Low image quality on newer GPUs

[MEC-777]

I think there's a memory leak as it uses all 6g of mine as well. I didn't see a performance hit because of it but the memory was used.

 

Me thinks the game needs a patch or a few optimization/driver updates to run a little better.

 

If it's using all 6gigs on your Ti, then yeah, something's not right. 1440 shouldn't use 2 extra gigs of Vram over 1080p. Need to check my system ram usage as well. Maybe 8gigs isn't cutting it anymore...

[App4that]

Me thinks the game needs a patch or a few optimization/driver updates to run a little better.

If it's using all 6gigs on your Ti, then yeah, something's not right. 1440 shouldn't use 2 extra gigs of Vram over 1080p. Need to check my system ram usage as well. Maybe 8gigs isn't cutting it anymore...

When I first played it all 6g were used. I left the game and came back and only 3G were used. This is also when I disabled Vsync in the RTR options menu. Basically removing Vsync in the game's display(I think) options menu fixed everything for me. And I never had a issue with screen tear. Is that because the global option took care of Vsync? No idea but it worked. Gained 10fps by disabling it.

[MEC-777]

When I first played it all 6g were used. I left the game and came back and only 3G were used. This is also when I disabled Vsync in the RTR options menu. Basically removing Vsync in the game's display(I think) options menu fixed everything for me. And I never had a issue with screen tear. Is that because the global option took care of Vsync? No idea but it worked. Gained 10fps by disabling it.

 

If you have Vsync turned off (set to "let application decide") in NVCP global settings, then what ever you set, in game, will be what you get. I'm just not sure why some games run well and don't show much screen tearing at all (like PCars), while others (like AC Black Flag) screen tear like CRAZY when Vsync is off. Glad to hear this game isn't like Black Flag. Will try it out in a few minutes and see if that fixes the frame rate drops and Vram hogging issue.

[App4that]

If you have Vsync turned off (set to "let application decide") in NVCP global settings, then what ever you set, in game, will be what you get. I'm just not sure why some games run well and don't show much screen tearing at all (like PCars), while others (like AC Black Flag) screen tear like CRAZY when Vsync is off. Glad to hear this game isn't like Black Flag. Will try it out in a few minutes and see if that fixes the frame rate drops and Vram hogging issue.

Yes, I use that setting in global so you're right.

Fallout 4 tears like a MF so yeah I'm with you on that. Until proven otherwise I'll simply commend the developer on a job well done.

[iamdarkyoshi]

I think king @LinusTech should test this if he hasnt already

[FruitBasketSilex]

Well, here's the first video showing the, what I believe to be, broken version of the 9800gt. I made it just in case I would need it to compare it with the next 9800gt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPw1v3_AaJs

sorry for the engurish, not a native speaker

I believe there were a few problems with the other 9800gt such as artifacting, but I'm confident I can get that fixed quickly. Once that's done I'll record a video on that card immediately, again showing all settings.

You're really not looking good here

All youve provided is heresay and accusions against NVIDIA. You haven't provided a single but if evidence, contradict yourself several times, and on top of that, you post a video that you immediately removed.

What the hell, man?

[Denisix]

[MarkFMB]

Holy mother of god when you switch into that "special vision" mode those stair look as ugly as can be, real playstation 1 quality there . Rest of the game/normal vision looks pretty cool though. It's nice to see that newer games with newer engines suffer a lot less from our problem... even as they still have those surfaces or those moments (like this special vision here) where it's still coming out and punching you in the face to do a reality check.

Have you tried with DSR (i see your're not using it in the vid)? That might make it better but i guess DSR on that game will be a lot "expensive" fps-wise to run unless you have a sli.

Anyway, clearly changing your AA ingame does nothing to modify or lessen the issue. Tried with NCP? Or Nvidia Inspector? If that doesn't work either i guess we can confirm AA is really broken on some surfaces for our pcs... which keeps sounding more and more like drivers are to blame here. Why are we not being able to get rid of this by formatting though? I'm losing my sleep over this...

