GeForce GTX Titan X utilization in content creation

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Hello

I'm just wanting to know how I can utilize the full power of a GeForce GTX Titan X for digital content creation such as 3ds Max. Like figuring out how to use the 12GB of VRAM and the fully unlocked GM200 architecture to fully accelerate my particular workflow especially rendering my projects in a timely manner while maintaining a high quality standard. Last semester I knew for me could have been better if the school computers had much beefier GPU's and I had my own computer of similar strength.

The first and foremost reason why I am considering a Titan X is so I am able to create 3D models and scenes of my wildest dreams, but can't since I am severely limited on power and the fact that the laptop I commonly use would, die. Again, being able to use the entirety of the Titan X like you would with the M6000 or the K6000 in 3ds Max.

Please no 980 Ti suggestions. I have seen more than enough of it.

[astranger200]

get a 980 ti

[Marinatall_Ironside]

get a 980 ti

The request was not to get a 980 Ti. Did you read what I asked politely about 980 Ti's? Clearly you didn't. Now I just want to know how to best use a Titan X to accelerate my 3ds Max workflow while maintaining a high degree of quality.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Also to tell someone like me who does content creation to get a 980 Ti for example when they asked how they can utilize the Titan X makes you look like a dick. I didn't ask what card should I get for content creation. I clearly asked how should I fully utilize a Titan X for that reason.

get a 980 ti

[don_svetlio]

Also to tell someone like me who does content creation to get a 980 Ti for example when they asked how they can utilize the Titan X makes you look like a dick. I didn't ask what card should I get for content creation. I clearly asked how should I fully utilize a Titan X for that reason.

Titan X is a gaming card.

Quadros are the work-grade cards. Look at those

[astranger200]

Also to tell someone like me who does content creation to get a 980 Ti for example when they asked how they can utilize the Titan X makes you look like a dick. I didn't ask what card should I get for content creation. I clearly asked how should I fully utilize a Titan X for that reason.

I do 1080p content creation on a 660 ti and an i3 YOU DONT NEED A TITAN X

[0wN3r]

Titan X is a gaming card.

Quadros are the work-grade cards. Look at those

Not entirely, they are also advertized as content creation cards for customers

[0wN3r]

Not entirely, they are also advertized as content creation cards for customers

Sorry, mean consumers* or in fact that they are customer-grade content creation focused cards [emoji14]

[Crowes]

Not entirely, they are also advertized as content creation cards for customers

 

Still, if he/she wants to "accelerate his workflow", he's far better with a Quadro or a FirePro.

[Najuno]

Hello

I'm just wanting to know how I can utilize the full power of a GeForce GTX Titan X for digital content creation such as 3ds Max. Like figuring out how to use the 12GB of VRAM and the fully unlocked GM200 architecture to fully accelerate my particular workflow especially rendering my projects in a timely manner while maintaining a high quality standard. Last semester I knew for me could have been better if the school computers had much beefier GPU's and I had my own computer of similar strength.

The first and foremost reason why I am considering a Titan X is so I am able to create 3D models and scenes of my wildest dreams, but can't since I am severely limited on power and the fact that the laptop I commonly use would, die. Again, being able to use the entirety of the Titan X like you would with the M6000 or the K6000 in 3ds Max.

Please no 980 Ti suggestions. I have seen more than enough of it.

Since I don´t create 3D content I can´t tell, all I do is benchmarking, compressing and video editing. But I did some research and came up with this thread from Tom´s Hardware. The last answer seems to be a guy that uses it professionally, so that might help you.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2724204/titan-980ti-rendering-gaming.html

[TheCaptain53]

get a 980 ti

Clearly didn't read the part about 3D rendering workflows, something which the Titan X would help with.

You guys are also forgetting that whilst a Quadro or Fire Pro would be better, they're also FAR more expensive. A Titan X is a good middleground between the mainstream cards and the workstation grade ones.

[don_svetlio]

Not entirely, they are also advertized as content creation cards for customers

Original Titan yes

TItan X no

Titan X is still maxwel and still sucks at direct compute

[harrynowl]

Original Titan yes

TItan X no

Titan X is still maxwel and still sucks at direct compute

Correct. Titan X doesn't have double precision which was the main selling point of the original titan in the content creation workspace. It's basically a pointless card to get money from people who don't want to wait for a 980ti launch imo

 

If you want a worthwile content creation card you need to go with Quadro or FirePro. Otherwise you're better off with the raw power offered by AMD based GPUs unless CUDA fits into your workflow.

[don_svetlio]

Correct. Titan X doesn't have double precision which was the main selling point of the original titan in the content creation workspace. It's basically a pointless card to get money from people who don't want to wait for a 980ti launch imo

Couldn't have said it better myself

[Glenwing]

The original Titans were given "workstation" advertisements as a backup in case anyone complained about the price, with un-gimped double precision performance so they would have something to point to (even though double precision is not used in most workstation applications, its more of a supercomputer/HPC thing). Once people got used to the idea of a $1000 top-tier card, they abandoned the facade entirely. The Titan X is and always has been marketed completely as a gaming card. It says "Inspired by gamers. Built by NVIDIA." on the box. It uses standard GeForce drivers. There is nothing about it that is more optimized for workstations than any other GeForce cards unless you count loads of VRAM.

