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Demiqas

Hi everyone, first of all, i'm french so bare with me if you have trouble to understand me :P

 

Since a week or so, i'm encountering the same issue that some people are having, as explained here or back to the old NVIDIA topic i also red. Shimmering textures with bad aliasing, thought its not the worst for me, i was used to play in 768p not even a year ago. The thing that bothers me the most is the LOD/draw distance and shadows rendering very close, totally broken, that happened out of the blue, and even sometimes it seems like a lighting issue (specifically on The Witcher 3, but this game is getting worse as more as its getting patched it seems). And that's not because i'm paying attention just now to the details or such, i actually play a lot of games, for the gameplay and story of course, but also for exploration when it comes to open world, for better immersion.

 

A month ago i finished AC IV Black Flag and two weeks ago The Witcher 2, without having those issues (intense pop-in of textures/meshes and shadows), and sadly now it's happening. There is even a weird grainy effect in some games. I just can't explain how it happened suddenly. I didn't change my graphic card, i'm on a ROG laptop with a GTX 860M, that i bought approx. 6 months ago. I was on 355.82 Nvidia drivers, cleanly reverting back to old drivers or install new ones didn't fix the issue, as well as formating Win 8.1. I actually didn't upgrade to Win10. I thought also about a DX driver issue, still the same after reinstalling. It just so happens a day, just like that, and like all the people having this problem, i can't explain neither understand why.

 

There is also a hardware french board where some people experience this. So I join you guys here as well, in case a solution will be found, or it will fix by itself, just like it never happened.

 

(And i add, it will be pretty worthless to advise me DSR, since i'm on Optimus based laptop, and my GFX is pretty weak considering this option :D).

 

Thanks for sharing and welcome to the LTT forums. :) 

 

Would you happen to have some screenshots or gameplay footage you could provide to show us the difference in image quality, before and after the issue?

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I have no idea what you're on about in relation to blue screens. I have not had any artifacts or screen issues unless I overclock my GPU too far which I fix immediately. I've had GTX 650 Ti, 760 and now 970. No performance issues whatsoever.

 

Is it not possible that Nvidia is just hiding posts that invite bad PR instead of just trying to cover up a conspiracy? I don't know what it is with humans and constantly looking for conspiracies.

 

The fact of the matter is that GPU technology has become extremely complicated. I certainly don't understand it all myself but I know that when you are trying to find the most efficient method of getting maxium performance for less power you have to come up with different methods for achieving the same results. There are probably a million technical reasons why getting rid of one feature actually benefits performance in other ways.

 

This is especially true when talking about older games. It's not as if the older NVidia cards have any capability whatsoever of running a game like GTA V, a game that I think looks beautiful on my 970. Can it look even better with a few extra lines of code? Well I'd need some more technical proof of that than a couple of images from a very old game.

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Thanks for sharing and welcome to the LTT forums. :)

 

Would you happen to have some screenshots or gameplay footage you could provide to show us the difference in image quality, before and after the issue?

 

Thanks.

 

Well, i do have old screenshots, but not so much since i have this laptop, some date back to my previous laptop. I could try to take some as the same spot, but even so it's gonna be hard to notice the issue on a picture, specifically the draw distance issue. As for recording, it's pretty much a hard task for me, i could try to do a Shadowplay quick video, but the quality might be too bad to figure anything odd, and will take me hours to upload with my connection. See what i can do anyway.

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Thanks.

 

Well, i do have old screenshots, but not so much since i have this laptop, some date back to my previous laptop. I could try to take some as the same spot, but even so it's gonna be hard to notice the issue on a picture, specifically the draw distance issue. As for recording, it's pretty much a hard task for me, i could try to do a Shadowplay quick video, but the quality might be too bad to figure anything odd, and will take me hours to upload with my connection. See what i can do anyway.

 

It would be best if we could have a before (when you first got the new laptop) vs after (now that these issues have come up) screenshots or game footage so we can compare apples to apples. 

 

Try recording a sample of game play with shadowplay on high quality. It only has to be a very short clip (5-10 seconds) just long enough to show the issue you want us to see. We also need to know the resolution and a complete list of the graphics settings you're running the game at. 

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No screenshots before and after could actually show my draw distance issue, i will however play few games tomorrow and try to take some screens, see if it can be seen (but jpeg sucks pretty much). As for game footage, never actually recorded anything since i have this laptop, but i just did a minute of footage on Witcher 2, clearly showing meshes pop-in, i will add the video once it's done uploading. I can say, few weeks ago, when i replayed the whole campaign, that i never encountered an issue that bad. And it happens to be in other games i actually played before too.

