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2 hours ago, App4that said:

But yeah that games an embarrassment to the industry as a whole

have you even played the game?! it's a wonderful game with a 980ti...seriously!

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4 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

have you even played the game?! it's a wonderful game with a 980ti...seriously!

That should still be a wonderful game with an R9 390.

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1 minute ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

That should still be a wonderful game with an R9 390.

can't do anything but agree...but still, it's an amazing game none the less.

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23 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

have you even played the game?! it's a wonderful game with a 980ti...seriously!

No one listens xD story of my life.

 

The only reason games are pushed to market and we as customers are given an unfinished product is that it's allowed.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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6 minutes ago, App4that said:

No one listens xD story of my life.

 

The only reason games are pushed to market and we as customers are given an unfinished product is that it's allowed.

i paid 12$ for a key on G2A and it was worth every penny...one of the best games of 2015 IMHO along with dying light and GTA 5.

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Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

i paid 12$ for a key on G2A and it was worth every penny...one of the best games of 2015 IMHO along with dying light and GTA 5.

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If anyone asks you never saw me.

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5 minutes ago, App4that said:

snip!

i'm telling you...try it out!

The atmosphere in that game, the musics, the sounds, the graphics...everything is spot on!! i swear to god it's an amazing game...the best batman game for sure by a mile.

 

here is how it run on a my machine (gameplay is capped at 90FPS):

 

 

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2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i'm telling you...try it out!

The atmosphere in that game, the musics, the sounds, the graphics...everything is spot on!! i swear to god it's an amazing game...the best batman game for sure by a mile.

 

here is how it run on a my machine (gameplay is capped at 90FPS):

 

 

I won't, I refuse to reward them. If I hadn't preordered Fallout 4 (I swear it's the last time I ever will, I was weak) I wouldn't have bought that steaming pile of crap, and it's one of my favorite games.

 

I worked for a developer, they know when it's done. If this trend continues were going to drop from beta, to alpha. *looks a Ashes of the Singularity* FUCK...

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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Great thread, very informative and no derailing. I give 390 out of 970 stars. /s

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9 hours ago, App4that said:

Well, hold onto your cap because if you look out the left side of the cabin you'll see the consoles we're not allowed to surpass.

 

 

Not only the consoles are to blame, there are so many bad PCs out there look at the Steam surveys...

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R23 score MC: 9190pts | R23 score SC: 1302pts

R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.4/4.8GHz, 13,5MB cache (Intel 14nm++ FinFET) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W / RAM A1, A2, B1 & B2: DDR4-2666MHz CL13-15-15-15-35-1T "Samsung 8Gbit C-Die" (4x8GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 5: Crucial P1 1000GB M.2 SSD/ Storage 6: Western Digital WD7500BPKX 2.5" HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter (Qualcomm Atheros)

Zen-II-X6-3600+ (Gaming PC)

R23 score MC: 9893pts | R23 score SC: 1248pts @4.2GHz

R23 score MC: 10151pts | R23 score SC: 1287pts @4.3GHz

R20 score MC: 3688cb | R20 score SC: 489cb

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.2/4.2GHz, 35MB cache (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Display: HP 24" L2445w (64Hz OC) 1920x1200 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT DUAL OC RDNA2 32CUs @2607MHz (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4, Socket-AM4 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W / RAM A2 & B2: DDR4-3600MHz CL16-18-8-19-37-1T "SK Hynix 8Gbit CJR" (2x16GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Storage 5: Kingston A2000 1TB M.2 NVME SSD / Wi-fi & Bluetooth: ASUS PCE-AC55BT Wireless Adapter (Intel)

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Godavari-X4-880K | R20 score MC: 810cb

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Acer Aspire 7738G custom (changed CPU, GPU & Storage)
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Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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6 hours ago, Nena360 said:

Not only the consoles are to blame, there are so many bad PCs out there look at the Steam surveys...

Truer words have not been spoken. And they spend money, lots of money. The developer I worked for openly catered to them. We had people with rigs like mine playing at low settings to be competitive.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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On 18.2.2016 at 4:47 AM, Dan Castellaneta said:

*snip*

So I just ran a quick benchmark in Star Wars: Battlfront comparing my Gigaybte GTX 970 G1 Gaming with my brother's HIS R9 390 IceQ X². I downclocked my i7-4770k to 3,4 Ghz, my 8 GB of RAM to 1600 MHz, and I deactivated HT.

 

All settings on Ultra, motion blur 100%, FOV 60, screen refresh rate 144 Hz, 1080p.

 

GTX 970:

2016-02-20 18:26:19 - starwarsbattlefront
Frames: 4857 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 80.950 - Min: 75 - Max: 88

 

R9 390:

2016-02-20 19:09:14 - starwarsbattlefront 
Frames: 4653 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 77.550 - Min: 48 - Max: 104

 

However, the R9 390 dropped so many frames, the game at times almost felt unplayable, while the 970 had no issues whatsoever. I think I'll do some more testing, but for now I'm not gonna recommend getting a R9 390 with a locked i5.
 

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The R9-390 performs really well....on an overclocked i7-6700K or 5960X. On the CPU's it's going to be used with, stock i5's mostly, the picture isn't as pretty.

That is pretty much the bottomline until DX12 becomes a thing.

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5 minutes ago, Majestic said:

The R9-390 performs really well....on an overclocked i7-6700K or 5960X. On the CPU's it's going to be used with, stock i5's mostly, the picture isn't as pretty.

That is pretty much the bottomline until DX12 becomes a thing.

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5 minutes ago, Majestic said:

I know, just reaffirming. Though "i7" is pretty vague. 2600K would have more of an impact than a 6700K.

nah, sandy would be fine. Nehalem/Westmere on the other hand, not so much

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3 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Latest DigitalFoundry video disagrees with you.

that was a 2500k... not a 2600k.

 

extra threads and higher clockspeeds changes things up more then you think.

 

also, Richard always looks so sad

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1 minute ago, Prysin said:

that was a 2500k... not a 2600k.

 

extra threads and higher clockspeeds changes things up more then you think.

The 2500K was overclocked, and only a handful of games scale beyond 4 cores.

 

Lets atleast agree on the fact that "i7 or xeon" needs context.

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12 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

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Should add that in when GimpWorks is not involved and in GPU bound scenarios, it leaves the 970 in the dust and competes with a 980.

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6 minutes ago, Majestic said:

The 2500K was overclocked, and only a handful of games scale beyond 4 cores.

 

Lets atleast agree on the fact that "i7 or xeon" needs context.

especially since there are quad core no HT only Xeons out there

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4 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Should add that in when GimpWorks is not involved and in GPU bound scenarios, it leaves the 970 in the dust and competes with a 980.

*on a 4,5ghz 6700K

*with a reference 970

 

On an i5 with both overclocked cards, the 390 will not leave the 970 in the dust.

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