NVIDIA 16nm Pascal Powered GeForce GTX 1080 could be Launching in May

[ozziestig]

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NVIDIA is on the verge of launching their first 16nm FinFET based products featuring the highest performance and power efficiency to date. Pascal which is the name of their upcoming GPU architecture is built from ground up to deliver not only the best gaming performance but also the best compute performance. NVIDIA is going to present their Pascal GPUs at GTC 2016 but it seems like we already have a hint at when the consumer variant will be launching as Benchlife reports that NVIDIA is prepping the GeForce GTX 1080 for launch in May.

Seems like Nvidia wants to beat AMD in releasing the next generation of GPUS.

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We have long been awaiting to learn some information on the Pascal GPUs regarding which NVIDIA has kept really silent but it seems like the company is getting ready for a big showcase at GTC 2016. NVIDIA’s CEO, Jen Hsun Huang himself will deliver the opening keynote of GTC and present not only their latest 16nm FinFET architecture but the corresponding cards that utilize the Pascal GPUs.

Hopefully this will be an actual GP100 or GP104 card not like at CES where they showed a 900 series MX gpu.

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There are some significant details in the mentioned report which state that NVIDIA’s GP104 based Pascal cards will feature up to 8 GB GDDR5 memory. This brings the memory capacity to the same amount as AMD’s current Radeon R9 390 series graphics cards which are hit among the public for their great price to performance value. The report says that GDDR5 is the memory standard to be used on the GP104 series cards and there remains a possibility where AIBs can start shipping higher performance GDDR5X chips based cards later on since Micron is expected to start mass production in Summer of 2016.

Definitely seems like Nvidia is trying to push this out of the door but at least eventually we will see GDDR5X cards later. It also seems that this card is aimed at higher resolutions with that 8GB of memory.

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Other details that are mentioned suggest that the GeForce GTX 1080 will be shipping on 27th May which is just a few days before Computex so its probable that NVIDIA may host a Pre-Computex event to display their Pascal consumer variants. The reference variants will feature 2 Display Port, 1 HDMI and a single DVI display output. The custom models are said to start shipping in June so AIBs will have a great chance to showcase their new products at Computex 2016.

So on or about the 27th of May we will see an influx of tech reviews on the GTX 1080. At least there still rocking the DVI port.

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We are expected to see a single 8-Pin power connector on the GP104 cards. Pascal is known to deliver more than 2x the performance per watt of Maxwell. Maxwell itself was NVIDIA’s bet on power efficiency and it turned out really well for the company, Pascal is further going to take NVIDIA’s lead in the efficiency department which has been their strongest suit since Kepler GPU in 2012.

HOLY $H!T, I know AMD did it first with the nano 'a high end graphics card powerd by a single 8 pin' but still, I hope AMDs Polaris well be about the same efficiency.

 

 

So it seems that Nvidia has been very active about Pascal, I can't wait till the 27th of May.

 

Source:http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-geforce-gtx-1080-gp104-gpu/

[Sakkura]

I still doubt it will be called GTX 1080. I think 1800 is more likely. 

[ozziestig]

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

I still doubt it will be called GTX 1080. I think 1800 is more likely. 

What about "GTX 980²" or "GTX 980^16nm"

[Minsekt]

i dont really care about pascal until the big cards arrive.

[X1XNobleX1X]

Title is a little misleading, 

 

 

Should be "Nvidia 16mm Pascal powered Geforce GTX 1080 may be launching in May.

[ozziestig]

3 minutes ago, X1XNobleX1X said:

Title is a little misleading, 

 

 

Should be "Nvidia 16mm Pascal powered Geforce GTX 1080 may be launching in May.

Ok it is a little misleading but hay is an actual date for something.

[X1XNobleX1X]

7 minutes ago, ozziestig said:

Ok it is a little misleading but hay is an actual date for something.

 

 

That actually doesn't sound right.

Should be   "Nvidia 16mm Pascal powered Geforce GTX 1080 could be launching in May. " Sorry

 

 

I doubt it will be much of a performance increase as they're mostly focusing on efficiency and compute performance.

[Lethal Seraph]

I'll have to see it and check the benchmarks before I'll jump on the gun. Yay for AMD keeping the competition alive!

[ozziestig]

9 minutes ago, X1XNobleX1X said:

I doubt it will be much of a performance increase as they're mostly focusing on efficiency and compute performance.

Yeah Nvidia has said many times that Pascal is a compute powerhouse, but still it is a node shrink so there is that.

[X1XNobleX1X]

Just now, ozziestig said:

Yeah Nvidia has said many times that Pascal is a compute powerhouse, but still it is a node shrink so there is that.

Even if it's a minimal performance boost, I will jump on them right away.