[Denisix]

On 30.01.2016 at 6:39 AM, MarkFMB said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgzebQfsTvA&feature=youtu.be

Holy mother of god when you switch into that "special vision" mode those stair look as ugly as can be, real playstation 1 quality there :o. Rest of the game/normal vision looks pretty cool though. It's nice to see that newer games with newer engines suffer a lot less from our problem... even as they still have those surfaces or those moments (like this special vision here) where it's still coming out and punching you in the face to do a reality check.

Have you tried with DSR (i see your're not using it in the vid)? That might make it better but i guess DSR on that game will be a lot "expensive" fps-wise to run unless you have a sli.

Anyway, clearly changing your AA ingame does nothing to modify or lessen the issue. Tried with NCP? Or Nvidia Inspector? If that doesn't work either i guess we can confirm AA is really broken on some surfaces for our pcs... which keeps sounding more and more like drivers are to blame here. Why are we not being able to get rid of this by formatting though? I'm losing my sleep over this...

The fact that I have to this problem I have only used fxaa and this shit was not even close ... I think some bug with the drivers

[MEC-777]

3 hours ago, Denisix said:

The fact that I have to this problem I have only used fxaa and this shit was not even close ... I think some bug with the drivers

Yeah, there's something not right with the AA settings in this game. Perhaps a patch or driver update will address the issue. 

I'm now running the game at 1440p DSR on high preset (pure hair on very high) and FXAA. Looks much better/sharper and still runs at 60fps. :)

[duzy_wonsz]

I didn't read any previous posts, but I've just recently bought a GTX 960 4GB (Coming from GTX 770 2GB) expecting something great, but I've just hit a wall of BlueScreens, Terrible Performance and Awfull Quality.

After about 2 weeks I'm unable to start a game, because it doesn't crash only itself, but also voice communication programs like discord/teamspeak. You cannot even press anything when it shows up for a split second:

 

There were also some random BlueScreens. Settings reseting itself. Short FPS drops. Disability to use OBS (QuickSync, NVENC), because of FPS drops above 100FPS. + Downgrading drivers makes the card work better... WTF? Are you serious? I bought a card that was supposed to be better, but instead I get crap...

[MEC-777]

2 minutes ago, duzy_wonsz said:

I didn't read any previous posts, but I've just recently bought a GTX 960 4GB (Coming from GTX 770 2GB) expecting something great, but I've just hit a wall of BlueScreens, Terrible Performance and Awfull Quality.

After about 2 weeks I'm unable to start a game, because it doesn't crash only itself, but also voice communication programs like discord/teamspeak. You cannot even press anything when it shows up for a split second:

 

There were also some random BlueScreens. Settings reseting itself. Short FPS drops. Disability to use OBS (QuickSync, NVENC), because of FPS drops above 100FPS. + Downgrading drivers makes the card work better... WTF? Are you serious? I bought a card that was supposed to be better, but instead I get crap...

2 things to try:

#1 Download and run a program called DDU to remove all current and previous Nvidia drivers. Then re-install the latest drivers and try again. 

#2 Go into steam library, right-click on track mania > properties > local files > verify integrity of local game cache. Let it do it's thing and then try again. 

Try it in that order. Let us know if this fixed the issue. This isn't really related to the problems being discussed in this thread, but that is where I would start to try and fix those problems. 

Also, you mentioned using OBS? Try using Shadowplay instead. On my system it has almost zero performance hit when recording. ;)

[duzy_wonsz]

@MEC-777
#1 Done twice already
#2 Done already

Shadowplay offers lower quality than what I used to get with OBS + QuickSync.

+Just so you know, I know what I'm doing. I have both IT and Electronics speciality. I know I have made a terrible deal buying this GTX 960...


Well Nevermind... Now none want to start and have the same issue... WTF?!

[MEC-777]

1 minute ago, duzy_wonsz said:

@MEC-777
#1 Done twice already
#2 Done already

 

Shadowplay offers lower quality than what I used to get with OBS + QuickSync.

You tried Shadowplay using it's highest quality setting? Because when I do, it looks pretty good, IMO. 

Problem with OBS is the performance hit. Sure you can get better quality, but it hammers your system in doing so. 

