Anthrax 7.0 - Mostly Whoosh With A Bit Of Sploosh

[TheProfosist]

Update: #006

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On that note I would like some feedback on something that I was planning on doing on my previous build. Please note the corsair fans will be replaced with noctua's if I choose to do this. Also I had to piece together two pictures to make the first one as I only had one cooler. The ram that is there is also from my previous build and is just in there for mockup. This is not an official update but will lead to at least one, if not more.

 

 

 

 

I have a bunch of updates that will be coming soon! But things have been a busy and im still trying to get the final bits together.

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[TheProfosist]

I think I might have for gotten to state what I wanted feedback on. Im wondering if I should mod and install some ram coolers or not, yes this is based for the most part on looks.

[Serbian_Souljah]

Nice build, but no i would recommend against RAM Coolers. Two reasons 1) Ram does not get hot (Unless you throw a heap of Voltage through them)  2) RAM Coolers are ugly. They just make the build seem too cramped.

[Fahrenheit]

Might be just be but it looks like a 60mm rad will fit in the front of that case if you put the fans outside the case 

[TheProfosist]

Nice build, but no i would recommend against RAM Coolers. Two reasons 1) Ram does not get hot (Unless you throw a heap of Voltage through them)  2) RAM Coolers are ugly. They just make the build seem too cramped.

 

Like I said it would be mostly for looks. I dont know if you can tell but the case is actually quite cramped already and thats why I thought they worked ascetically.

 

 

 

Might be just be but it looks like a 60mm rad will fit in the front of that case if you put the fans outside the case 

 

Maybe but then you couldnt put the front of the case back on? Also im using a Swiftech H320 so I didnt have much of a input on the size of my rad which is fine with me. Its 80mm thick right now with the 2 fans and rad. There is just under 1/2in from the back of the graphics cards to the grils if that helps at all.

[TheProfosist]

I have decided to go forward with the ram coolers because I felt that in person like it filled it in since its already quite cramped. The picture, due to the angle I needed to use, just feels 2D and doesnt give off the same vibe. And I mean it cant hurt to have more noctua's right?

 

Let me know what you think!

[AxelPeeters]

The cpu came in a nice box nice build though I love that some people are buying the sabertooth instead of rampage IV extreme

[Shahriar Mahmood]

More pics please.

what camera + lens?

This is the Camera he is using Link and the prime lens Link

[Shahriar Mahmood]

Looking forward to seeing more ! 

[alpenwasser]

That board fits really nicely with the Noctuas IMO. One thing I would

definitely change if it was my rig is shorten the tubes on the H320

and flip the radiator around so that the tubes don't cross your entire

compartment. And maybe see if something can be done to route the cable

going to the CPU block a bit more neatly (i.e. along the case panels),

but it's difficult to tell if that's possible from here.

Still, pretty nice overall.

[TheProfosist]

Update: #007

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The cpu came in a nice box nice build though I love that some people are buying the sabertooth instead of rampage IV extreme

 

What you like the big dent in it? The good thing is that the CPU is way on the opposite side, so no problems. I dont see why you would get a rampage really unless your hobby is overclocking or your an extreme overclocker.

 

 

 

This is the Camera he is using Link and the prime lens Link

 

Yep those would be them except I bought my camera as a refurb direct from Canon and I swear my lens at $150 or less off amazon when I bought it. I also bought the lens hood and a clear protector for it (instead of a UV filter).

 

 

 

Looking forward to seeing more ! 

 

Thanks, I cant wait to get more done. I need more time so i can get my desktop back!

 

 

 

That board fits really nicely with the Noctuas IMO. One thing I would

definitely change if it was my rig is shorten the tubes on the H320

and flip the radiator around so that the tubes don't cross your entire

compartment. And maybe see if something can be done to route the cable

going to the CPU block a bit more neatly (i.e. along the case panels),

but it's difficult to tell if that's possible from here.

Still, pretty nice overall.

 

I cant flip the rad sadly there isnt enough room so I couldnt use the mounting holes already in the case.

 

After you sad that though I had an idea!

 

 

What if I route the tubes the tubes through here:

 

 

 

then out of the the two grommets on either side here:

 

 

 

How easy would this be to do with the H320 though and what would I have to buy to do it?