 

The reduction of power consumption is a plus.

 

 

Also, the fact that I doubt that 980tis will hold their value in two years for Volta. 

[DXMember]

1 hour ago, ozziestig said:

 

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We are expected to see a single 8-Pin power connector on the GP104 cards. Pascal is known to deliver more than 2x the performance per watt of Maxwell. Maxwell itself was NVIDIA’s bet on power efficiency and it turned out really well for the company, Pascal is further going to take NVIDIA’s lead in the efficiency department which has been their strongest suit since Kepler GPU in 2012.

 

HOLY $H!T, I know AMD did it first with the nano 'a high end graphics card powerd by a single 8 pin' but still, I hope AMDs Polaris well be about the same efficiency

umm... what??
a single 8-pin (150W) IS two 6-pins (75W+75W) which maxwell 980 and 970 cards have

also they've backed away from Pascal = Maxwel x10 claim

they still have 2x PPW in that story so

I expect about 980 SLI performance for that or bust !!!!

[Misanthrope]

We'd have to have a Titan pascal right now otherwise they'd be off their usual pattern.

 

Also:

 

Spoiler

WCCF

 

[Mystic Mistro]

I may be wrong but who really uses DVI? Most i know personally use DP or HDMI. I would much prefer the high end cards '1080' and the pascal titan equivalent to just have DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. With a layout like the AMD fury nano....I mean single slot glory anyone!? 

 

I understand it will have a duel slot cooler but for those who water-cool (most likely to be doing so on the top tier cards... 'titan', '1080'and '1070') single slot would be nice ! 

[ThreePinkApples]

We won't se DP1.4 in this years cards, the standard has just been released. It's 1.3 this year (as AMD has already announced from their part), then 1.4 next year probably. 

[jasonvp]

8 minutes ago, aerandir92 said:

We won't se DP1.4 in this years cards, the standard has just been released. It's 1.3 this year (as AMD has already announced from their part), then 1.4 next year probably. 

Correct.  And I agree with Mystic: WTF are they still dragging around DVI?  Chuck it in the trash where it belongs, and we can have a single-slot backplate on our big cards (assuming the OEM cooler is removed and water cooling added).  3 DP1.3 ports and an HDMI (because, HDMI is also still important... /sarcasm) should be good.  It'll all fit in one slot.

[Thony]

Very very interesting. 

 

I would love to finay upgrade my GPU.

 

The only problems I see here so far is how they are going to go about GDDR5 and GDDR5X cards. 

 

It wouldn't make much sense to ship two memory versions for same GPUs. 

Maybe new Titan and 1080ti will have GDDR5X. 

 

Or maybe they will do two memory version (just like there are 2gb and 4gb versions of 960).

[Notional]

2 hours ago, ozziestig said:

Definitely seems like Nvidia is trying to push this out of the door but at least eventually we will see GDDR5X cards later. It also seems that this card is aimed at higher resolutions with that 8GB of memory.

So on or about the 27th of May we will see an influx of tech reviews on the GTX 1080. At least there still rocking the DVI port.

HOLY $H!T, I know AMD did it first with the nano 'a high end graphics card powerd by a single 8 pin' but still, I hope AMDs Polaris well be about the same efficiency.

 

So it seems that Nvidia has been very active about Pascal, I can't wait till the 27th of May.

 

Source:http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-geforce-gtx-1080-gp104-gpu/

Wait, we are going to see GDDR5 on their 970 equivalent? That's disappointing.

 

There are two things, that a somewhat odd:

1. Maxwell's power efficiency was due to them slaughtering compute capabilities, schedulers, etc, making the cards weak in future titles as well as very little futue proof. If Pascal can build on that efficiency, it sounds like they have weak compute and schedulers for async compute too. If so they might not as powerful as people think.
2. Why is there even DVI on there? That was a digital dsub vga replacement from 1999. Let it die already. Monitors today has HDMI or DisplayPort. The latter being mandatory for Gsync. It takes up too much space and makes It impossible to do single PCI port water cooling. So dumb.

Either way, it's going to be an interesting year for graphics. However these sudden rumours about Pascal launch being before Polaris sounds like a desperate reaction from NVidia if true. I think they know they will deliver subpar performance this generation due to weak compute and schedulers in the architecture. Maybe they won't fix that until Volta.

Of course that is speculation, but given Nvidia's track record of planned obsolescence, it wouldn't surprise me. Maxwell is going to crash and burn this year already.

 

1 hour ago, DXMember said:

also they've backed away from Pascal = Maxwel x10 claim

they still have 2x PPW in that story so

#CEOMath.

But seriously, that 10x claim was a joke, that just proved how weak Maxwell really is. We will see that on all titles utilizing DX12/Vulkan async compute in the future.

