X99 vs Skylake for programming

[Clanscorpia]

Is X99 worth the $200 Canadian more than Z170 in programming? It's a big gap for me and I'm not sure I need 6 cores with hyper threading. I do GUI programming, USB interfaces, and School work along with lots of gaming. Thanks!

[RuLeZ]

In my experience basically any computer can do programming, I dont see the point of X99 for that.

[Clanscorpia]

Just now, RuLeZ said:

In my experience basically any computer than do programming, I dont see the point of X99 for that.

Building the program. Thats like rendering. And you'd have to do that tons and tons for times for a program before you get rid of bugs

[RuLeZ]

Just now, Clanscorpia said:

Building the program. Thats like rendering. And you'd have to do that tons and tons for times for a program before you get rid of bugs

How long are you taking with your computer right now each time?

[Clanscorpia]

Just now, RuLeZ said:

How long are you taking with your computer right now each time?

I cant even. Its so trash I don't want to try. I haven't done anything big because it wouldn't run well enough so I could debug it. E1-2500 APU is trash.

[Hackentosher]

x99 offers more compute performance, so if you have a lot of code to crunch through, a 5820k will probably be better. Keep in mind that one of the main advantages of the 5820k has over the 6700k is that it has two more cores, but the architecture of the enthusiast platform tends to be better at production uses.

[Claryn]

If you really need to crush some numbers, get a Xeon. As long as you have some sort of discrete GPU, they will outperform most i7s on price/performance. 

[Clanscorpia]

2 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

x99 offers more compute performance, so if you have a lot of code to crunch through, a 5820k will probably be better. Keep in mind that one of the main advantages of the 5820k has over the 6700k is that it has two more cores, but the architecture of the enthusiast platform tends to be better at production uses.

So for more like small buisness programming it wouldn't make a big difference?\

 

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, Claryn said:

If you really need to crush some numbers, get a Xeon. As long as you have some sort of discrete GPU, they will outperform most i7s on price/performance. 

I'm planning on OCing. I'm also doing lots of gaming.

[manikyath]

i used to make the worst mess of spaghetti code on a mobile second gen i7, and it never even struggled at the things i threw at it. (okay maybe except that one time i accidentially pushed 420 irc messages per second for a test)

[Claryn]

Just now, Clanscorpia said:

I'm planning on OCing. I'm also doing lots of gaming.

You can easily overclock Xeons. They are beating i7s in games as well. 

[joan2404]

It depends on what are you programming. For my needs (html,css, javascript, c++, android and iphone programming and basic GUI) any computer can do it and doesn't take too long to build. If you're using graphic engines maybe it's worth the extra 2 cores that x99 offers. Also as you're going to game, take a look at benchmarks to see if x99 is a big improvement over z170.

[cynexit]

8 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Is X99 worth the $200 Canadian more than Z170 in programming? It's a big gap for me and I'm not sure I need 6 cores with hyper threading. I do GUI programming, USB interfaces, and School work along with lots of gaming. Thanks!

Just for this, X99 is not worth it! If you're compiling the kernel all day, yeah, I can see the use for X99, but just some small one-man-project? Nope, not worth the money.

[manikyath]

Just now, Claryn said:

You can easily overclock Xeons. They are beating i7s in games as well. 

but they dont OC quite as well as the K parts, that said, i doubt OC will be worth the trouble for programming.

[cynexit]

3 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

I'm planning on OCing. I'm also doing lots of gaming.

If you want to do OCing and are planning to buy a 6700K do the math to see the price difference between your X99 with 5820K and Z170 system. Here in Germany it's like ~5 Euro so I would go with the 5820K, but I don't know if Skylake is cheaper in Canada.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, cynexit said:

Just for this, X99 is not worth it! If you're compiling the kernel all day, yeah, I can see the use for X99, but just some small one-man-project? Nope, not worth the money.

if a raspberry pi 2b can recompile the entirety of emulationstation (50-something emulators i think) overnight, i doubt that theres any single project even an i5 will struggle with.

[Clanscorpia]

Just now, cynexit said:

If you want to do OCing and are planning to buy a 6700K do the math to see the price difference between your X99 with 5820K and Z170 system. Here in Germany it's like ~5 Euro so I would go with the 5820K, but I don't know if Skylake is cheaper in Canada.

Its around $200-250 here. X99 mobos are expansive. The chip price difference is only 20 though

[givegomezthegun]

Save your money on the skylake.  It doesn't sound like you're working on anything heavy enough to require the extra horsepower.