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14 hours ago, Falkentyne said:

None of the Ducky Shines have any flex to them because they all have metal backplates the switches are mounted on.   Any keyboard with a metal backplate shouldn't flex.  I'm not sure if the backplate is made of aluminum or steel.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. That would explain why this feels so solid despite it being plastic. I can flex my old keyboard pretty easy.

 

So far loving it. I've figured out most of the customization for the lights so I've got it how I like. I don't think I can look at membrane the same now. haha.

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Nothing like this exists with translucent legends.  The closest you could even come to something like that are non gamer standard fonts like here:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1330

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1329

 

Or maybe this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBM92GQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(PLEASE find a different seller for these Kananic keycap sets (even kananic themselves if you can contact them in Chinese...the reseller Bossi sucks, screwed me over twice although I did manage to get a complete set).

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lately iv gotten addicted to retro keyboard reviews, its the best thing ever, sadly i cant buy them because i need the windows key a LOT so most of them are useless :( also almost all of them are expensive AF and i cant use Ebay to get them

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

lately iv gotten addicted to retro keyboard reviews, its the best thing ever, sadly i cant buy them because i need the windows key a LOT so most of them are useless :( also almost all of them are expensive AF and i cant use Ebay to get them

same

 

 

I have a g910,and it fucking sucks

its like a less smooth version of MX reds to me (I was pretty disappointed about how it feels coming from a devastator 2 keyboard)

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138 is a good number.

 

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36 minutes ago, themctipers said:

same

 

 

I have a g910,and it fucking sucks

its like a less smooth version of MX reds to me (I was pretty disappointed about how it feels coming from a devastator 2 keyboard)

i mainly like them for the sound, the clicky alps, buckling springs, clicky space invaders and so on are so much better sounding then MX blue. i like my browns i have now in my main keyboard but the tactile bump is so small on browns, its barely noticable sometimes. its HUGE in the way of feedback compared to reds but i use a MX blue keyboard at school and MX browns at home and compared to blues they feel liniar. id love for something like a brown with more click but not with the shitty trigger/liftof thing thats on blue switches and that are a louder aswell, i dont like the sound of blue much after hearing other switches it just sounds weak and tinny. also btw Hall efect switches are comming back, some chinese company are now selling pretty awesome Hall effect keyboards on Ali Express :D best smoth switches available from what i know, un beatable durability and ultimate smooth

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

i mainly like them for the sound, the clicky alps, buckling springs, clicky space invaders and so on are so much better sounding then MX blue. i like my browns i have now in my main keyboard but the tactile bump is so small on browns, its barely noticable sometimes. its HUGE in the way of feedback compared to reds but i use a MX blue keyboard at school and MX browns at home and compared to blues they feel liniar. id love for something like a brown with more click but not with the shitty trigger/liftof thing thats on blue switches and that are a louder aswell, i dont like the sound of blue much after hearing other switches it just sounds weak and tinny. also btw Hall efect switches are comming back, some chinese company are now selling pretty awesome Hall effect keyboards on Ali Express :D best smoth switches available from what i know, un beatable durability and ultimate smooth

I spent $1500+ on building my pc and all I do is browse LTT and listen to music

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138 is a good number.

 

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12 hours ago, themctipers said:

I spent $1500+ on building my pc and all I do is browse LTT and listen to music

basically the same, but you went to another level with it lol. and i also do semi pro Paladins i guess

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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I'am a mostly FPS gamer and I find myself hiting the keyboard a lot when playing as my workspace is pretty small, I have decide to purchese a 10 keyless keyboard and was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions. Thanks.

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6 minutes ago, ApexFT said:

I'am a mostly FPS gamer and I find myself hiting the keyboard a lot when playing as my workspace is pretty small, I have decide to purchese a 10 keyless keyboard and was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions. Thanks.