[duzy_wonsz]

@MEC-777

QuickSync has no performance hit what so ever. Not even 1 FPS less. While also looking way better than Shadowplay.
But it used to work on my 770. While now it makes games unplayable.

[MEC-777]

Just now, duzy_wonsz said:

@MEC-777

QuickSync has no performance hit what so ever. Not even 1 FPS less. While also looking way better than Shadowplay.
But it used to work on my 770. While now it makes games unplayable.

Now sure what to tell you. Have you tried shadowplay? Just to see if it works?

[duzy_wonsz]

@MEC-777

Dude. You serious?
" Shadowplay offers lower quality than what I used to get with OBS + QuickSync"
" looking way better than Shadowplay"

Isn't it enough to tell that I've tried it? And even that I have to use it now, because OBS doesn't work?
You are thinking too much, is what I think ;)

[MEC-777]

Just now, duzy_wonsz said:

@MEC-777

Dude. You serious?
" Shadowplay offers lower quality than what I used to get with OBS + QuickSync"
" looking way better than Shadowplay"

Isn't it enough to tell that I've tried it?

Easy man. I'm just asking a question.

You didn't specify if you tried shadowplay since upgrading to the 960. I though you were talking past-tense, as in - when you had the 770. 

[MarkFMB]

Not to be THAT GUY, but this topic is already filled with speculations, doubts and unsolved misteries, so it would be better to keep it clean from issues that don't concern the matter at hand duzy-wonsz. Just open another topic to ask for help with graphical issues for specific games or general blue screens / driver failures and i'm sure there'll be plenty of people willing to help.

Here the topic is not about any graphic error your card or drivers might have, it's about people with seemingly broken AA on their systems experiencing very specific shimmering, staircase effects and white jaggies, all complemented by some low res shadow glithces and for some texture pop-ins in ANY softawre or video being played/run.

[MarkFMB]

Just had a casual search on google cause you never know when someone might have a breakthrough somewhere else. Found nothing new alas, but the posts, also on other forums, of people complaining of this issue are start to pile up by the dozens on the net. Just Tomshardware forums have tens and tens identical posts of people complaining of this issue. Just randomly google "shimmering in all games" "bad draw distance in all games" etc.etc.

I reallly really think this has something to go with either: 1 a small incompatiblity between some hardware and/or softwares installed on a pc. This could explain why some pcs get it, most don't OR 2 a broken driver/directx issue on some rigs.

Just hoping from the jump in visibility this issue is having, with all the new daily cases and people asking for help (not that i'm a fan of other people having issues, mind it), someone finds out something and or really big tech savvies start investigating it seriously. I really wonder if linus ever stumbled in here yet...

[Denisix]

At us in Russia such is full of and every day more and more new people with the same problem and nobody knows the solution unfortunately!!!

[daraga123]

Guys any news?

[FruitBasketSilex]

 

13 minutes ago, daraga123 said:

Guys any news?

No, and there probably won't ever be.

 

None of us are even sure this problem really exists, not to mention, we've got forty different problems being talked about.

 

I'm not surprised this topic hit the 3rd page. Everyone that wants to help knows that there's no point. We've tried reighning you guys in, but you all spout on about different problems, making our job impossible.

[daraga123]

7 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

 

No, and there probably won't ever be.

 

None of us are even sure this problem really exists, not to mention, we've got forty different problems being talked about.

 

I'm not surprised this topic hit the 3rd page. Everyone that wants to help knows that there's no point. We've tried reighning you guys in, but you all spout on about different problems, making our job impossible.

Well,so this is the end? No another topic no specific help no nothing? Goobye gaming.

[MEC-777]

12 minutes ago, daraga123 said:

Well,so this is the end? No another topic no specific help no nothing? Goobye gaming.

As far as I'm concerned and after all the research, testing and discussions, I'm convinced that no problem exists in regards to which some here have described. We have seen no evidence to support these claims that cannot be explained by any known facts/information we have available. (we know about the LOD bias problem which is a non-issue at this point). 

 

There's really nothing else left to say.