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17 hours ago, iFreilicht said:

Soldering isn't very hard, but you do need a soldering iron for it. Watch a few tutorials on youtube, that's absolutely sufficient to learn the basics. Keyboards are one of the easiest things to solder.

 

As you can see, the ANSI enter can be replaced with an ISO one, and the long shift to the left can also be replaced with a short ISO shift. So yes, you can.

 

PCB mount switches have two plastic legs on the bottom that provide additional support. They are only required when the keyboard doesn't have a plate for the switches to click into. So the switches here will be plate mount. PCB mount switches can be converted into plate mount by simply snapping the two legs off.

 

For the backlighting, you will have to purchase LEDs. The underglow (LEDs on the backside of the board that light up the case, not the keycaps) is pre-installed.

You can swap out the springs of each switch to change the force-curve if you want, but you don't need to. Just getting the switches is enough.

SIP sockets are sockets you can install into the switches (which requires opening each switch) and solder to the PCB in place of LEDs. This allows you to then hot-swap LEDs without having to resolder them.

 

Keyboards are a deep rabbit-hole to dive into. I would recommend checking out the Mechcanical Keyboard subreddit. You can find lots of pictures there and some build-logs where people show how keyboards are built. Also check out skiwithpete's youtube channel, he has loads of build videos and a whole introduction to mechanical keyboards playlist. Really, searching around and seeing what others have built is the quickest way to learn what is possible.

 

Thank you, that's very helpful. What is the process for using this as an ISO UK board then, apart from using the correct keycaps obviously. Is that something in the firmware that has to be changed? Seems I would need to source different keycaps anyway as it says those ones don't include ISO, only ANSI.

 

I see how the backlighting works now, that RGB thing was throwing me. So ref the springs, you mean you could open up each switch and swap out the spring if you wanted? I am looking to buy some Cherry MX Red Silent switches (I've found a site that sells them) as I want as silent a typing experience as possible.

 

Yes, I'm finding it's a big rabbit hold indeed lol!


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Im rockin Romer-G switches on my G810 Orion. Cherry isn't the be all and end all of switches, you know :)


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Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

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1 hour ago, atomicus said:

 

Thank you, that's very helpful. What is the process for using this as an ISO UK board then, apart from using the correct keycaps obviously. Is that something in the firmware that has to be changed? Seems I would need to source different keycaps anyway as it says those ones don't include ISO, only ANSI.

 

I see how the backlighting works now, that RGB thing was throwing me. So ref the springs, you mean you could open up each switch and swap out the spring if you wanted? I am looking to buy some Cherry MX Red Silent switches (I've found a site that sells them) as I want as silent a typing experience as possible.

 

Yes, I'm finding it's a big rabbit hold indeed lol!

You'll probably want to re-do part of the firmware anyway, just so the right column of keys does exactly what you want. I don't think the sourcecode for the S65-X is available yet, so I don't know for sure whether the standard keymap has the ISO keys bound correctly or not, but I don't see why they would be excluded specifically. 

 

Yup, that's exactly what those springs are for. Personally I've never done it, and the effect it has is different on every switch. I believe the S65-X plate supports switch opening, so you don't have to worry about it know, you can swap the springs (and perform other mods on the switches) after soldering them in.

 

19 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

Im rockin Romer-G switches on my G810 Orion. Cherry isn't the be all and end all of switches, you know :)

Oh absolutely! Brown, Green and Blue switches are better bought from Gateron in my eyes than from Cherry.

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2 minutes ago, iFreilicht said:

You'll probably want to re-do part of the firmware anyway, just so the right column of keys does exactly what you want. I don't think the sourcecode for the S65-X is available yet, so I don't know for sure whether the standard keymap has the ISO keys bound correctly or not, but I don't see why they would be excluded specifically. 

 

Yup, that's exactly what those springs are for. Personally I've never done it, and the effect it has is different on every switch. I believe the S65-X plate supports switch opening, so you don't have to worry about it know, you can swap the springs (and perform other mods on the switches) after soldering them in.

