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Do you think the Steam Machine was a failure? 

 

I think the Steam Machine was a failure because they were too many configuration options.  If there was one option priced at $500 that came with a controller it would make sense. The OS is still basically beta there are some issues i can think of when I think steam machine.

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The Steam machine is a failure in my eyes as well. I personally think they were a bad idea. 

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think of a fresh chocolate chip cookie mad by gaben. think of how good that cookie looks "oh" you think "gaben is so good at giving me games to play he must be good at baking" then he hands you the cookie, but when you bite into it its a goddamn no good communist raisin cookie. that is how i feel about the steam machine. 

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24 minutes ago, LittleCarrot said:

Do you think the Steam Machine was a failure? 

 

I think the Steam Machine was a failure because they were too many configuration options.  If there was one option priced at $500 that came with a controller it would make sense. The OS is still basically beta there are some issues i can think of when I think steam machine.

The alienware steam machine does sell for $500 USD and has a controller, and they make a windows version of it, just get a cheap third party controller to go with it.

 

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2 hours ago, SLAYR said:

The alienware steam machine does sell for $500 USD and has a controller, and they make a windows version of it, just get a cheap third party controller to go with it.

 

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ha! o know its not actually terrible. all im saying is that the way they marketed it made it seem like a console (though we knew it wasnt)  that was capable of handling games with pc visuals, but all we got in the end was a pc with steam os on it. it was kinda a let down.   

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Someone asked me years ago about the steam machine, back when valve were first talking about it. I said that I thought it would never succeed, and I still stand by that answer. Consoles by their very nature depend on millions of units sold, so that game developers pursue a particular hardware configuration and maximize its potential. Like @LittleCarrot aptly put it, they should have stuck with a single configuration, and then work their arses off to iron out the OS so that it would appeal to millions of consumers. Right now the Steam Machine has about as much appeal to pc gamers as an xbox controller that has buttons made of upward-pointing rusty thumbtacks.

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Just now, Bigheart said:

ha! o know its not actually terrible. all im saying is that the way they marketed it made it seem like a console (though we knew it wasnt)  that was capable of handling games with pc visuals, but all we got in the end was a pc with steam os on it. it was kinda a let down.   

Yeah the steam OS was probabbly the worst part of the whole system since it couldn't do anything besides play games on steam, basically ripping out all of the other functions that make a pc useful outside gaming.

 

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19 hours ago, IsaacDaGrazin said:

have you ever had carrot cake?

No, you can give me an amazon gift card and I can order one.

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The steam machines were the catalyst for the industrial revolution, which ultimately lead to the exponential increase in technological advancement that still continues today. I'd say that was a huge success.

 

Oh, the little console-PC half breeds with awful specs? Yeah, dey's bad.

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On 4/7/2016 at 0:07 AM, Bigheart said:

 it its a goddamn no good communist raisin cookie. 

that made me giggle :3

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Me thinks there's a couple reasons why it failed

(1) Had, what felt like, dozens of manufacturers. Each with multiple tiers of steam machines from a few hundred to full high end gaming PC pricing. The fact it had a free os on it and not windows didn't matter for pricing for w/e reason.

(3) Release windows between Valve and their machine makers didn't match up. You had alienware releasing steam machines on time but with xbox 360 controllers because the steam controller kept getting delayed.

(2) Beta OS that was/is poop. At some of those prices people would be better off buying a windows PC.

(3) Crap controller that went through so many versions, then was delayed, then was released and it was a hot mess. 

(4) more stuff I'm currently forgetting.

 

In the end most people fell in two camps. Side 1, just buy a console for lower price and be confident in it's support and game library. Or side 2, shell out a little more money and get a full PC w/ Windows for gaming and more.

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Just like GeekJump said, the main reasons for failure were:

 

 

1: Too many manufacturers. Valve should have made a contact with just 1 or 2 manufacturers who would make 2 or 3 tiers of the box.

2: The boxes came too early. Should have waited until the controller is ready and out and until SteamOS is good enough to be used.

3: Lack of game support

4: Lack of drivers from NVidia whose gpus they mostly use/used. Without proper drivers, the performance on the hardware is horrible.

 

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If there was one single configuration for the steam machines, what gpu do you think it would have?

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1 hour ago, LittleCarrot said:

If there was one single configuration for the steam machines, what gpu do you think it would have?

depends. current GPU's or upcoming Pascal/Polaris? Word on the street says that AMD might actually win on efficiency this time (and not just because 14nm vs 16nm), so it would probably come down to linux drivers and Vulkan support.

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I feel like the target for the steam machine wasn't consoles it was Windows.   And on that front it also failed (but not by as much).  Gabe has been very vocal in his disdain for Windows Store and Windows Gaming.  But adoption of Linux is laughably small so there is no game support.  The steam machine was supposed to increase the user base for linux gaming by providing a "user friendly" linux. The increased user base would entice game designers to support it on more titles.  And Windows would go cry in a corner.   And while they made some headway I would argue not enough.

 

Honestly Valves biggest problem was the lack of a flagship game.  They needed a flagship game or experience, it didn't need to be exclusive but it needed to be new and designed around SteamOS, but I think they stopped being a game developer years ago.

 

That said it is a long life cycle in both hardware driver support and game design.  So there is still some hope for Linux Gaming... but not a lot.  

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22 hours ago, LittleCarrot said:

If there was one single configuration for the steam machines, what gpu do you think it would have?

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On 4/7/2016 at 0:20 AM, SLAYR said:

Yeah the steam OS was probabbly the worst part of the whole system since it couldn't do anything besides play games on steam, basically ripping out all of the other functions that make a pc useful outside gaming.

That was the point. The pitch for steam machines was to bring pc gaming to the living room, a console experience with pc games. They succeeded on the concept, but I'd agree they failed to deliver.

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No just linux support

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