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Well, it's been about a year. After your vessel trial ends, are you paying?

Paying for Vessel?   

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  1. 1. Are you paying for vessel?

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1 hour ago, QueenDemetria said:

Personally I don't think that is true for a couple reasons. Vessel doesn't use a "tip jar" business model like twitch does. On twitch if I sub or donate to someone, the streamer gets most of the funds(twitch takes out some), and I can donate as much as I want. On Vessel, if I pay $3 monthly, some of that goes to LTT, some to Rhett and Link, some to Philly D, and so on. It could even be like YouTube Red, where the money gets diveded up even to content creators I have never watched nor heard of(I am uncertain of this, just stating it as a possibility). Vessel also puts a huge emphasis on getting "exclusive early access to your favorite videos" rather than your favorite video creators or even mentioning supporting them.

 

I have a sub 2mbps connection at my house, Youtube and Netflix stream just fine whereas Vessel just buffers and buffers. Vessel just really needs to work on compression algorithms, since they had it working fine at one point(although the quality was iffy).

 

Actually Twitch takes a huge portion of the tip jar earnings. 50% iirc.

 

Just an FYI more than anything else. 

 

I'm thinking of doing another "honest answer" episode called "how do YouTubers make money?". Might clear up a LOT of this stuff :)

 

@syntaxvgm is 100% correct, by the way. If you really want to contribute to LMG, a badge on the forum is the best way.

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I barely used it during "free" period. About twice a month or even less (basically when i was out of stuff to watch anywhere else). I don't see any reason to pay for this.

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Yes.

 

I think $20 (presumably USD) a year is a perfectly okay price in my opinion. Also there's plenty of other content on there that interests me other than LTT & it's subsidiary channels.


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I think $20 a year is a totally reasonable price but I just wish there were other/better options to give me the same benefit as getting LMG content on time rather than one week late. I support ChannelSuperFun on Patreon, have purchased a sweatshirt (though that sweatshirt from Teespring has to be the worst sweatshirt I have ever purchased, literally can't even wear it), pay for YouTube Red (watching LMG as well as a dozen plus other people's content in addition to music streaming), donated to the big crowdfunding campaign to move into the new office, etc. etc. I am not opposed to paying for content, especially quality content that I enjoy and spend plenty of my time viewing.

 

I just wish there were a better option than to give that money to Vessel and continue to use their crap platform to watch LMG content on. Sure, they have come a long way in the last year but they are still ages behind Youtube in pretty much every single way, especially when attempting to use on my phone. Removing ads for paying is a huge step. I really just wish there were I way I could pay Linus the $20 directly and get the content on-schedule.

 

More than likely I will wait for my free year to expire and get sad when I realize I have to wait 2 whole weeks to get a new piece of content (outside of WAN show) and end up paying the $20. I won't want to, but I won't have any other choice.

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56 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

 

Actually Twitch takes a huge portion of the tip jar earnings. 50% iirc.

 

Just an FYI more than anything else. 

 

I'm thinking of doing another "honest answer" episode called "how do YouTubers make money?". Might clear up a LOT of this stuff :)

 

@syntaxvgm is 100% correct, by the way. If you really want to contribute to LMG, a badge on the forum is the best way.

O.K., I am new here, how do I buy a badge?

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2 minutes ago, Ramrod126 said:

O.K., I am new here, how do I buy a badge?

At the top of the forum under "more" you can go to the Store page. There are bronze, silver, and gold badges that you can pay for.

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1 minute ago, Ramrod126 said:

O.K., I am new here, how do I buy a badge?

Go here & under featured products is the types of forum badges you can buy!

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/store/


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18 minutes ago, NamelessTed said:

I think $20 a year is a totally reasonable price but I just wish there were other/better options to give me the same benefit as getting LMG content on time rather than one week late. I support ChannelSuperFun on Patreon, have purchased a sweatshirt (though that sweatshirt from Teespring has to be the worst sweatshirt I have ever purchased, literally can't even wear it), pay for YouTube Red (watching LMG as well as a dozen plus other people's content in addition to music streaming), donated to the big crowdfunding campaign to move into the new office, etc. etc. I am not opposed to paying for content, especially quality content that I enjoy and spend plenty of my time viewing.

 

I just wish there were a better option than to give that money to Vessel and continue to use their crap platform to watch LMG content on. Sure, they have come a long way in the last year but they are still ages behind Youtube in pretty much every single way, especially when attempting to use on my phone. Removing ads for paying is a huge step. I really just wish there were I way I could pay Linus the $20 directly and get the content on-schedule.

 

More than likely I will wait for my free year to expire and get sad when I realize I have to wait 2 whole weeks to get a new piece of content (outside of WAN show) and end up paying the $20. I won't want to, but I won't have any other choice.

I wish this was an option. 

 

We've proposed a solution to this to Vessel where they allow us to simply provide an email list of our other subscribers (be it here on the forum or on Patreon or whatever) every month and have them charge us a wholesale fee for the Vessel memberships for those people.

 

For now they are sticking to their story that the technical barriers are too high..

 

But imo this is a PERFECT solution, not just for us, but for many creators who have other means of supporting..

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8 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

I wish this was an option. 

 

We've proposed a solution to this to Vessel where they allow us to simply provide an email list of our other subscribers (be it here on the forum or on Patreon or whatever) every month and have them charge us a wholesale fee for the Vessel memberships for those people.

 

For now they are sticking to their story that the technical barriers are too high..