 

Options: http://i64.tinypic.com/2jcj4ih.png

 

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No screenshots before and after could actually show my draw distance issue, i will however play few games tomorrow and try to take some screens, see if it can be seen (but jpeg sucks pretty much). As for game footage, never actually recorded anything since i have this laptop, but i just did a minute of footage on Witcher 2, clearly showing meshes pop-in, i will add the video once it's done uploading. I can say, few weeks ago, when i replayed the whole campaign, that i never encountered an issue that bad. And it happens to be in other games i actually played before too.

 

Options: http://i64.tinypic.com/2jcj4ih.png

 

 

 

Yep, I definitely see the pop-in of objects and shadows/textures etc. Some of it fairly close to the character as well. Just to be sure; you have draw distance set to maximum in game settings, no? Also, what settings are you running and at what resolution? 

 

Also curious; what did you use to record that? Only reason I ask is because the screen/image does some strange things (zooming in/out, shifting etc.) in that footage.

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Draw distance is definitely to the max, resolution is 1920x1080p, i put an image link with my witcher 2 settings just above the video.

 

As for the screen doing strange things, this i don't know, it was not here when I recorded, maybe an issue coming from Youtube processing video, i used Shadowplay and got none on that when i watched it on VLC.

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I had noticed that when the gpu quality goes to shit draw distance settings don't work anymore, it's as if it is always at extremely low. I noticed this in all the games I played, except for skyrim where you could just increase uStableGridsToLoad, altough this only affected the LOD of some of the bigger objects. Terrains still transformed almost right in front of me. For me it was especially noticable in Sleeping Dogs nevertheless. When the GPU worked properly, buildings in the distance would look nice and properly rendered. I first started picking up on this issue when after the gpu quality went to shit, buildings in the distance were all grey (due to the LOD colors) and transformed as I moved towards them, which was not the case before.

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Draw distance is definitely to the max, resolution is 1920x1080p, i put an image link with my witcher 2 settings just above the video.

 

As for the screen doing strange things, this i don't know, it was not here when I recorded, maybe an issue coming from Youtube processing video, i used Shadowplay and got none on that when i watched it on VLC.

 

What are you using for the settings for this game? The graphics setting menu for this game looks different on my PC. Doesn't have number values for everything like that. 

 

I think what happened with the footage is youtube will sometimes auto-detect if your video "looks" shaky and will attempt to fix or smooth it out. I think that's what happened with the wonky image movement. It tried to auto-stabilize the video. ;) Usually youtube will ask if you want your video to be auto-stabilized, I always select "no". 

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It's definitely a youtube problem for the shaky camera.

 

As for the real Witcher 2 panel options, here you go, sorry i used to run the tweaker to get rid of sharpness.

 

http://i65.tinypic.com/jsk951.png

 

I might try Sleeping Dogs later just to see how bad it can be, really weird thought, even now when i watch youtube videos in 1080p, when in motion, it looks like 480p. I hope it's not coming from my card, thought i would have had BSODs or such, and games runs normally smooth, despite that rendering issue.

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Take a look at this footage I uploaded last week. Tell me if you guys see any of these "issues" going on. Settings are 1080p ultra with FXAA off, SMAA ultra and DS4X AA applied. 

 

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It's definitely a youtube problem for the shaky camera.

 

As for the real Witcher 2 panel options, here you go, sorry i used to run the tweaker to get rid of sharpness.

 

http://i65.tinypic.com/jsk951.png

 

I might try Sleeping Dogs later just to see how bad it can be, really weird thought, even now when i watch youtube videos in 1080p, when in motion, it looks like 480p. I hope it's not coming from my card, thought i would have had BSODs or such, and games runs normally smooth, despite that rendering issue.

 

I think it is, as others have claimed, possibly a LOD bias related issue, where LOD bias/distance settings are simply broken/do not work anymore. But why or how it could be broken for some people and not others, I do not understand... 

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Well I sure have no idea how this problem came out of nowhere too. I actually had a BSOD installing 361.43 drivers, because it was not compatible with my mobile GPU, with 361.60 hotfix no more of it. But i actually noticed that issue before anyway.

 

As for your video, weird as it will sound, i see jaggies, and clearly LOD changing too. Now to know why.. will try to play a game or two on my bro computer, and watch videos see if the problem the same, he have a bad GFX (GTX 745), but it should be enough to check.

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Well I sure have no idea how this problem came out of nowhere too. I actually had a BSOD installing 361.43 drivers, because it was not compatible with my mobile GPU, with 361.60 hotfix no more of it. But i actually noticed that issue before anyway.

