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AMD Zen 8 core engineering sample runs at 3GHz

Doobeedoo
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So as far as engineering samples, they've already been distributed to various partners for testing these chips, which is reasonable since projected release for Zen. AM4 mobos are also sampling obviously.

So and 8 core CPU in 95W thermal envelope with base frequency of 3GHz, boost not mentioned yet.

 

As far as 14Nm LPP process, I would expect higher clock for this CPU on it. In article it's also stated that release Zen will certainly clock higher. 

Look at FX-8300 with 95W TDP clocks 3.3 base, 3.6 full turbo, 4.2 half turbo and it's an 8-core. It's also 32nm part. Therefore expecting Zen to have high frequency is justifiable.

 

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http://www.eteknix.com/amd-zen-8core-engineering-sample-leaked/

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AMD said the flagship highest end Zen parts will have 95 watt TDP.

 

we have no idea about the TDP of this engineering sample part or where it fits in the product line up.

 

even with the massive ipc gains AMD will need to clock above 3.5Ghz on the top parts in order to compete with Intel so let's hope Zen clocks well.

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if IPC is higher, though, 3GHz might be better at lower voltage

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Zen can't come soon enough.

 

I am trying not to get my hopes but, but I really want them to succeed. Hopefully the release chips will be clocked higher than 3GHz. It would suck if AMD managed to boost their IPC by 40% just to have it ruined by low clocks.

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8 minutes ago, Doobeedoo said:

As far as 14Nm LPP process, I would expect higher clock for this CPU on it. In article it's also stated that release Zen will certainly clock higher. 

Look at FX-8300 with 95W TDP clocks 3.3 base, 3.6 full turbo, 4.2 half turbo and it's an 8-core. It's also 32nm part. Therefore expecting Zen to have high frequency is justifiable.

The fastest 8-core Broadwell-EP chip has a base clock of 2.6 GHz (on a 135W TDP). You can't compare with the FX CPUs since they use CMT rather than SMT, and have far lower IPC.

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3 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Zen can't come soon enough.

 

I am trying not to get my hopes but, but I really want them to succeed. Hopefully the release chips will be clocked higher than 3GHz. It would suck if AMD managed to boost their IPC by 40% just to have it ruined by low clocks.

it will still easily beat their existing parts like the fx-8350. But ya to compete with intel on the performance parts they probably want at least 3.5Ghz - 3.8Ghz. On the more affordable parts 3Ghz should be fine..

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2 minutes ago, Humbug said:

it will still easily beat their existing parts like the fx-8350. But ya to compete with intel on the performance parts they probably want at least 3.5Ghz - 3.8Ghz. On the more affordable parts 3Ghz should be fine..

Seems a bit ridiculous to expect their engineering samples on a probably inferior process to clock higher than Intel chips with much higher TDP.

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even though the base clock might be 3.0ghz , remember that says nothing about the clocks it can achieve . If AMd has to stick to 3ghz  in order to stay in that 95W envelope inorder to "look good" , but if they can achive the kind of clocks their current cpus can , then this won't be a problem. Remember the 5960x comes at 3.0ghz stock  , but can easily do 4.2ghz+. 

 

I just hope AMD doesn't screw this up...

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

This title is like AMD selling their chips. GHZ IS NOT EVERYTHING! There are a lot of other factors

What do you want me to name it then -.-
It's just an updated news about already other flying around. It's also noted that it's an engineering sample. 

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Just now, Doobeedoo said:

What do you want me to name it then -.-
It's just an updated news about already other flying around. It's also noted that it's an engineering sample. 

News Update on Zen or something

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

News Update on Zen or something

Because stating frequency, since it's unknown, is a bad thing cause it's not everything as far as how it will perform?

No, I keep it as is :D

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I'll wait for more final samples. 

 

I'm also curious if AMD will brand any ddr4 RAM like the r7 gamer RAM I have. 

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I sort of hope that AMD can bump that base clock up a little bit because people don't realize that GHz doesn't tell the whole story.

Multi-threaded and Single Threaded IPC are very important that's why an underclocked or lower clocked Intel CPU will still tend to do better than a higher clocked AMD CPU/APU.

 

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While I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, many of you scoffed when I said AMD would have a very difficult time of pulling off the clockspeeds of Vishera in a 95W TDP with dedicated FPU and vector units per core. This should have been the expectation from the beginning for the realistic.

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4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

While I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, many of you scoffed when I said AMD would have a very difficult time of pulling off the clockspeeds of Vishera in a 95W TDP with dedicated FPU and vector units per core. This should have been the expectation from the beginning for the realistic.

I think it's a given that it won't clock like Vishera... which people regularly overclock to like 4.7Ghz.

 

But personally I am hoping that AMD can achieve about 3.7Ghz stock on the top end first gen Zen parts, hopefully overclocking to about 4.2Ghz.

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5 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

While I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, many of you scoffed when I said AMD would have a very difficult time of pulling off the clockspeeds of Vishera in a 95W TDP with dedicated FPU and vector units per core. This should have been the expectation from the beginning for the realistic.

But as the article explains, this is actually higher clocked than Vishera engineering samples.

 

Edit: Whoops, Bulldozer. But still.

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11 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

While I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, many of you scoffed when I said AMD would have a very difficult time of pulling off the clockspeeds of Vishera in a 95W TDP with dedicated FPU and vector units per core. This should have been the expectation from the beginning for the realistic.

It's not totally unreasonable to expect an extra 800 to 900MHz extra on that base clock so that consumers can hopefully not make a big fuss over a 100MHz base clock difference, where I could see someone comparing an i7 6700K to a Zen FX and seeing that the i7 has a base clock of 4.0GHz where as the FX would a full 1GHz lower but the FX could be cheaper and perform about the same or better than the i7.

 

Though I guess I should add in that, it certainly shouldn't be expected to OC like the Bulldozer/Piledriver/Steamroller/Excavator series of FX CPUs but that's not a huge deal breaker (at least I wouldn't think it would be).

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I remember Skylake early engineering samples running at 2.6 GHz... so we can't say much about final clocks.

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8 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Then came the 9xxx series, for overclockers, which was kinda a mistake.  The 8320=9370 & 8350=9590 just factory OCed.  On one hand you're getting more speed, but on the other hand they did kinda waste money on that.  The 9xxx chips were nice for their target, and ya I did buy one, but at the same time they lost more money on that than they made for "higher clock speeds".

They wanted that, "5Ghz 9590 all day, all the time" trophy.  Hopefully if Zen is a success, it will breathe life in to AMD and rocket them forward.  If Zen is a flop--hopefully it will flop as hard as it possibly can.

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3 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

They wanted that, "5Ghz 9590 all day, all the time" trophy.  Hopefully if Zen is a success, it will breathe life in to AMD and rocket them forward.  If Zen is a flop--hopefully it will flop as hard as it possibly can.

And if they are smart plus if Zen and Polaris are a success, if they don't make all of their APUs with Zen cores and Polaris cores then...*facepalm*

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23 minutes ago, Agost said:

I remember Skylake early engineering samples running at 2.6 GHz... so we can't say much about final clocks.

Those were I3s mind you.

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21 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

And if they are smart plus if Zen and Polaris are a success, if they don't make all of their APUs with Zen cores and Polaris cores then...*facepalm*

But if it somehow flops--hopefully it crashes and burns as hard as it possibly can, so their divisions can split to Intel and nVidia and we can get some real competition.

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19 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Those were I3s mind you.

Yes, but current Skylake i3s are clocked 1 GHz higher.

So we could expect higher frequencies on this 8 core Zen CPU... or we could not. That's nothing but speculation.

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