 

But imo this is a PERFECT solution, not just for us, but for many creators who have other means of supporting..

Appreciate the response. I can understand technical limitation in terms of being tied to using different platforms. My guess would be that the only way around that is to start hosting video files on your own servers to either stream video or allow people to download them and that is obviously just not an option. The only other partial option would be to keep videos unlisted and send the links to Patreon subscribers but those links would just immediately get shared everywhere so it would negate itself.

 

Maybe a year from now YouTube will have more options on how content creators can provide videos to subscribers. I could easily see myself paying another small fee to subscribe to specific channels for extra content, not sure if that is the direct YouTube even wants to take, though. I guess for now paying the $20 to Vessel isn't the worst thing ever.

 

Also, am I the only one that find the teespring sweatshirts unwearable? You keep mentioning (and wearing) that fancy new sweatshirt from whatever fancy manufacturer with that fancy logo and fancy pockets. Is that ever going to become a thing? I totally want to buy one.

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2 hours ago, Enderman said:

tek syndicate doesnt seem to be doing so hot

 

imo splitting up their content into so many channels has really reduced their audience and views, at least from i can tell

Yah I agree that's cringe inducing stupidity. And they are ina huge transition time, they've made little content or efforts to keep their current base. 


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No, because of unknown circumstances when i watch ltt's vids at vessel it tends to buff longer than at YT i only watched like 2-3 vids at vessel and all of the other vids are watched on YT i could just wait out new contents in the YT channel.


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1 hour ago, LinusTech said:

 

Actually Twitch takes a huge portion of the tip jar earnings. 50% iirc.

 

Just an FYI more than anything else. 

 

I'm thinking of doing another "honest answer" episode called "how do YouTubers make money?". Might clear up a LOT of this stuff :)

 

@syntaxvgm is 100% correct, by the way. If you really want to contribute to LMG, a badge on the forum is the best way.

Hey I just read about it, what about that vessel only series? 

Is that like completely vessel funded or something? What's the deal with that? 

 


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2 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

The easiest way to contribute to LMG is to donate directly, I mean they get 100% of it.

Paypal takes a cut.

 

And yes, I'm likely going to renew vessel for a year. Though on the fence a bit. I use it for a fair few channels. But at $20US, it's a bit pricey for me. If it was $20AUD I wouldn't even hesitate. So I might let my membership expire, see if I miss it, and if I do, renew.

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2 minutes ago, Dredgy said:

Paypal takes a cut.

 

And yes, I'm likely going to renew vessel for a year. Though on the fence a bit. I use it for a fair few channels. But at $20US, it's a bit pricey for me. If it was $20AUD I wouldn't even hesitate. So I might let my membership expire, see if I miss it, and if I do, renew.

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5 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

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I mean I guess I am. I do watch most linus videos on vessel, and tek syndicate is coming soon, though not with 7 day exclusivity thank god. 

No for a lot of reasons.

 

1. NO WINDOWS Phone APP? or Windows 10 Universal APP? That is a sad joke. and really was the tip of the iceberg for me.

2.Really slow playback

3. Video Quality is a thing

4. I'm not paying $20/year. I don't care what it is. I'm not paying $20/year or more for media except for music and movies.

5. Really ass slow player

6. It's so clunky and annoying to use.


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I'm bit in between now. I wasn't going to pay $3/mo. That was fact. But it was also before latest news about Vessel only series, which I dislike and will guarantee that LMG loses my support about Vessel as platform. With that news also came the $20/y fee. Its kinda OK-ish. But I still dislike idea of Vessel only thing since it was promised from beginning that all content will be on YT also.


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I'm already paying for vessel and have just payed for an annual sub due to the saving it gets me, but in doing that, its broken my ability to watch videos, they just endlessly load and never show content! Not a happy customer here

 

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Is Vessel down for anyone else? I haven't been able to get on since Sunday

 

If it's not up and running when I want to watch videos, I certainly am not paying for it

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I would like to support LTT so I will do it by buying t-shirts or a badge. I WILL NOT however pay for Vessel. It is complete and total Bullshit that there will be Vessel only content. @LinusTech promised that his content would always be free and even if Vessel is paying for it, it is still content produced by LMG. Vessel is a TERRIBLY BUGGY PLATFORM.

 

I implore everyone to support LMG through the shops and their amazon kickbacks, but Vessel as a platform needs to die off. I am SO HAPPY to see <18% of the LTT viewers will be paying for Vessel. Good on you.


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8 hours ago, Kiwi00000 said:

I find it a bit sad that there will be content only for Vessel members on CSF. Bit of a bugger.

Don't worry it will be spread all over on vimeo, dailymotion, and so on


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No
Youtube Red it worth my money Vessel is not.
 
Pay for not being patient, [and lower quality, (idk if vessel has up to bitrate yet or not)]
 
or pay and get no ads, more content, and music.  (btw i pay 5$ a month for youtube red, not the normal 10$) (also youtube red has already paid for it self, as in the money i saved for not having to buy all the songs, by like a few thousand.)
 
What i want google to do is bump the price another 5-7 $ a month and inculde movies/tv shows (provide a tier system)
 


 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Arty said:

 [and lower quality, (idk if vessel has up to bitrate yet or not)]
 

I agree, I have always thought that Vessel delivers a lower quality video feed. the colors look flatter and compression artifacts are FAR more prevalent.


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I have more cores/threads than you...and I use them all

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