[Canon EOS] Can someone explain this?

[Indus Monk]

I bought a EOS 1200D, Everyone had suggested me the "NIKON D5300"; But my uncle (who was a photographer for the Indian army for 40 years) told me to go for canon. Was buying a 1200D a bad idea? Should i have waited a little longer and gone for a EOS 700D or a Nikon Equivalent? Also, What are the differences between two canon DLSR Bodies? What are the technical factors that make one DSLR body better than the other (i know a thing or two about lenses and i don't think lens is that much of a factor)?

 

I am still a noob though and these are what i consider as my best shots:

 

 

tell me how i can improve without spending any money...

[C0LL0SS0S]

1 minute ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

(i know a thing or two about lenses and i don't think lens is that much of a factor)?

I am a pretty noob when it Comes to cameras, but I am pretty sure they are a huge factor

[Indus Monk]

Just now, C0LL0SS0S said:

I am a pretty noob when it Comes to cameras, but I am pretty sure they are a huge factor

i think someone may disapprove of that... but still, i can be wrong

[Bittenfleax]

With my knowledge of camera's this is my method of thinking of them all:

 

Does the picture look cool > It's good

[Indus Monk]

11 minutes ago, Bittenfleax said:

With my knowledge of camera's this is my method of thinking of them all:

 

Does the picture look cool > It's good

kinda bad analogy

[Bittenfleax]

7 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

kinda bad analogy

Yes but for my feeble non camera orientated mind it works. I only know it works because I have never bought a camera in my life 

[ALwin]

2 hours ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

I bought a EOS 1200D, Everyone had suggested me the "NIKON D5300"; But my uncle (who was a photographer for the Indian army for 40 years) told me to go for canon. Was buying a 1200D a bad idea? Should i have waited a little longer and gone for a EOS 700D or a Nikon Equivalent? Also, What are the differences between two canon DLSR Bodies? What are the technical factors that make one DSLR body better than the other (i know a thing or two about lenses and i don't think lens is that much of a factor)?

The differences between two digital cameras would be sensor size, megapixel count, how different brands have different algorithms for handling noise produced at high ISO, the RAW format they use, the lens mounts...

 

NONE of which are essentially important for a beginner.  Even pros don't really care about them as much as people might think.  What matters most are:

• Do you know how to use your camera and get the most out of it?
• Do you know its limitations and what it is capable of doing?
• Are you a good photographer and know various photography techniques?

In the end, the camera is just a tool.  What matters most is your vision in creating a photographic piece of art.

[Indus Monk]

6 minutes ago, ALwin said:

The differences between two digital cameras would be sensor size, megapixel count, how different brands have different algorithms for handling noise produced at high ISO, the RAW format they use, the lens mounts...

 

NONE of which are essentially important for a beginner.  Even pros don't really care about them as much as people might think.  What matters most are:

• Do you know how to use your camera and get the most out of it?
• Do you know its limitations and what it is capable of doing?
• Are you a good photographer and know various photography techniques?

In the end, the camera is just a tool.  What matters most is your vision in creating a photographic piece of art.

i once heard that the DSLR development has been really stagnated for a while... Is that why even the pros don't care about the body technicalities and only care about lenses?

 

Also which is better?

NikonD5300 or Canon EOS 1200D? Should i have waited and saved up more for a EOS 700D

 

An lastly; whatever is written in Red; is that all bullshit?

[ALwin]

5 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

i once heard that the DSLR development has been really stagnated for a while... Is that why even the pros don't care about the body technicalities and only care about lenses?

 

Also which is better?

NikonD5300 or Canon EOS 1200D? Should i have waited and saved up more for a EOS 700D

 

An lastly; whatever is written in Red; is that all bullshit?

You buy the camera you can afford and are comfortable using.

 

Pros don't care because what matters for us are the photos we give to our clients or the photos we take for our enjoyment of taking photos.  We're happy using whatever camera we feel comfortable using, and we have a good idea on "picking the right tool for the job" due to our experience.

[Indus Monk]

2 minutes ago, ALwin said:

You buy the camera you can afford and are comfortable using.

 

Pros don't care because what matters for us are the photos we give to our clients.  We're happy using whatever camera we feel comfortable using.

Conclusion i drew:

Canon and Nikon flamewars will persist. It's fine to go with either.

[.spider.]

D5300 is definitely better.

[ALwin]

Just now, AmbarChakrabarti said:

Conclusion i drew:

Canon and Nikon flamewars will persist. It's fine to go with either.

Yep.

 

For photography, nearly all modern digital cameras have more or less the same performance with differences mainly depending on sensor size.

 

For video using photo cameras... read the guide in my signature.

[Indus Monk]

1 minute ago, .spider. said:

D5300 is definitely better.

in your opinion, yes. but like i said:

 

"Canon and Nikon flamewars will persist. It's fine to go with either."