 

Oh absolutely! Brown, Green and Blue switches are better bought from Gateron in my eyes than from Cherry.

exactly, Cherry just managed to build up a fanboyism fast enough that nobody is aware of other mechanical switches which are arguably better


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CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

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CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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2 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

exactly, Cherry just managed to build up a fanboyism fast enough that nobody is aware of other mechanical switches which are arguably better

 

Do Gateron do a quieter switch than the Cherry MX Red Silent though? I've never had much experience with Gaterons.


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5 minutes ago, atomicus said:

 

Do Gateron do a quieter switch than the Cherry MX Red Silent though? I've never had much experience with Gaterons.

Nah, they are more stiffer than cherry though, which is what I prefer

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4 minutes ago, Aytex said:

Nah, they are more stiffer than cherry though, which is what I prefer

 

Yes, I have found on Cherry switches the Nature White is just right for me regards pressure, Reds a bit light and Blacks a bit too much. Not many boards come with these though, and I can't seem to find them available to buy separately. Not sure if there is a Gateron that would be comparable to the Nature White? I definitely prefer linear, not tactile. I was planning on getting some of the Zealencio silencing clips for whatever switches I use, as I've read really good things about those... much better than o-rings. I want as silent a keyboard as possible.


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Just now, atomicus said:

 

Yes, I have found on Cherry switches the Nature White is just right for me regards pressure, Reds a bit light and Blacks a bit too much. Not many boards come with these though, and I can't seem to find them available to buy separately. Not sure if there is a Gateron that would be comparable to the Nature White? I was planning on getting some of the Zealencio silencing clips for whatever switches I use, as I've read really good things about those... much better than o-rings. I want as silent a keyboard as possible.

Mathias quiet pro is pretty damn quiet

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2 minutes ago, Aytex said:

Mathias quiet pro is pretty damn quiet

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Can you buy those switches separately?


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1 minute ago, Aytex said:

Meh, I doubt it..

 

You should take a look at zealios, kinda close to mx clear eargos

 

Yeah all the Zealios are tactile though, not linear. They are apparently releasing a linear later this year though, so they told me.


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Just bought a Tesoro Excalibur Spectrum RGB with MX Browns for my sister

The variation between each switch is disgusting

 

The Y and the H key, which border each other, sound NOTHING ALIKE


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1 hour ago, atomicus said:

Yes, I have found on Cherry switches the Nature White is just right for me regards pressure, Reds a bit light and Blacks a bit too much.

Well in that case you should consider a spring swap in the Silent Red. See whether you can find out what springs come close to the Nature Whites, and get those.

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1 hour ago, UberGamerKing said:

Just bought a Tesoro Excalibur Spectrum RGB with MX Browns for my sister

The variation between each switch is disgusting

 

The Y and the H key, which border each other, sound NOTHING ALIKE

Those aren't MX Browns, they're Kahil Browns. If you care about consistency, stay away from that brand.

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11 hours ago, DnFx91 said:

exactly, Cherry just managed to build up a fanboyism fast enough that nobody is aware of other mechanical switches which are arguably better

This was true for awhile, however Cherry recently retooled their machines, and are now making switches that are just as smooth, and equal to or higher quality than Gaterons.

New batches of Clears, Reds, Silvers, are much smoother than before and are almost equal to their Gateron versions, while being less wobbly and the clicky versions (RGB MX Blues) having a deeper, more tighter click than older versions.  The RGB MX Blues on my Ducky Shine 6 and YOTG feel absolutely splendid, and the key feel is substantially different than the VERY Scratchy RGB blues in my iKBC F108, for instance.  The iKBC feels almost like the clicker is vibrating or having some sort of metallic resonance and is higher pitched than on the Shine 6 and YOTM.  It's very noticeable and substantial.  I suspect complaints about the Corsair RGB blues came from these issues.

 

A Ducky rep admitted to me that Cherry has improved their manufacturing recently.

GH thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88031.0

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5 hours ago, DnFx91 said:

exactly, Cherry just managed to build up a fanboyism fast enough that nobody is aware of other mechanical switches which are arguably better

I wouldn't say that. Cherry were the inventor and sole provider of these switches for quite some time. Companies like Gateron only produce clone switches with MX stems since Cherry's patent ran out. So Cherry has a certain (deserved) reputation, but that has little to do with fanboys but more with the fact that companies that put Cherry switches in their boards actively advertise that while companies that have clones inside will just say "mechanical switches" in the advertisement material and only mention the actual brand in the specs. 