K65

Pok3r

Masterkeys S

Quickfire

Magicforce 68

Anne Pro

Ducke one TKL

MK Disco

WASD Code 61/87

Leopold FC750R

 

orr, DIY a 60% keeb (More expensive though)

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Aytex' suggestions are good, but none of them are actually in the TKL form factor, more like 65% and 60%. Going from his suggestions, if you need arrow keys, I'd recommend going with a 65% like the Magicforce 68 (which is a very good keyboard in general) or building a 60% yourself to include arrows.

 

If you do indeed want a real TKL board to get the full nav-cluster and arrows, you should take a look at the Masterkeys Pro S or see whether you can get a QuickFire Rapid (now discontinued). The cool thing about the QFR is that you can exchange the controller to make it programmable. Either of those boards are well built. They are a little bigger than Aytex' suggestions, however. There are of course other TKLs, but if you want a good board for the price, Cooler Master is a very solid choice. If you're on a budget, I'd go for the Lioncast LK20.

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Still rocking my Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja with Cherry MX Browns. It's been three(?) years. Still an absolutely killer keyboard, but I'm interested in using a keyboard with Cherry MX Reds some day soon.

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I just bought a Varmillo VA12M switch tester but it didn't come with caps.  Is it okay to use cheap caps for testing to see which switch I like?  I found a clear set of 9 for $7.  I figured for the extra 3 needed I could swap the caps around.

Thanks in advance

 

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honestly im getting a bit anoyed at how scratchy my K70 with brows is. anyone know any nice and cheap keyboards with alps or something? 100% and windows key needed and i can probably not use ebay because my paypal got nuked -_- 

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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finally joined the mechanical keyboard master race today. finally got my k95 rgb with brown switches. i didnt know how heavy and terrible the membrane  switches on my old dell keyboard felt until i used it after using the brown switches for only a few minutes.

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On 4/10/2017 at 9:04 AM, jefferz said:

I just bought a Varmillo VA12M switch tester but it didn't come with caps.  Is it okay to use cheap caps for testing to see which switch I like?  I found a clear set of 9 for $7.  I figured for the extra 3 needed I could swap the caps around.

Thanks in advance

 

Ideally, you should use caps similar to the ones you'll be using on your planned keyboard. Thicker keycaps will weigh more and thus the switch will feel lighter. But if you just want a general idea, cheap caps are absolutely fine.

 

On 4/10/2017 at 10:42 AM, Bananasplit_00 said:

honestly im getting a bit anoyed at how scratchy my K70 with brows is. anyone know any nice and cheap keyboards with alps or something? 100% and windows key needed and i can probably not use ebay because my paypal got nuked -_- 

Does it have Cherry MX Browns or clones of some sort? You might want to look into either getting a board with Gateron Browns, which are much less scratchy than Cherries, or opening your switches to lube the stems. There are no currently available cheap boards with alps switches. The only manufacturer who still makes stock boards with Alps mount switches is Matias, and while their mechanical boards are affordable, they certainly aren't cheap to buy.

Your only other options to get Alps are vintage boards like the AEK2 or getting a kit to build an alps keyboard yourself. But really, if it's just the scratchiness, try out lubing.

 

15 hours ago, asim1999 said:

finally joined the mechanical keyboard master race today. finally got my k95 rgb with brown switches. i didnt know how heavy and terrible the membrane  switches on my old dell keyboard felt until i used it after using the brown switches for only a few minutes.

Yeah I feel like Dell had particularly bad rubber domes. The ones on my Sidewinder X6 are still pretty good, even after using Gateron Browns for a long time.

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17 minutes ago, iFreilicht said:

 

Does it have Cherry MX Browns or clones of some sort? You might want to look into either getting a board with Gateron Browns, which are much less scratchy than Cherries, or opening your switches to lube the stems. There are no currently available cheap boards with alps switches. The only manufacturer who still makes stock boards with Alps mount switches is Matias, and while their mechanical boards are affordable, they certainly aren't cheap to buy.

Your only other options to get Alps are vintage boards like the AEK2 or getting a kit to build an alps keyboard yourself. But really, if it's just the scratchiness, try out lubing.

