the moment. I didn't know there were other political parties in the race, the media doesn't seem to give them any breathing space.

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

I'm not from the United States, i should say, i'm from Brazil.

I don't think socialist parties or candidates are the answer for the USA right now, just shine a little light on what the PT has been doing here in Brazil in the last 16 years, these people ruined the country, and now with Dilma Rousseff out of charge, i'm feeling a little more safe, i just hope that they get Temer out too, make a new election, hopefully get a nice, conservative, capitalist president in the house.

What a opportunity brazilians lost, they should have elected Enéas Carneiro way back when he was still alive, this wouldn't have happened...

I see.

 

The corporate takeover of Brazil's political and legislative body is a good thing to you?  Really?

 

Why are you spewing this crap out at us?  Is it an attempt to see how many stupid people are here?  These are not your thoughts, so vague; so wrong.

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He's right about the breaking up the big banks, auditing the Fed, and fixing our broken system.

 

Not right when it comes to democratic socialism when we as a nation already owe so much debt and rely heavily on creditor nations to continue on buying treasury bills. When you have no manufacturing to go to and the bills are dumped into the market, you get a currency currency you cannot recover from because of high trade deficits and inflation. 

 

Whenever there has been a currency crisis, the next person in place takes hold with another strong currency that is backed by a solid asset like gold or petroleum. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

 

I'm aware Bernie wants to continue capitalism but extend socialist policies to medicare, social security, and education. You think the military industrial complex would allow that? It's a system a leader cannot fix, but only its people that live in it. Get rid of the banksters and crony capitalism.

 

As for foreign policy, we should stop with all regime change policies and end our relationship with terrorist nations like Israel and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is predicted to be bankrupt by 2022 anyway and Israel relies on foreign aid.

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He's really inspiring to listen to, that's for sure. I mean he just sounds very dedicated to his constituents.

 

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On 4/15/2016 at 11:10 PM, spwath said:

But stupid Americans won't let it happen.

your damn signature made me think my monitor image was burning in. 

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19 minutes ago, Tocsin_786 said:

your damn signature made me think my monitor image was burning in. 

Huh? How?

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14 minutes ago, spwath said:

Huh? How?

in dark theme mode the words are a very dark grey. So it looks like my monitor is messed up. 

 

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Inside USA policy pretty good but his foriegn policy.. well that just makes me mad.

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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2 minutes ago, Tocsin_786 said:

in dark theme mode the words are a very dark grey. So it looks like my monitor is messed up. 

 

 

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Fixed

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On 4/14/2016 at 5:28 PM, SamStrecker said:

Socialist ideas will not work or go through in america. They just won't. People will have protests on new bills passed and nothing will get done. In a perfect world communism is the best way to rule a country but corruption has always ruined it 

hell yeah its the best way, but no one knows becase they all think its bad becase of how stalin handled it. if its done right thats the way to go, but honestly i wish obama could run again he's better than anyone else right now 

 

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4 minutes ago, spwath said:

Fixed

oh i didn't want you to go through the trouble of fixing it. I was just point it out cuz it made me freak out:)

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4 minutes ago, Tocsin_786 said:

oh i didn't want you to go through the trouble of fixing it. I was just point it out cuz it made me freak out:)

Wasnt that hard. Just remove formating.

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19 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

hell yeah its the best way, but no one knows becase they all think its bad becase of how stalin handled it. if its done right thats the way to go, but honestly i wish obama could run again he's better than anyone else right now 

Well there is that john or whatever his name is as an independent. Seems like the best option out of the three

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Well there is that john or whatever his name is as an independent. Seems like the best option out of the three

independents will never win, and we dont even get the pick who is next that part is an illusion, the electoral colleges pick for us are votes have no influence 

 

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5 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

independents will never win, and we dont even get the pick who is next that part is an illusion, the electoral colleges pick for us are votes have no influence 

Very true. I think nothing constructive will get accomplished if any of them get elected 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Very true. I think nothing constructive will get accomplished if any of them get elected 

well thats not true, trump will build a wall thats "constructive" :P 

 

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17 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Well there is that john or whatever his name is as an independent. Seems like the best option out of the three

Gary Johnson is a much better pick than Clinton or Trump.  I would still go with Sanders over Johnson though.  Here is the dirty little secret in America, free market capitalism sucks ass when it is not regulated.  Government oversight of business practices is a must.

 

@SamStrecker

 

Here is a recent interview:

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/27/why_did_the_former_republican_gov

 

Go back farther in the interview.  Johnson talks about a direct comparison between Sanders and himself.

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4 minutes ago, GreezyJeezy said:

independents will never win, and we dont even get the pick who is next that part is an illusion, the electoral colleges pick for us are votes have no influence 

Vote where your heart is. Is the system rigged? Yes. The parties have created a sort of duo-opoly. That doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for what you believe as an individual. Life sucks like that sometimes, but I would rather die knowing I stood for what I thought was righteous the whole time even if I lost every battle I ever fought. To do otherwise I feel would show poor character and character is something money cannot buy.

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2 minutes ago, Okjoek said:

Vote where your heart is. Is the system rigged? Yes. The parties have created a sort of duo-opoly. That doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for what you believe as an individual. Life sucks like that sometimes, but I would rather die knowing I stood for what I thought was righteous the whole time even if I lost every battle I ever fought. To do otherwise I feel would show poor character and character is something money cannot buy.

in this election any vote is really bad imo

 

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