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256bit Vs. 384bit GDDR5 for BF4

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I'm comparing two Nvidia Geforce Cards

 

One is a Gigabyte GTX 770 with 4GB GDDR5 256bit Memory and the other is a Gigabyte GTX 780 with 3GB 384bit Memory.

 

Which is more important to be able to play BF4 at Ultra settings, is it, more VRAM or more Memory Bandwidth?

 

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770 probably won't be playing bf4 on ultra at a nice frame rate, the 780's probably your best bet regardless. 

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The more bandwidth you have, the more of the memory you can access.  They are connected. If you don't have enough memory, you won't be able to play the game at it's full potential.

 

As for BF4, it's isn't out yet--we are not wizards.

If you don't have enough vram, you will need more. If you have enough, you would want more bandwidth and vice versa.

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770 probably won't be playing bf4 on ultra at a nice frame rate, the 780's probably your best bet regardless. 

BF4 doesn't seem any nicer than BF3 for the most part, I would be surprised if a 770 couldn't handle it nicely on ultra settings.

 

 

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770 probably won't be playing bf4 on ultra at a nice frame rate, the 780's probably your best bet regardless. 

 

BF4 will not require much more then BF3, and my 670 can run it on ultra without a problem.

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Not unless you are going major eyefinity 

on an nvidia card.

 

anyways, just get the 780. 

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BF4 will not require much more then BF3, and my 670 can run it on ultra without a problem.

 

BF4 doesn't seem any nicer than BF3 for the most part, I would be surprised if a 770 couldn't handle it nicely on ultra settings.

 

I think my definition of a nice framerate is probably pretty high. Above 80 or go home ;)

export PS1='\[\033[1;30m\]┌╼ \[\033[1;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[1;30m\] ╾╼ \[\033[0;34m\]\w\[\033[0;36m\]\n\[\033[1;30m\]└╼ \[\033[1;37m\]'


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I think my definition of a nice framerate is probably pretty high. Above 80 or go home ;)

 

I get about 85-90 on average on BF3, with a 670, I'm sure a 770 will be even above that.

Also, 60+ FPS can reduce the quality if you only use a 60Hz monitor.

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I get about 85-90 on average on BF3, with a 670, I'm sure a 770 will be even above that.

Also, 60+ FPS can reduce the quality if you only use a 60Hz monitor.

 

It reduces the quality yes but decreases lag. 

export PS1='\[\033[1;30m\]┌╼ \[\033[1;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[1;30m\] ╾╼ \[\033[0;34m\]\w\[\033[0;36m\]\n\[\033[1;30m\]└╼ \[\033[1;37m\]'


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It reduces the quality yes but decreases lag. 

 

Not if you have a 60Hz monitor.

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To run at Ultra you need 3GB, what I need to know is 256bit Vs. 384bit? At what point does it make sense to have 384bit, how much memory do you have to have to make 384bit worth it? I'm looking at 1920x1080 @ 60 FPS.

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Currently have a EVGA GTX 460 768MB

 

I'm in the middle of a computer upgrade so either way, I need a new card. AMD cards are out, because I need CUDA and PhysX for Adobe CS6

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Don't get a 770 get a 7970 instead, it's cheaper and as good if not better and if you wait you can choose bf4 as a game that comes with it other wise wait for next gen AMD

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60hz with 60fps vs 60hz with 80fps. Load up a game and feel the majestic!

 

I can tell you for sure, you will NOT see a difference. Why? Because you CAN'T, 60Hz only shows 60 FPS, so how would 80 FPS be better if you can't see 20 FPS of it?

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Currently have a EVGA GTX 460 768MB

 

I'm in the middle of a computer upgrade so either way, I need a new card. AMD cards are out, because I need CUDA and PhysX for Adobe CS6

Adobe CS6 now has OpenCL support and if I am not mistaken it performs better than CUDA.

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Adobe CS6 now has OpenCL support and if I am not mistaken it performs better than CUDA.

Adobe Creative Cloud does, but not CS6 and I'm not sure about Vegas.

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Adobe CS6 now has OpenCL support and if I am not mistaken it performs better than CUDA.

Adobe Creative Cloud does, but not CS6 and I'm not sure about Vegas.

Vegas has had OpenCL support since before Pro 11 as far as I know http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceleration

CUDA has a longer history of support but is limited to Nvidia so OpenCL is being adopted in favor due to it being open source and is potentially workable with everything such Nvidia, AMD, iGPU, etc. 

Whether OpenCL performs better than CUDA or not depends on the application.

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To run at Ultra you need 3GB, what I need to know is 256bit Vs. 384bit? At what point does it make sense to have 384bit, how much memory do you have to have to make 384bit worth it? I'm looking at 1920x1080 @ 60 FPS.

 

As a rule of thumb you need 128bit per gig when running game-type applications. So a 3 GB card should have a 384 bit bus. This is why 4 GB cards with 256bit bus have got a hard time using much more than their normal 2 GB in games. It's also why the 6 GB Titan won't make use of 6 GB in games, it will hover around 3 GB.

 

Question is if BF4 will make use of 3 GB of memory at 1920x1080. I've got no idea. Most games don't, but they did put 3 GB in the recommended specs. Usually 3 GB and the 384bit bus starts to shine in resolutions above 1080p.... or in heavily texture modded games.

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please read my thread on this

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I never play old games like that so 60Hz FPS is what I am used to and what I enjoy. I like quality images rather than slightly better responce time between mouse and monitor and screen tearing is just terrible image quality in my opinion.

 

I'm not going to argue with you anymore. It's just not worth the effort unless your willing to have an open mind.

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As a rule of thumb you need 128bit per gig when running game-type applications. So a 3 GB card should have a 384 bit bus. This is why 4 GB cards with 256bit bus have got a hard time using much more than their normal 2 GB in games. It's also why the 6 GB Titan won't make use of 6 GB in games, it will hover around 3 GB.

 

Question is if BF4 will make use of 3 GB of memory at 1920x1080. I've got no idea. Most games don't, but they did put 3 GB in the recommended specs. Usually 3 GB and the 384bit bus starts to shine in resolutions above 1080p.... or in heavily texture modded games.

Read this

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/44197-memory-bus-size-and-how-it-effects-your-vram-usage/

The titan is a card that can read all of its memory and still have the small bus. Very strange but true.

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