 

K70s come with genuine Cherry switches, they are also PCB mounted so i dont even know if i can lube them properly, Matias boards are pretty cool tbh but too expensive for me, id be fine with an old board to rob the switches from or just to use as long as it dosent look like garbage and still has windows keys(which most old boards dont have -_-). for now i think il just wait untill hall efect switches come in a clicky variant(yes, there is a chinese company that have started makeing hall efekt switches again :D) and just get a board with those. Browns are fine for now, i removed the O-rings i have used and its quite a bit nicer to type on.

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

K70s come with genuine Cherry switches, they are also PCB mounted so i dont even know if i can lube them properly,

I am fairly certain that those are plate mounted, that board has a low profile case. If they were PCB mount, you could easily open the switch top, but looking at the pictures now, that doesn't seems to be possible without desoldering.

 

2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Matias boards are pretty cool tbh but too expensive for me, id be fine with an old board to rob the switches from or just to use as long as it dosent look like garbage and still has windows keys(which most old boards dont have -_-).

If you look long enough, that might be your best bet then. Yeah especially Apple Keyboards are known for their lack of a Windows key :D

 

2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

for now i think il just wait untill hall efect switches come in a clicky variant(yes, there is a chinese company that have started makeing hall efekt switches again :D) and just get a board with those.

Well the linear XMIT boards were all at least 100$ as well and are said to be 150$ in the future, so you're not really saving money with that. They also had a few quality issues but that was sorted out quite well from what I've heard.

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i love my G810 orion, and i get a little ego-rub when i see that Linus nearly always uses a G810 in his B-roll :D

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44 minutes ago, iFreilicht said:

I am fairly certain that those are plate mounted, that board has a low profile case. If they were PCB mount, you could easily open the switch top, but looking at the pictures now, that doesn't seems to be possible without desoldering.

 

If you look long enough, that might be your best bet then. Yeah especially Apple Keyboards are known for their lack of a Windows key :D

 

Well the linear XMIT boards were all at least 100$ as well and are said to be 150$ in the future, so you're not really saving money with that. They also had a few quality issues but that was sorted out quite well from what I've heard.

well i have removed one of the switches in my keyboard lol, esc broke so i stole pause/break :P 

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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NONE of the corsair boards are PCB mounted.  And there is only ONE Consumer level board in existence that is mass marketed (meaning: not limited or made to order) that is PCB mounted.  There are very big disadvantages to PCB mount boards.  The only advantage is removing switch tops, and when hot swappable keyboards become more mainstream, there will soon be no advantage.  Once Ducky makes a hotswappable keyboard (I asked them about it on Skype, but they said there are issues with reliability of the sockets), it's game over.

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I think i got chatter key on my "R" Key, how on earth am i suppose to resolve this successfully without sending it to corsair support??

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On 4/13/2017 at 10:53 PM, Falkentyne said:

NONE of the corsair boards are PCB mounted.  And there is only ONE Consumer level board in existence that is mass marketed (meaning: not limited or made to order) that is PCB mounted.  There are very big disadvantages to PCB mount boards.  The only advantage is removing switch tops, and when hot swappable keyboards become more mainstream, there will soon be no advantage.  Once Ducky makes a hotswappable keyboard (I asked them about it on Skype, but they said there are issues with reliability of the sockets), it's game over.

Even the advantage of switch top removal is only there in comparison to boards with plates that don't allow switch opening. Many DIY kits and universal plates (with support for MX and Alps) already allow switch removal, though that is not the case for any mass produced keyboard at this point, I believe.

But, I wouldn't say there are a lot of disadvantages to PCB mount either. Some people prefer the feel of not having a stiff plate, though I believe that is a minority, and PCB mount saves on material and thus cost. But you're absolutely correct that most PCB mount keyboards are mostly DIY boards, not mass marketed consumer boards.

 

On 4/16/2017 at 0:53 AM, Ramen Man said:

I think i got chatter key on my "R" Key, how on earth am i suppose to resolve this successfully without sending it to corsair support??

If you can solder or have a friend who can, opening up the board and replacing that switch would be enough. You wouldn't even necessarily have to buy a new one, you could just swap it with one where you don't care about chatter, like PrintScreen or ScrollLock.

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