 

As for your video, weird as it will sound, i see jaggies, and clearly LOD changing too. Now to know why.. will try to play a game or two on my bro computer, and watch videos see if the problem the same, he have a bad GFX (GTX 745), but it should be enough to check.

 

I see jaggies too, but that's because there's a lot of detail in the distance and I'm not running the highest level of AA the game can use (which would be DS9X). I'm now running it at DS6X which does look a bit better (reduced jaggies). Uploading another PCars video right now. Will share once it's ready. 

 

As for the LOD distance issue, the game has been like that since I installed it and ran it many months ago and was running a single R9 290 as well as crossfire 290's. Now I'm running a single 980 and it still looks the same. So this is definitely not GPU brand-related. 

 

IMO, the game still looks great to me. It runs smooth and consistent. When I'm racing, I'm honestly not looking anywhere else, but the horizon on the straights and to the apex in the corners. It takes a lot of concentration to be fast and consistent so my mind is not on paying attention to the graphics, tbh. ;) But again, it still looks fine to me, even watching the playback. I know SMS just released patch 8.0 for PCars which included some graphics fixes in terms of shadows and AA settings. So when I post up the new video later today (recorded last night) we can compare and see if it looks any better. 

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Haha wow all of a sudden my image quality degraded again. Now LOD bias even through nvidia inspector doesn't work at all, all shadows in all games shimmer 3x as much and 8x MSAA/SSAA + DSR makes my games look what 2xmsaa would typically look like.

 

now the process seems to be complete, new games officially look worse than atari games

 

it was NEVER this horrendous on my amd cards. Nvidia, never again for me.

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Recorded last night. Same settings as I mentioned before only now with DS6X AA instead of DS4X. 

 

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MEC-777, such dedication, such willpower... damn. Are you on nVIDIA's pay list ? :)

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Recorded last night. Same settings as I mentioned before only now with DS6X AA instead of DS4X.

DS6X is the best AA for pCars@1080p imo.

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Just a list of things that we know/don't know so far:

1. It cannot be electricity based on the fact that we went as far as to try using a UPS, which should basically make it as clean as possible for a first world country.

2. It has nothing to do with CPU, whether you use amd or intel.

3. It has nothing to do with GPU brand, although there is the strange "higher quality" thing for the first two weeks I spoke about. Turns out it's the same case on intel HD chips aswell. The only brand that doesn't have this is AMD, which looks bad straight off the bat. Which makes me wonder if I should've questioned AMD more than Nvdia in the first case.

4. It has nothing to do with PSU

5. It has nothing to do with what HDD/SSD you're using

This really leaves only few possibilities:

1. It's a motherboard issue, which seems unlikely to me nevertheless

2. It's entirely an OS/Software issue

I'm not even going to go into the "is it real or not" discussion, I've seen the graphics go from good to bad on the same games I've been playing for years. It's not something you "can't unsee once you see" either, because when I bought a new nvidia card everything looked beautiful again for the first two weeks, until it went back to being bad. This issue is real and I still haven't figured out why it happens. All that I know is that, for me, the graphics downgrade always start after a "system_service_exception" bluescreen. I have tried reinstalling windows without any success on reverting the graphics quality back to normal, so god knows in what way that one specific bluescreens messes everything up.

This is the most I can contribute for now.

Funny u should mention the blue screen thing

As my system has been running rock solid with my oc, paste aida 64,prime95 and xtu stress all 24 hours each,

But my PC randomly blue screened once and never again and after that I found my self questioning the graphical fidelity of my games afterwards

Is this what's happened to everyone else ?

Edit. Also my blue screen was on the desktop at idle

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MEC-777, such dedication, such willpower... damn. Are you on nVIDIA's pay list ? :)

Lol, not at all. I play these games all the time and since shadowplay is so easy to use, might as well record and share as evidence.

I'm not necessarily trying to prove either way. I think games look fine on my pc and that what I'm seeing is normal. If others want to compare to this footage, well, there it is. ;)

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DS6X is the best AA for pCars@1080p imo.

Yeah, if I try DS9X it takes too much of a hit and doesn't really look much better.

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posting my video,

 

Need to know what resolution and settings you're using in these games. All settings if possible. 

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DS6X is the best AA for pCars@1080p imo.

 

Yeah, if I try DS9X it takes too much of a hit and doesn't really look much better.

 

DS is downsampling, right? How does it compare to Nvidia DSR in the control panel? Is there a difference?

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