 

 

Edit: I forgot, I would also turn the pump/waterblock into the upright position with the tubes on the right and left. Then turn them up toward the grommets.

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[TheProfosist]

O and I forgot thanks for all the feedback and help so far guys!

[alpenwasser]

I cant flip the rad sadly there isnt enough room so I couldnt use the mounting holes already in the case.

 

After you sad that though I had an idea!

 

 

What if I route the tubes the tubes through here:

 

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then out of the the two grommets on either side here:

 

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How easy would this be to do with the H320 though and what would I have to buy to do it?

 

 

Edit: I forgot, I would also turn the pump/waterblock into the upright position with the tubes on the right and left. Then turn them up toward the grommets.

Ah, I see. I do like your alternative plan. Assuming the existing

tubes are not long enough to accomplish this, I would say you need

new tubing and some coolant.

[TheProfosist]

Ah, I see. I do like your alternative plan. Assuming the existing

tubes are not long enough to accomplish this, I would say you need

new tubing and some coolant.

 

I think itll look much cleaner and the tubes going up through the grommets will look good. Also there wont be anything in the way of the GFX cards which will be nice looking and I do have lighting  I plan to add. Also I do plan to upgrade the GPUs once Nvidia has some new feature that might prompt me to upgrade and that will make it easier to do so. When I do that i may even water cool the GFX cards if the H320 could handle it.

 

Yea the current tubes barely make it the way they are and if you look at the first picture they are actually pushing against the HDD cage in the bottom.

 

Yes I have found and plan to get the same coolant. Will one bottle be enough? Do you think I should get the same tubing as well or should I look at the PrimoFlex that Linus has recommended in some of his videos. The tubing the H320 uses is 5/8" x 3/8" (16/10mm) so this should be the right stuff. If you think any other colors would be better than black you can see all the ones they have here.

 

I found a video I bookmarked when I bought the H220 (that I never used). It shows how to add another piece to the loop. My concern after watching it is they say not to touch the inlet side which I am going to have to do. The one thing I did note in the comments in that the reservoir should be at the top like I have it.

 

[TheProfosist]

From a bit of research that I just did this is the best stuff I could get for tubing Tygon A-60-G Norprene 3/8" ID (5/8" OD) - Industrial Grade Thermoplastic Elastomer Tubing. It even says that Swiftech uses it in the description and from their website their tubing isnt only design for water cooling a PC.

[alpenwasser]

Yeah you could go with Primochill tubing as well, I just found Swiftech's

own stuff and linked to that. As for colour, I think black would work best,

but that's just my opinion.

On Swiftech's site, it states the reservoir by itself on the H320 has a capacity

of 90 cc. I'm not entirely sure how much coolant the entire system needs, but

you could always ask Swiftech's tech support, I'm sure they'd be happy to help

you, and any info you get from them would be much more reliable than any of

my guesses.

As for the inlet issue: I didn't watch the entire video, but from skimming

through it I picked up that they primarily don't recommend adding another

element between the radiator and the inlet, which actually makes sense. A

W/C pump can't suck coolant in, so when you're filling the loop the coolant

needs to be able to flow into the pump through gravity, which becomes very

difficult if there's not a direct connection between reservoir (which in

this case is in the radiator) and the pump inlet.

So when you do change the tubing, just make sure that coolant has flowed

into the pump block before switching it on and you should be fine (that's

how we do it with custom loops, I don't see a reason for this situation

to be different).

EDIT:

Norprene tubing is awesome, yup!

[TheProfosist]

Yeah you could go with Primochill tubing as well, I just found Swiftech's

own stuff and linked to that. As for colour, I think black would work best,

but that's just my opinion.

On Swiftech's site, it states the reservoir by itself on the H320 has a capacity

of 90 cc. I'm not entirely sure how much coolant the entire system needs, but

you could always ask Swiftech's tech support, I'm sure they'd be happy to help

you, and any info you get from them would be much more reliable than any of

my guesses.

As for the inlet issue: I didn't watch the entire video, but from skimming

through it I picked up that they primarily don't recommend adding another

element between the radiator and the inlet, which actually makes sense. A

W/C pump can't suck coolant in, so when you're filling the loop the coolant

needs to be able to flow into the pump through gravity, which becomes very

difficult if there's not a direct connection between reservoir (which in

this case is in the radiator) and the pump inlet.