The primary difference with a Quadro card is the drivers, which are very different. A lot of workstation applications are artificially limited to disable certain features (like RealView in SolidWorks) or use only a small percentage of the GPU's power (Premiere Pro) unless you have Quadro or FirePro recognized cards. In theory GeForce is just as good if you can fool the system into thinking its a Quadro and install Quadro drivers, but NVIDIA have been cracking down on this lately and I don't know of any way to circumvent it with recent generations (600 series and up) unless you want to solder resistors on the back of a 780 Ti

Long story short, the Titan X is a GeForce card like any other, the original Titans were the same. The 980 Ti is a much better value for anything unless the extra VRAM is crucial for something. Only an actual Quadro card can be utilized to its full potential in workstation applications.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

I do 1080p content creation on a 660 ti and an i3 YOU DONT NEED A TITAN X

For what I do yes. I have made a few projects that I couldn't render in a timely manner while maintaining a high quality standard. I use 3ds Max.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Correct. Titan X doesn't have double precision which was the main selling point of the original titan in the content creation workspace. It's basically a pointless card to get money from people who don't want to wait for a 980ti launch imo

 

If you want a worthwile content creation card you need to go with Quadro or FirePro. Otherwise you're better off with the raw power offered by AMD based GPUs unless CUDA fits into your workflow.

Even the Maxwell Quadros don't have double precision. The rendering algorithms in 3ds Max only goes up to single precision in the latest releases.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Clearly didn't read the part about 3D rendering workflows, something which the Titan X would help with.

You guys are also forgetting that whilst a Quadro or Fire Pro would be better, they're also FAR more expensive. A Titan X is a good middleground between the mainstream cards and the workstation grade ones.

That's correct. I really don't have that much cash walking around that I can snag a Quadro in my computer of reasonable power. So the Titan X is the best bet that I have. Remember if I am going to scale my own projects to larger than I have ever been capable of doing, I'm going to need something big.

Oh and if you haven't checked Autodesk's drivers be sure to, there are some GeForce drivers for certain cards too.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Correct. Titan X doesn't have double precision which was the main selling point of the original titan in the content creation workspace. It's basically a pointless card to get money from people who don't want to wait for a 980ti launch imo

 

If you want a worthwile content creation card you need to go with Quadro or FirePro. Otherwise you're better off with the raw power offered by AMD based GPUs unless CUDA fits into your workflow.

Yes I'm going to need CUDA since the software I use is CUDA-accelerated. 3ds Max is one such program.

[harrynowl]

Yes I'm going to need CUDA since the software I use is CUDA-accelerated. 3ds Max is one such program.

Then 980ti offers you the most for your money. Titan X has no compute advantage.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

This came from Tom's Hardware

I know this has been answered and you've probably bought your card a while ago but I believe the answers failed to cover every part of your question.

- 1. Worth it? Generally yes if you have the money and are using it in a professional settting. Render speeds will remain about the same, the card performance is very close to one another, but the extra VRAM allows you to double your scene complexity. Most GPU renderers are limited by the VRAM. I use Octane and work with large CAD file conversions and without optimizing it is pretty easy to hit the limit with a 980 ti (that's what I have and wish I had gotten the X). Keep in mind that even with a full 6GB you will not be allowed to utilize all of it for rendering due to card overhead. To give you an idea, and this is just a rough example but my 6GB Ti generally fails to load a scene when there are more than 14-16 million polygons but it varies depending on other loaded textures, etc. That sounds like plenty but with some instances, repetition, subdivision or heavy CAD conversions, I hit it more often than I'd like.

-2. SLI depends on the renderer. Currently with Octane in version 2.24 SLI is not supported, so I keep it off. Not sure about the other renderers.

- I am hoping in the upcoming versions it wont matter as much so that may be something to hold out for but for now it is definitely a factor. There are some tools out there currently to side load the textures for example but that only goes so far.

That's was the answer guys. The 12GB of VRAM will certainly help if I want to scale my projects to a whole new level and increase the complexity. The possibilities are endless. Also when I do get a Titan X and later on another one for SLI, I'm going to be squeezing as much life out of them as I can. I'm not looking for the next big thing considering the 12GB of VRAM as well.

[0wN3r]

Still, if he/she wants to "accelerate his workflow", he's far better with a Quadro or a FirePro.

Well, if we speak about crude performance, yes. Just remember that Quadros are way much more expensive, due to ECC memory, which is not that necessary when it comes to consumer aplications, and therefore he could buy more GPUs and SLI / Crossfire them to achieve better performance, than buy one, as powerful one, or slightly better. You made a good point though!

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Well, if we speak about crude performance, yes. Just remember that Quadros are way much more expensive, due to ECC memory, which is not that necessary when it comes to consumer aplications, and therefore he could buy more GPUs and SLI / Crossfire them to achieve better performance, than buy one, as powerful one, or slightly better. You made a good point though!

Well not just that they have ECC memory, they're validated to a much higher standard than their GeForce counterparts, which is why Quadros, like FirePros are certified by companies like Adobe, Autodesk, SolidWorks, etc. I do however plan on using Quadros in the future, but not for the applications right now in the present, so GeForce GPU's are the best in my situation because for $1,000 USD, I can get a Titan X rather than a Quadro M4000, but it won't last long on air unless I watercool them because like what I said, Quadros are best at rendering quality and precision and GeForce is best at frames-per-second.