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Source: http://kotaku.com/amazon-releases-its-own-game-engine-for-free-1757995787

Amazon Releases Its Own Game Engine For Free

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Lumberyard, as Amazon calls it, is based on Crytek’s famous CryEngine, and can be used to develop games for both PC and consoles. It’s also free to download, and comes with “no seat fees, subscription fees, or requirements to share revenue.”

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Fees come in only, as Lumberyard’s official page notes, if the game takes advantage of the engine’s integration with Amazon Web Services for multiplayer. Besides AWS, the engine has specific features which target Twitch

So Lumberyard is basically a free version of CryEngine, I wonder how it compares to other game engines. It's currently in beta, so it's not quite finished yet but you can download it right here:

http://aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/downloads/

 

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Its based on Crytek but its free :S is there no licencing issue there?

But this could be superb for education :)

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Cool , another free game engine.

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4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Hopefully it doesn't have tessellation based on CryEngine...

AMD's got to get its ass in to gear and improve its GPU further (they started improving tessellation with Tonga/Fiji), so its actually good if they get pushed to improve part of their GPU architectures.

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2 minutes ago, XDroidie626 said:

Its based on Crytek but its free :S is there no licencing issue there?

But this could be superb for education :)

Pretty sure it's based on their free SDK.

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It is always nice to see things like this open for the public to use freely. I'm gonna have to check it out for sure. :)

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7 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

What they did to those rocks/objects was inexcusable. Looking at the wiremesh it is anything but 'pushing AMD for improvement'.

Might as well make a game that goes ham with compute shaders and say it pushes Nvidia for improvement.

It managed to get a game looking good years later while still taxing graphics cards. Also, compute shaders really aren't in high use in games or game engines at all. Tessellation is.

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30 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

So Lumberyard is basically a free version of CryEngine

CryEngine was Free until late 2013 when Crytek realised they couldn't hold together. Too bad they went under before finishing Homefront the Revolution, I don't think the company that's completing it has the same talent for great gameply, stability and insane graphics. Crytek had a thing for all that together even with the EA rush on the third game.

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4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

...in no part thanks to the overkill tessellation

 

It bugs me how you stubbornly defend this obviously jerk move against AMD...

I'm just stating the facts. Its not my fault AMD decided to focus on the wrong thing.

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this makes no sense i could understand autodesk getting into game engine business but amazon and with a copy of crygine gtfo

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5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Alright then I'll just put this here so everyone can see where AMD went wrong

 

 

 

Higher tessellation=finer details.

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2 minutes ago, deviant88 said:

this makes no sense i could understand autodesk getting into game engine business but amazon and with a copy of crygine gtfo

Honestly I'm not sure why people are surprised, they announced their own studio with devs that worked on Bioshock, WoW, Portal, Shadow of Mordor, Infamous, Half Life 2, Dota 2, L4D, Halo and The Last of Us. That's a pretty serious team out there. 

Now I'm interested if this is the game they were recruiting for. 

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33 minutes ago, deviant88 said:

this makes no sense i could understand autodesk getting into game engine business but amazon and with a copy of crygine gtfo

This is aimed at people making multiplayer games that use AWS infrastructure and Twitch integrations which are 2 biggest selling points after you take FREE for granted :D

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34 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Higher tessellation=finer details.

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46 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Higher tessellation=finer details.

Yeah, got to love those finer details you can't see because they're below ground. Idiot.

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Wow Amazon is getting their hands into everything these days.

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Gonna try to play around with this engine this weekend and see what's up.

 

I hope it's easier to work with than CryEngine apparently is.

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52 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

Yeah, got to love those finer details you can't see because they're below ground. Idiot.

Not all of them, and making an object fully allows more flexibility if you want to re-use it later.

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3 hours ago, XDroidie626 said:

Its based on Crytek but its free :S is there no licencing issue there?

But this could be superb for education :)

 

3 hours ago, Nineshadow said:

Pretty sure it's based on their free SDK.

It's actually a full version of CryEngine - source code included - with a modified networking system and ease-of-use changes. Amazon paid a big up-front fee along with future revenue sharing with Crytek for the ability to re-license the engine. 

 

As for the tessellation issue, apparently Crytek needed to force the DX11 patch out the door in the shortest time possible, so a lot of tessellation was added to objects in order to quickly increase quality. The effect on AMD GPUs wasn't massive though, 5-10FPS max afaik.

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Cool but Unreal Engine is free too. You only pay if your game is released with a price and is successful.

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5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

You lost me there bud

It does increase object quality, to certain point. The idea at the time was just to turn it up to 11 and throw out the patch, beyond the point that you'd see a quality difference. It has nothing to do with the engine and everything to do with the developer.

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7 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Not mention lots of them hidden underground?

If this doesn't scream sabotage I don't know what it is.

This point has been disproven already. When in-game, the renderer culls objects out of sight. When in wireframe mode, that object culling is disabled. Crytek even pointed this out themselves.

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3 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Or at least I hope that's the face you made when posting in this thread. 

 

I'm not sure you understand the impact tesselation can on graphics or have never used something like Heaven benchmark. 

Btw that is no vs max tesselation iirc.

 

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2 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Have a look at the vid I linked, so see how much better it made those objects appear.

I will when I get home, on phone atm. The part how better they look I leave to devs, and to engine. Btw I was talking tesselation in general. :)

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