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"Abbot's Internet" - Australia's Internet


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Posted · Original PosterOP

It is with a heavy heart I write this, but the coalition government appears to have one, along with a politician who thinks that 25Mbps up is a good thing and is cutting edge in Australia. Click Here to watch a video in relation to Abbot's internet.

 

What does this mean?

 

This means that the internet in Australia, which is already outdated, is going to be limited to copper speeds. Abbot's plan involves running fibre to the ends of the street and copper back to the homes, which results in 2 things:

-Slow internet

-TARDIS sized boxes at the end of each street

 

Abbot has successfully brought our country back in time.

Well done Abbot! You win! We loose!

 

Out of pure sadness, I have changed my business' homepage in protest of Abbot's Internet. Click Here to view.

 

What do you think about Australia and it's internet?


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Sorry for the language in advance:       Abbott's plan is nothing but half-arse bullshit. This is the reason nothing fucking gets done in Australia, because we like to leave jobs half finished for some other poor fucker to fix when Abbott's out of Government. Labor's plan was expensive, but it was future proof. Liberal's plan for 'Fibre to nodes' is complete and utter bullshit. Australia needs faster internet but this fucker is just too fucking lazy to understand what we really need.

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Dude i want more internet and i want it now...dont care how i get it and as long as its at a decent speed i couldn't give a fuck


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So from what i get is its going to be like FTTB ?

What you people don't understand is that fiber to your homes is not going to solve your slow internet problems, ordinary copper (as in cat5/6) can do 1gig. They are doing this because its expensive to put fiber switches at every end of the street and also that fiber is very fragile so to avoid consumers damaging it they are just giving you copper which is cheap and fast to repair.

Australia has horrible internet because its geologically in a sh*t place.

Most of EU is wired FTTB (Fiber to the building) and split off to copper connections for users and we are just now starting to hit bottlenecks with 10/100 switches that are in place to distribute that fiber connection so Australia is years and years away from any normal speeds however there is nothing you and the providers can do about the latency.

If i was wrong and they are going to deploy massive Coax networks then yes you are pretty much going back in time.


Something wrong with your connection ?

Run the damn cable :)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So from what i get is its going to be like FTTB ?

What you people don't understand is that fiber to your homes is not going to solve your slow internet problems, ordinary copper (as in cat5/6) can do 1gig. They are doing this because its expensive to put fiber switches at every end of the street and also that fiber is very fragile so to avoid consumers damaging it they are just giving you copper which is cheap and fast to repair.

Australia has horrible internet because its geologically in a sh*t place.

Most of EU is wired FTTB (Fiber to the building) and split off to copper connections for users and we are just now starting to hit bottlenecks with 10/100 switches that are in place to distribute that fiber connection so Australia is years and years away from any normal speeds however there is nothing you and the providers can do about the latency.

If i was wrong and they are going to deploy massive Coax networks then yes you are pretty much going back in time.

Rufee,

I agree with you in that cat5/6 can do gigabit, however our government is using the existing cat 3 &4 which is limited to (theoretically) 10 and 16 Mbps respectively.


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What i found out that any cable can now do 100, but not gig, its the interference that didn't let old equipment handle it.

But yeah my condolences for not being able to rip that old cable out and replace it by yourself.


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http://www.liberal.org.au/fast-broadband-and-affordable-nbn

 

Liberal even acknowledges that their plan is awful and that people will want faster internet than provided. On their own website


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The problem is the size of the network that has to be deployed/upgraded and with that comes the cost which will still be expensive for end users.

All the providers have to pitch in and help and the government must just throw more money at the problem if you ever want to see better speeds.


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Run the damn cable :)

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They are doing this because its expensive to put fiber switches at every end of the street and also that fiber is very fragile so to avoid consumers damaging it they are just giving you copper which is cheap and fast to repair.

That's actually a common misconception about fiber cables. Modern fiber cables are actually much stronger than UTP cables when it comes to pulling them (a cat 5 cable is rated for about 25 pounds of force while the majority of fiber cables can handle hundreds of pounds). Fiber cables can also be bent more than most people think (it's still not good to bend them too much) and a lot of good fiber cables are actually impossible to break by bending, because the cable on the outside isn't flexible enough to allow you to bend it until it breaks.

Fiber is also cheaper than copper cables. Not just because copper itself is really expensive (compared to plastic and glass that is used in fiber cables, and the price of copper just keeps rising), but because you don't need big and power hungry repeats for fiber (copper cables have quite limited distance so you need repeats everywhere) and also because they are much more power efficient (a lot of the power sent through copper cables are converted into heat because of the resistance in the cable).

 

Anyway, I agree that fiber to some switch, and then copper into the actual building is fine. We should invest more in fiber though, since our copper cables will be outdated within the near future (and there is still a lot of untapped potential in fiber cables still, we aren't even using what they are truly capable of).

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If they get everyone a 25 Mbps connection then it is not so bad if they actually start doing it soon.

I have 20 Mbps down and thats the fastest speed you can get where I live. A year ago I got 0.6 Mbps down and I know many who have still speed like that, so there is always someone with slower internet.

But as mentioned above the bigger problem for Australia is the connection to other countries (always low latency).

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