[UPDATE] AMD hosting "capsaicin" live webcast at GDC on March 14th-could announce Fury X2 and demo Polaris

[DocSwag]

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-capsaicin-gdc-2016-live-webcast/

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AMD has just announced that they will be hosting their “Capsaicin” live webcast at GDC to showcase the latest innovations from the Radeon Technology Group. AMD has been talking about spicing things up at GDC as Chris Hook who serves as the marketing director at AMD tweeted on his profile that they will preview some very hot and spicy new innovations at this year’s GDC.

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Last year, AMD announced their latest LiquidVR software program for Radeon graphics cards. NVIDIA used the event to unveil their insanely fast (and expensive) GeForce GTX Titan X graphics card. This year, both graphics makers will be at it again, showcasing their latest products, in hardware and software form. AMD has revealed that they will be indeed by showcasing a lot of stuff at their exclusive live webcast titled as “Capsaicin”. From the press release which you can read below, it definitely seems like AMD is up to something big, showcasing both hardware and software side advances. The company states that not only will the have some demos for GCN from industry veterans, but will also preview new silicon and software advancements.

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New silicon looks like AMD is referring to Polaris since the last new silicon that was launched by AMD was their Fiji graphics card and that’s just about a year old now (9 months to be exact). But that won’t be it, AMD has both HTC and Oculus at their event too so this could mean AMD is going to launch their Fury X2 graphics card at GDC 2016 which was specifically delayed to align with the VR market. Knowing that both HTC and Oculus have announced their VR HMD (head mounted displays), now might be the best time for AMD to reveal their fastest dual-chip graphics card.

Well this will be interesting. The AMA from a little while back didn't give us much information, so this might be our chance to learn more about Polaris and the Furyx2. Hopefully we will learn some more about AMDs upcoming projects at GDC on March 14th.

 

[UPDATE 3/11]

AMD has just teased Polaris for the Capsaicin event. Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-give-sneak-peak-polaris-march-14-capsaicin-gdc-press-event/

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AMD has just tweeted a teaser stating that a sneak peak of Polaris is coming at 4PM 14th of March at the Capsaicin GDC webcast. The webcast will be hosted by Radeon Technologies Group’s head Raja Koduri. During the event the company has stated that there will be demonstrations of next generation hardware, software and games. Furthermore the company is promising that Capsaicin will explore the “inner essence” of the graphics processing unit.

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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gQETjZzLnf9

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In addition to promising a sneak peak at Polaris as well as discussions around next generation DirectX 12 games and AMD’s DirectX 12 and VR initiatives, we have it on good authority and via leaks on AMD’s website that the event will include the announcement of the fabled dual Fiji Fury X2 graphics card. Which is now called the Radeon Duo Pro. The announcement will also be accompanied by the introduction of several Radeon Duo Pro powered, compact, extreme high-performance systems.

It seems the FuryX2 could be called the Radeon Duo Pro, but leaks like this have been false before, so take it with a grain of salt.

I'm excited for this! Do you guys want me to just update this topic with info as it comes out or make a new topic?

[Guest Kloaked]

If you could highlight the text in the quotes and press the Remove Format button (directly the left of Size), that would be neat.

[Thunderjolt]

Oooooooh boy, If you thought the R9 Fury was a hot card just wait till you see our new "capsaicin" branded ones. You'll be able to cook dinner on it

[don_svetlio]

What if Fury X2 is 14nm? Maybe that's why they waited

[Fetzie]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

What if Fury X2 is 14nm? Maybe that's why they waited

If nVidia is set to announce the Titan Pascal then that'd make a lot of sense. Two fury cores for the power consumption of one?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Fetzie said:

If nVidia is set to announce the Titan Pascal then that'd make a lot of sense. Two fury cores for the power consumption of one?

Pascal Titan is due Feb 2017. Was leaked last year

[DocSwag]

23 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

If you could highlight the text in the quotes and press the Remove Format button (directly the left of Size), that would be neat.

Done.

Does it bother some of you? Or is it because some of you use the dark theme and (I think) there is some white highlight so it makes it impossible for you to read it?

Just curious. I will remember to do that in the future.

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Done.

Does it bother some of you? Or is it because some of you use the dark theme and (I think) there is some white highlight so it makes it impossible for you to read it?

Just curious. I will remember to do that in the future.

That, and sometimes the text gets changed to a font that's even harder to read with a white background.

 

EDIT: When you copy and paste, use the "paste as plain text" option.

[ivan134]

27 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

What if Fury X2 is 14nm? Maybe that's why they waited

Nope. For some odd and stupid reason they delayed it for a VR launch. It needs to be scrapped already.

[Tech_Dreamer]

Yas! it's Time to regret for recent flagship GPU buyers

[DocSwag]

38 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

That, and sometimes the text gets changed to a font that's even harder to read with a white background.

 

EDIT: When you copy and paste, use the "paste as plain text" option.

Ok gotcha .

[Trixanity]

17 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Ok gotcha .

Sometimes not even a white background, sometimes just dark text on dark background meaning it's unreadable without selecting the text to create a white background to make it legible. 

 

Removing format should be put in a sticky somewhere. I think at least one third of the quotes on this forum are bad for night theme. 

 

On topic: will definitely be launching Fury X2 (at 28 nm of course) and probably demoing some Polaris on the hardware side. Now what software they'll be showing off is uncertain. Probably more GPUopen stuff and maybe some surprises. I can imagine they'll show off some Linux stuff in particular.