[ALwin]

1 minute ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

in your opinion, yes. but like i said:

 

"Canon and Nikon flamewars will persist. It's fine to go with either."

You already own a Canon 1200D?  Keep using it until it dies or you understand what you really need in a camera that the 1200D doesn't have, then you upgrade.

[Indus Monk]

Just now, ALwin said:

You already own a Canon 1200D?  Keep using it until it dies or you understand what you really need in a camera that the 1200D doesn't have, then you upgrade.

i already do. And i guess i will just go with better lenses.

 

Whatever is in RED; is that advisable?

[ALwin]

Just now, AmbarChakrabarti said:

i already do. And i guess i will just go with better lenses.

 

Whatever is in RED; is that advisable?

What is a better lens?  If you only have the kit lens, yes there are some lenses that offer better capabilities than the kit 18-55 lens.  But of course they come with a price.  For example, these two lenses will be better than the 18-55 kit lens.  You also need to know which focal lengths you need for the task at hand.

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/425812-USA/Canon_1242B002AA_EF_S_17_55mm_f_2_8_IS.html

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/967344-REG/sigma_18_35mm_f1_8_dc_hsm.html

 

Oh and I forgot to mention in my previous comment, sometimes the limitation of a camera can be overcome with the utilization of photography techniques and tricks.  For example, low dynamic range sensor can be overcome by bracketing exposure and editing using HDR or Exposure Fusion techniques.

[.spider.]

11 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

in your opinion, yes. but like i said:

 

"Canon and Nikon flamewars will persist. It's fine to go with either."

The Nikon's sensor is just better. 

[bob345]

2 hours ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

in your opinion, yes. but like i said:

 

"Canon and Nikon flamewars will persist. It's fine to go with either."

the d5300 is a far better camera than the canon 1200d is pretty much every aspect and this is coming from a canon shooter. The 1200d is just a very poor performer especially by today's standards. The 700d/t5i is the cheapest i would go in the canon lineup of dslr's.

[ALwin]

50 minutes ago, bob345 said:

the d5300 is a far better camera than the canon 1200d is pretty much every aspect and this is coming from a canon shooter. The 1200d is just a very poor performer especially by today's standards. The 700d/t5i is the cheapest i would go in the canon lineup of dslr's.

While comparing the "technical" aspects of the camera, the D5300 is better than the 1200D, in the end it comes down to "in the right hands either camera is capable of taking great photos".  One of the photos below is taken by the D5300, one by the 1200D/T5 and one by a much older camera.

 

 

 

[ALwin]

Here are more photos from the same 3 cameras:

 

 

 

[ALwin]

@AmbarChakrabarti, if you need more reassurance that you did not make the wrong choice, read this discussion.

 

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00cvQA

[.spider.]

Worst example images of all time 

[bob345]

4 hours ago, ALwin said:

Here are more photos from the same 3 cameras:

It is definitely possible for a professional to get amazing results out of any camera, but it is very different when it comes to a beginner. The image quality is a non issue. The problem is usability and practicality from a beginners standpoint. How reliable is the auto focus? How is it in a dim environment?, how easy is it to use for a beginner?, how easy is it to share photos quickly? These are some of the things that may be more important to a beginner than what kind of images the camera can take when given to a professional photographer.

[Indus Monk]

5 hours ago, bob345 said:

It is definitely possible for a professional to get amazing results out of any camera, but it is very different when it comes to a beginner. The image quality is a non issue. The problem is usability and practicality from a beginners standpoint. How reliable is the auto focus? How is it in a dim environment?, how easy is it to use for a beginner?, how easy is it to share photos quickly? These are some of the things that may be more important to a beginner than what kind of images the camera can take when given to a professional photographer.

all that stuff is stuff i don't really care about anymore. It is usable, auto focus is best left OFF though, A dim environment can be dealt with 0.3 sec shutter speed and a tripod, It was actually not very hard to use at all, sharing stuff is easy due to the fact that i use a micro-sd card (but i think this objection is not necessary). As for what was important to me? learning to take stills and do it right. And hey, if the pros aren't worried about these things, then i am not either, even though i am just a beginner.

[Indus Monk]

5 hours ago, bob345 said:

It is definitely possible for a professional to get amazing results out of any camera, but it is very different when it comes to a beginner. The image quality is a non issue. The problem is usability and practicality from a beginners standpoint. How reliable is the auto focus? How is it in a dim environment?, how easy is it to use for a beginner?, how easy is it to share photos quickly? These are some of the things that may be more important to a beginner than what kind of images the camera can take when given to a professional photographer.

all that stuff is stuff i don't really care about anymore. It is usable, auto focus is best left OFF though, A dim environment can be dealt with 0.3 sec shutter speed and a tripod, It was actually not very hard to use at all, sharing stuff is easy due to the fact that i use a micro-sd card (but i think this objection is not necessary). As for what was important to me? learning to take stills and do it right. And hey, if the pros aren't worried about these things, then i am not either, even though i am just a beginner.