So when you do change the tubing, just make sure that coolant has flowed

into the pump block before switching it on and you should be fine (that's

how we do it with custom loops, I don't see a reason for this situation

to be different).

EDIT:

Norprene tubing is awesome, yup!

 

I think im going to get the Norprene stuff since from what ive been reading its the best option minus the fact that it kink a bit easier than the primochill.

 

Yea I think Ill contact them about that since I have no real way of knowing.

 

Thanks that actually makes a bunch of sense, I guess i should have thought about it a bit. I assumed it had to do something with getting the liquid to the pump but didnt really know why. I may ask about this as well when I contact them about the coolant.

 

The one thing I just thought of is that the outlets from the rad/res are going to be quite a bit lower than the pump is that going to be an issue when filling it?

[alpenwasser]

I think im going to get the Norprene stuff since from what ive been reading its the best option minus the fact that it kink a bit easier than the primochill.

I don't have any personal experience with it, but from what I've

heard it's really nice stuff. I plan on getting some when I have

a use for it.

 

Yea I think Ill contact them about that since I have no real way of knowing.

 

Thanks that actually makes a bunch of sense, I guess i should have thought about it a bit. I assumed it had to do something with getting the liquid to the pump but didnt really know why. I may ask about this as well when I contact them about the coolant.

Good idea, that's what tech support is for, after all.

 

The one thing I just thought of is that the outlets from the rad/res are going to be quite a bit lower than the pump is that going to be an issue when filling it?

Yes, that will probably be an issue when filling it. The fluid usually

needs to flow from the res to the pump by gravity, which won't work in

this case. However, you should be able to tilt your rig the right way

so it will still work I think.

Alternatively, you could try routing the tubing through all openings where

it will need to go through, but not attach the pump and/or radiator to the

M/B and/or the case yet. This might allow you to change positions of those

two components relative to each other during the filling process.

It's definitely something to consider, but shouldn't be an insurmountable

obstacle.

[TheProfosist]

I don't have any personal experience with it, but from what I've

heard it's really nice stuff. I plan on getting some when I have

a use for it.

 

Good idea, that's what tech support is for, after all.

 

Yes, that will probably be an issue when filling it. The fluid usually

needs to flow from the res to the pump by gravity, which won't work in

this case. However, you should be able to tilt your rig the right way

so it will still work I think.

Alternatively, you could try routing the tubing through all openings where

it will need to go through, but not attach the pump and/or radiator to the

M/B and/or the case yet. This might allow you to change positions of those

two components relative to each other during the filling process.

It's definitely something to consider, but shouldn't be an insurmountable

obstacle.

 

Tipping the case on its side with the pump mounted on the CPU should work if I leave a bit of slack in the tubing so that I can pick up the rad and hold it higher up than the pump this should allow a siphon to for and fill the pump. Ill be posting on swiftech's support forum about this soonishly.

[alpenwasser]

Sound like a plan. Best of luck!

[TheProfosist]

Sound like a plan. Best of luck!

 

Thanks and thanks for all the help. Ill report back when I hear more. Also expect some updates this weekend hopefully as I have had pics on my PC for sometime I just havnt had the time to get stuff together and post.

[Demonking]

Damn got enough cooling yet.

[TheProfosist]

Damn got enough cooling yet.

 

There is never enough cooling!

[TheProfosist]

Update: #008

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After looking at the remaining parts that have been ordered and the ones coming back from RMA it seems the earliest that I am going to have all the parts to finalize the build would be the beginning of next week (~7th). I really would prefer to have the new and refurbished parts that I have received tested before then and wouldnt mind even a half working desktop also. With that in mind I have put together everything that is ready so far for the most part. I had to got grab my only other 2011 cooler (H80) and pop it in but itll do for now. So here you have the almost finalized temporary rig.

 

 

 

 

 

Is it bad that I have to keep telling my self: "Its only temporary, its only temporary"?

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[TheProfosist]

Just noticed, sorry about the not so good photos I took them just as I was quitting for the day and really didnt take my time as I kinda just wanted photos to go with the update.