[MEC-777]

Every time I hear "Polaris" all I can think of is...

 

[TechGod]

3 hours ago, Thunderjolt said:

Oooooooh boy, If you thought the R9 Fury was a hot card just wait till you see our new "capsaicin" branded ones. You'll be able to cook dinner on it

Wtf??? The Fury wasn't even a hot card. 

[LAwLz]

The Fury x2 seems kind of pointless now. With Polaris just around the corner (like 3 months or something?) I don't really see any sane person buying it.

[DocSwag]

I do have a feeling that the initial batch of Polaris cards will use gddr5 and not hbm. One of the reasons is it would keep the FuryX2 as one of the only hbm cards, but the other reason is I just found this: http://wccftech.com/sk-hynix-hbm2-mass-production-q3-2016/ (I'm too lazy to post a topic on this so if one of you want to go ahead).

If you ask me hbm2 won't be ready by mid year because you can't use something that does exist. Perhaps the first Polaris cards will be low end ultra efficient cards, and we will get more powerful ones later this year in q3 or q4.

[Tomsen]

3 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

What if Fury X2 is 14nm? Maybe that's why they waited

Fury x2 is not going to be 14nm. Way to much of an expensive to make, for such a niche product.

 

26 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

The Fury x2 seems kind of pointless now. With Polaris just around the corner (like 3 months or something?) I don't really see any sane person buying it.

Are you going to expect fury x2 performance from polaris launch in 3 months from now? I dont.

We have yet to hear anything about vega 10, that is the supposed big GPU.

[Watermelon Guy]

4 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

What if Fury X2 is 14nm? Maybe that's why they waited

No way. Would be a waste, as the dual 490x will probably be out by december, or early next year.

[LAwLz]

3 minutes ago, Tomsen said:

Are you going to expect fury x2 performance from polaris launch in 3 months from now? I dont.

We have yet to hear anything about vega 10, that is the supposed big GPU.

I do... Almost.

Just look at the previous dual GPU cards vs new gen single GPU cards

5970 -> 6970: About a 20% performance difference (in favor of the 5970). 600 vs 370 USD.

 

6990 -> 290X: About a 20% performance difference (in favor of the 6990). 700 vs 550 USD.

 

 

On top of that you also have to factor in all the drawbacks of dual GPU cards. It's not uncommon that crossfire doesn't work in games. Microstuttering is still a thing. Cooling is far worse because of the limited space. You know, the usual dual GPU drawbacks.

 I just think, and hope, that Polaris will be such a big leap forward that anyone who buys this Fury x2 once it launches will regret it.

[Tomsen]

4 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

I do... Almost.

Just look at the previous dual GPU cards vs new gen single GPU cards

5970 -> 6970: About a 20% performance difference (in favor of the 5970). 600 vs 370 USD.

 

6990 -> 290X: About a 20% performance difference (in favor of the 6990). 700 vs 550 USD.

 

 

On top of that you also have to factor in all the drawbacks of dual GPU cards. It's not uncommon that crossfire doesn't work in games. Microstuttering is still a thing. Cooling is far worse because of the limited space. You know, the usual dual GPU drawbacks.

 I just think, and hope, that Polaris will be such a big leap forward that anyone who buys this Fury x2 once it launches will regret it.

I won't expect that performance until we see vega 10. We are first going to see low-mid end, so I wont expect huge performance increase on current high end.

Games games implementation for dual GPU have pretty terrible scaling, that is correct.

 

But dual GPU does have its advantages in VR, which AMD more or less have intended the product for. 

[PlayStation 2]

But why on a Monday?

[vanished]

4 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

Pascal Titan is due Feb 2017. Was leaked last year

They'll still have to hold an official event though.  Watch out for them registering "Resiniferatoxin" just so they can one-up AMD

[Notional]

5 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

What if Fury X2 is 14nm? Maybe that's why they waited

Not gonna happen. It's too costly to shrink an existing architecture designed for a different process node, than just shrink down their polaris architecture. This is definitely due to Asetek's IP rights suit against Cooler Master and by proxy AMD. This is why we see the FuryX2 as a blower style card in the twitter pics.

1 hour ago, LAwLz said:

The Fury x2 seems kind of pointless now. With Polaris just around the corner (like 3 months or something?) I don't really see any sane person buying it.

Well 2x performance per watt does not mean twice the performance of the new cards. I don't think 14/16nm FF processes are optimized enough. But we will see of course. I still think FuryX2 will be the highest performing card, even after the new cards come along a few months later. Just like the 295x2 did. Even more if you consider using it for VR, where AMD supports 1 GPU per eye rendering.

[LAwLz]

50 minutes ago, Tomsen said:

I won't expect that performance until we see vega 10. We are first going to see low-mid end, so I wont expect huge performance increase on current high end.

Well shit. I was expecting the high end cards to be out this summer. That's really disappointing if it turns out to be true.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Notional said:

Well 2x performance per watt does not mean twice the performance of the new cards.

True, but I never said it did. I was looking at previous dual GPU cards vs the high end single GPU card from the next generation. Dual GPU cards are not anywhere near double the performance of one of the individual GPUs. Scaling and thermal limitations makes them quite a bit worse. It usually ends up being more like ~85% of the performance.

21 minutes ago, Notional said:

Even more if you consider using it for VR, where AMD supports 1 GPU per eye rendering.

We don't know how well that will work yet. I would not be holding my breath that it will work flawlessly.

[Humbug]

I think they will use liquidVR to demo the FuryX2 driving the VR HMDs with one GPU per eye.