 

Sure, some people will argue that Cherry has higher quality in general, but that argument has little actual proof if any, and that group of people is very small. Some of the perceived fandom around Cherry switches also comes from vintage switches like vintage blacks or nixdorfs which have been actively used and are thus much smoother than factory-new switches. As cherry clones only started being made a few years ago, non-cherry vintage switches with MX stems simply don't exist. You do of course have vintage alps, but those are a separate beast.

 

Also, many people actually prefer the feel of Cherry switches over other brands when blind-testing, so it just comes down to preference.

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Woot, just got my Ducky Shine 6 Snow White Edition (Silver switch). I quite like this keyboard design. I thought maybe I would have trouble mistyping with the silver switches, but they're pretty good to me. I really like the white color of this keyboard and the RGBs are pretty vivid as well. Wow, though, the first thing I thought when I picked it up was that it couldn't be that heavy right? I picked it up and wow, it's very solid feeling, no flex what so ever. The floating keycaps feel really solid as well (no flexing or extra movement).

 

Well, RIP old Saitek Eclipse 3. This is my first run into the mechanical keyboard world and I'm really liking it. It's not crazy loud either, even bottomed out. I think I did good in getting this over the K70.

 

I did have a hard choice between the silver and red switches though. I thought maybe the silver would be too easy to set off / the short travel distance would be bad for me, but it fits me pretty well.

 

I just have to stop staring at this keyboard and get ready for my exam now....

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None of the Ducky Shines have any flex to them because they all have metal backplates the switches are mounted on.   Any keyboard with a metal backplate shouldn't flex.  I'm not sure if the backplate is made of aluminum or steel.

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14 hours ago, Falkentyne said:

None of the Ducky Shines have any flex to them because they all have metal backplates the switches are mounted on.   Any keyboard with a metal backplate shouldn't flex.  I'm not sure if the backplate is made of aluminum or steel.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. That would explain why this feels so solid despite it being plastic. I can flex my old keyboard pretty easy.

 

So far loving it. I've figured out most of the customization for the lights so I've got it how I like. I don't think I can look at membrane the same now. haha.

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Anyone know of a cherry keycap set with the typeface in comic sans? Preferrably backlit

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Nothing like this exists with translucent legends.  The closest you could even come to something like that are non gamer standard fonts like here:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1330

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1329

 

Or maybe this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBM92GQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(PLEASE find a different seller for these Kananic keycap sets (even kananic themselves if you can contact them in Chinese...the reseller Bossi sucks, screwed me over twice although I did manage to get a complete set).

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lately iv gotten addicted to retro keyboard reviews, its the best thing ever, sadly i cant buy them because i need the windows key a LOT so most of them are useless :( also almost all of them are expensive AF and i cant use Ebay to get them


I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally)...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

lately iv gotten addicted to retro keyboard reviews, its the best thing ever, sadly i cant buy them because i need the windows key a LOT so most of them are useless :( also almost all of them are expensive AF and i cant use Ebay to get them

same

 

 

I have a g910,and it fucking sucks

its like a less smooth version of MX reds to me (I was pretty disappointed about how it feels coming from a devastator 2 keyboard)


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36 minutes ago, themctipers said:

same

 

 

I have a g910,and it fucking sucks

its like a less smooth version of MX reds to me (I was pretty disappointed about how it feels coming from a devastator 2 keyboard)

i mainly like them for the sound, the clicky alps, buckling springs, clicky space invaders and so on are so much better sounding then MX blue. i like my browns i have now in my main keyboard but the tactile bump is so small on browns, its barely noticable sometimes. its HUGE in the way of feedback compared to reds but i use a MX blue keyboard at school and MX browns at home and compared to blues they feel liniar. id love for something like a brown with more click but not with the shitty trigger/liftof thing thats on blue switches and that are a louder aswell, i dont like the sound of blue much after hearing other switches it just sounds weak and tinny. also btw Hall efect switches are comming back, some chinese company are now selling pretty awesome Hall effect keyboards on Ali Express :D best smoth switches available from what i know, un beatable durability and ultimate smooth


I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally)...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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