Posted June 29, 2017 Author 51 minutes ago, Max_Settings said: To be honest I am not sure. From what I have heard online, most people say the 600 series sounds better with a warmer tube AMP, but I am not 100% sure. I would advice you to try them first with a tube amp and then a normal solid state amp. Yes it is true that a lot of people like the 600 series more with tube amps, but this is a personal thing. You have about 6 months to find out what you want at least if you joined the current drop. If you get the darkvoice and decide that you don't like them with a tube amp, then you can probably make most of your money back. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 29, 2017 Author 56 minutes ago, TVwazhere said: This seems to be a good thread to ask Looked at many DAC/AMP combos In December and came across this SMSL M6 which had really good reviews. I've had no problems with it and the HD6XX, I just want to make sure I'm not getting an un-optimal experience well it isn't a good value and the HD6xx scale pretty well with higher end gear so you can basically always get more out of them, but what matters is that you are happy with them. I have seen a couple of people with the schiit yggy and feliks audio elise, that is a what a 3.1k setup alone and they said the HD650's never sounded better than they did on that setup. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 30, 2017 15 hours ago, Dackzy said: well it isn't a good value and the HD6xx scale pretty well with higher end gear so you can basically always get more out of them, but what matters is that you are happy with them. I have seen a couple of people with the schiit yggy and feliks audio elise, that is a what a 3.1k setup alone and they said the HD650's never sounded better than they did on that setup. Good to know. Yes so far I'm happy, this being my first forte into serious audiophile grade headphone setups. Perhaps in a few years I'll look into some more quality dacs and amps. Thank you for your input! "Put as much effort into your question as you'd expect someone to give in an answer"- @Princess Luna Make sure to Quote posts or tag the person with @[username] so they know you responded to them! RGB Build Post 2019 --- Rainbow 2020 --- Velka 5 V2.0 Build 2021 Purple Build Post --- Blue Build Post --- Blue Build Post 2018 --- Project ITNOS CPU i7-4790k Motherboard Gigabyte Z97N-WIFI RAM G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1866mhz GPU EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW3 Case Corsair 380T Storage Samsung EVO 250GB, Samsung EVO 1TB, WD Black 3TB, WD Black 5TB PSU Corsair CX750M Cooling Cryorig H7 with NF-A12x25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 30, 2017 Hi! I hope this is a good place to ask. I currently own a HE-500 and my current amp is the fiio e12 which is a portable unit. For dac I'm using a cheap dac from aliexpress which is not half bad for the price - (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/new-HIFI-L-1543-DAC-four-TDA1543-USB-decoder-free-shipping/939205_32577466710.html) Now I'm thinking about getting a proper desktop amp within $100-120. DAC is not an urgency, Which one of the following will go better with my HE-500? 1. Schiit Magni 2 2. Monoprice Desktop Amplifier(MDA) 3. Schiit Fulla 2 Thanks in advance guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 Author 8 hours ago, Ork7O said: 1. Schiit Magni 2 2. Monoprice Desktop Amplifier(MDA) 3. Schiit Fulla 2 Thanks in advance guys. the MDA is best with high impedance headphones. Planar headphones likes to get as much power as you can give them so I would say the magni 2, which also would allow you to upgrade your DAC in the future. The best would be to save up another 230$ and then get a audio gd NFB 11.28, it pairs very well with HE500's. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 what does it mean when people ask how headphones scale with amplification? from the OP it seems like either your headphones are properly powered or they aren't. so does scaling simply mean how well you power your device? and would you be better off with cheaper headphones that you can easily power than headphones that aren't fully scaled? (I hope that makes sense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 Author 7 hours ago, Manchineel said: what does it mean when people ask how headphones scale with amplification? from the OP it seems like either your headphones are properly powered or they aren't. so does scaling simply mean how well you power your device? and would you be better off with cheaper headphones that you can easily power than headphones that aren't fully scaled? (I hope that makes sense) Some headphones show a more clear improvement with better gear, while other don't really care as long as they get enough power. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Manchineel said: what does it mean when people ask how headphones scale with amplification? from the OP it seems like either your headphones are properly powered or they aren't. so does scaling simply mean how well you power your device? and would you be better off with cheaper headphones that you can easily power than headphones that aren't fully scaled? (I hope that makes sense) Usually it's with sensitive headphones or IEM's that get better as the source improves, things like output impedance, Stereo Crosstalk, etc. Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 Author 2 hours ago, Majestic said: Usually it's with sensitive headphones or IEM's that get better as the source improves, things like output impedance, Stereo Crosstalk, etc. that is simply not true, there are plenty of examples of fairly hard to very hard headphones that scale very well Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Dackzy said: that is simply not true, there are plenty of examples of fairly hard to very hard headphones that scale very well "usually" Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 1, 2017 Author Just now, Majestic said: "usually" just wanted to clarify and I have found the word "usually" to be a dangerous word to use around the new people that are just getting into the audio "world" since they often take it as being a 9/10 thing. But we are all good again just wanted to make it clear that there are plenty examples of hard'ish/very hard headphones that scale well Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 2, 2017 thanks for the info. just bought the 6xx and am trying to understand audio things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 4, 2017 Hi, I currently use a pair of Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro with a Fiio E10 and I'm looking to upgrade. Not sure if I should get another DAC or just use an AMP. Want to know if it's worth upgrading at all, and if so what should I buy. I am based in the UK for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 4, 2017 Author 1 hour ago, Cosmos_i7 said: Hi, I currently use a pair of Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro with a Fiio E10 and I'm looking to upgrade. Not sure if I should get another DAC or just use an AMP. Want to know if it's worth upgrading at all, and if so what should I buy. I am based in the UK for reference. budget? Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Dackzy said: budget? I'd say perhaps £100-£200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Cosmos_i7 said: Hi, I currently use a pair of Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro with a Fiio E10 and I'm looking to upgrade. Not sure if I should get another DAC or just use an AMP. Want to know if it's worth upgrading at all, and if so what should I buy. I am based in the UK for reference. Get rid of the E10 as soon as possible whatever you do. Audio Reference • Cutting the Crap • 7.1 Headphones? • Audio Interference Troubleshooting GuideREVIEWS • HiFiMan HE-560 • Beyerdynamic T1 2. Generation • Schiit Bifrost 4490 • Schiit Valhalla 2RECOMMENDATIONS • The Audio Board's Recommended Gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 Author 7 hours ago, Cosmos_i7 said: I'd say perhaps £100-£200 yep get rid of that e10k, how much does a magni 2 and modi 2 cost over there? Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 13 hours ago, SSL said: Get rid of the E10 as soon as possible whatever you do. Is it really that bad? Never really thought much until I came across this thread. Been wanting to upgrade for a while 7 hours ago, Dackzy said: yep get rid of that e10k, how much does a magni 2 and modi 2 cost over there? About £110 each, according to the website you linked. I also noted that there is a Fulla 2 as well, or am I better off getting the magni and modi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 Author 5 minutes ago, Cosmos_i7 said: About £110 each, according to the website you linked. I also noted that there is a Fulla 2 as well, or am I better off getting the magni and modi? 2 the modi 2 ang magni 2 are better, especially the modi 2, but it is up to you if you think it is worth 220£ over 110£ for a fulla 2. Yeah the E10k is pretty bad Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dackzy said: the modi 2 ang magni 2 are better, especially the modi 2, but it is up to you if you think it is worth 220£ over 110£ for a fulla 2. Yeah the E10k is pretty bad Ok I think I will get the modi 2 and magni 2 then. Just curious as to how the E10 is bad, I remember it used to be recommended previously a few years back. I do notice odd blips and static pops occasionally though. Thanks for your help btw, great thread you have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, Cosmos_i7 said: Just curious as to how the E10 is bad Just doesn't sound very good in the scheme of things. Audio Reference • Cutting the Crap • 7.1 Headphones? • Audio Interference Troubleshooting GuideREVIEWS • HiFiMan HE-560 • Beyerdynamic T1 2. Generation • Schiit Bifrost 4490 • Schiit Valhalla 2RECOMMENDATIONS • The Audio Board's Recommended Gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2017 Author 1 hour ago, Cosmos_i7 said: Ok I think I will get the modi 2 and magni 2 then. Just curious as to how the E10 is bad, I remember it used to be recommended previously a few years back. I do notice odd blips and static pops occasionally though. Thanks for your help btw, great thread you have here. it doesn't offer much detail, it is not as tight or clean as other options around its price. Yeah they have some problems in the amp part, it wouldn't be unusual for it to clip if you pushed it above 60%. Well thank you and no problem. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 13, 2017 Hey, I just bought 3 headphones to test and see which one I prefer more. I bought the DT770 pro 80ohmz, Philips Fidelio x2 and akg702. I've been using HyperX headset for a year or two now and the truth is I don't see much difference listening. I thought my Motherboard would be enough(MSI Z97 Gaming 5) to power the headphones but it seems that's not the case. The volume is pretty low for my liking. I'm using Spotify to test the 3 headphones because that's what I use on day to day basis to listen to music. The question would be, what's the best options I could use to power up and make the headphones more bass heavy as im in love with edm music and like the bass and treble aspect of listening. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 13, 2017 Author 9 hours ago, Almond said: Hey, I just bought 3 headphones to test and see which one I prefer more. I bought the DT770 pro 80ohmz, Philips Fidelio x2 and akg702. I've been using HyperX headset for a year or two now and the truth is I don't see much difference listening. I thought my Motherboard would be enough(MSI Z97 Gaming 5) to power the headphones but it seems that's not the case. The volume is pretty low for my liking. I'm using Spotify to test the 3 headphones because that's what I use on day to day basis to listen to music. The question would be, what's the best options I could use to power up and make the headphones more bass heavy as im in love with edm music and like the bass and treble aspect of listening. cheers. if you want the headphone to be more bass heavy, then you bought the wrong headphone, it is really that simple. A DAC and amp are not suddenly going to add a lot of bass, we might talk a small bass bump from getting a DAC and amp, but nothing major at all. An upgrade is less noticeable than a downgrade, I would recommend using one of the headphones for a couple of weeks or a month and then switch back to your HyperX headset. and what kind of budget are we working with? Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, Dackzy said: if you want the headphone to be more bass heavy, then you bought the wrong headphone, it is really that simple. A DAC and amp are not suddenly going to add a lot of bass, we might talk a small bass bump from getting a DAC and amp, but nothing major at all. An upgrade is less noticeable than a downgrade, I would recommend using one of the headphones for a couple of weeks or a month and then switch back to your HyperX headset. and what kind of budget are we working with? well I got recommended the headphones from another post I've created and the person said the bass is pretty good on the set. If we're talking about AMP then maximum £50 as I don't really want to spend more money as the headphones themselves were pretty expensive. I could return the headphones and buy a different pair but im not sure. I have 29 days left to test drive these 3 pairs and ill see at the end of the day which one I could leave behind as my day to day use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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