[VagabondWraith]

Can't wait to see the performance increase over mainstream cards. Should be a decent bump. Still gonna wait for their Ti equivalent which I'm not expecting until next year.

[ozziestig]

13 minutes ago, Notional said:

Wait, we are going to see GDDR5 on their 970 equivalent? That's disappointing.

 

There are two things, that a somewhat odd:

1. Maxwell's power efficiency was due to them slaughtering compute capabilities, schedulers, etc, making the cards weak in future titles as well as very little futue proof. If Pascal can build on that efficiency, it sounds like they have weak compute and schedulers for async compute too. If so they might not as powerful as people think.
2. Why is there even DVI on there? That was a digital dsub vga replacement from 1999. Let it die already. Monitors today has HDMI or DisplayPort. The latter being mandatory for Gsync. It takes up too much space and makes It impossible to do single PCI port water cooling. So dumb.

Either way, it's going to be an interesting year for graphics. However these sudden rumours about Pascal launch being before Polaris sounds like a desperate reaction from NVidia if true. I think they know they will deliver subpar performance this generation due to weak compute and schedulers in the architecture. Maybe they won't fix that until Volta.

Of course that is speculation, but given Nvidia's track record of planned obsolescence, it wouldn't surprise me. Maxwell is going to crash and burn this year already.

Yes The 970 and 980 equivalent will have GDDR5, but once Micron has produced enough chips AIB partners should be able to ship GDDR5x cards.

13 minutes ago, Notional said:

#CEOMath.

#CEOMath not even once.

[Thony]

1 hour ago, Mystic Mistro said:

I may be wrong but who really uses DVI? Most i know personally use DP or HDMI. I would much prefer the high end cards '1080' and the pascal titan equivalent to just have DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. With a layout like the AMD fury nano....I mean single slot glory anyone!? 

 

I understand it will have a duel slot cooler but for those who water-cool (most likely to be doing so on the top tier cards... 'titan', '1080'and '1070') single slot would be nice ! 

I use dvi on both of my monitors. They didn't come with HDMI or dp included in the box. So why buy extra cable to do literally the same thing ?

 

Only a minor majority of people uses VGA and they are still being included even in high end mobos and laptops.

 

That standard won't go away for a long time...

 

Luckily we don't see VGA on GPUs anymore.  I'm sure some manufacturers will start releasing cards with only dp or HDMI I/O

Not every card is going to do that though. 

[ThreePinkApples]

1 hour ago, jasonvp said:

Correct.  And I agree with Mystic: WTF are they still dragging around DVI?  Chuck it in the trash where it belongs, and we can have a single-slot backplate on our big cards (assuming the OEM cooler is removed and water cooling added).  3 DP1.3 ports and an HDMI (because, HDMI is also still important... /sarcasm) should be good.  It'll all fit in one slot.

I think the DVI ports are there only to provide easy compatibility with VGA and HDMI at the same time. But I'd love  DP 1.3 (1.4) and HDMI 2.0a(2.1) only cards, at least in the most high end cards. 

I can't believe there are any monitors out there that has DVI but not HDMI and/or DisplayPort. 

[byalexandr]

3 hours ago, Minsekt said:

i dont really care about pascal until the big cards arrive.

That is a big card, there's only a couple of cards that are going to be higher end than this one.

[byalexandr]

I doubt it's releasing in May. They haven't even announced the exact cards yet, and I think they will do so at GTC. After that I'd say AMD is going to release first this time around summer or so (I think they have something big up their sleeve, yay), and Nvidia the latter half of 2016. Nvidia hasn't even shown a working Pascal card yet, even the card that was in that dumb car thing they're working on was Maxwell.

[Notional]

16 minutes ago, ozziestig said:

Yes The 970 and 980 equivalent will have GDDR5, but once Micron has produced enough chips AIB partners should be able to ship GDDR5x cards.

#CEOMath not even once.

Still disappointing. HBM not only provides a much larger bandwidth, but also uses less power and takes up way less space, making small cards possible. Then again, I have no idea how many Polaris models will utilize HBM. I hope all of them.

[Mystic Mistro]

21 minutes ago, Thony said:

I use dvi on both of my monitors. They didn't come with HDMI or dp included in the box. So why buy extra cable to do literally the same thing ?

 

Only a minor majority of people uses VGA and they are still being included even in high end mobos and laptops.

 

That standard won't go away for a long time...

 

Luckily we don't see VGA on GPUs anymore.  I'm sure some manufacturers will start releasing cards with only dp or HDMI I/O

Not every card is going to do that though. 

Fair enough, i was more getting at why have multiple types of connnecters at all if they all do the same thing