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Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 v i5-4690K w/ weird pricing considerations

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Posted · Original PosterOP

On a tight budget, I can get for nearly the same price:

CONFIG A ($350 CAD):

  • Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3

or

 

CONFIG B ($330 CAD):

  •  i5-4690K ($280 CAD)
  •  Raijintek Tisis CPU Cooler ($50 CAD)

Now these two configurations would cost me nearly the same thing. Which should I go for, considering that this is primarily for a gaming rig?

 

On the face of it, it sort of seems like the Xeon is a no-brainer, but even though games are better utilising more cores, I don't think 4+ is very useful, and the i5 will have better core speeds OC'd, so that might also be the route to go.

 

Also, is should I work on another cooler? It's heavily discounted, and I've heard it compared to the Noctua D12, but I'm not sure whether to believe that stuff.

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well the xeon will perform worse in games that only use <=4 cores, but a lot of games these days especially more demanding ones are using up to 8

 

so i would get the xeon, cause its nice to be able to do other stuff while gaming like watching youtube videos or whatever with no performance impact

 

but before you buy them new check to see if anyone is selling used in your area, you can probably get a hundred dollars off if you buy used


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On a tight budget, I can get for nearly the same price:

CONFIG A ($350 CAD):

  • Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3

or

 

CONFIG B ($330 CAD):

  •  i5-4690K ($280 CAD)
  •  Raijintek Tisis CPU Cooler ($50 CAD)

Now these two configurations would cost me nearly the same thing. Which should I go for, considering that this is primarily for a gaming rig?

 

On the face of it, it sort of seems like the Xeon is a no-brainer, but even though games are better utilising more cores, I don't think 4+ is very useful, and the i5 will have better core speeds OC'd, so that might also be the route to go.

 

Also, is should I work on another cooler? It's heavily discounted, and I've heard it compared to the Noctua D12, but I'm not sure whether to believe that stuff.

Go for the Xeon, it'll help in mutli-treaded applications. 


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well the xeon will perform worse in games that only use <=4 cores, but a lot of games these days especially more demanding ones are using up to 8

 

so i would get the xeon, cause its nice to be able to do other stuff while gaming like watching youtube videos or whatever with no performance impact

 

but before you buy them new check to see if anyone is selling used in your area, you can probably get a hundred dollars off if you buy used

How would the Xeon perform worse?, it's equal to an i7.... Just without an iGPU.


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While the 4690K is technically better for games, due to its better individual core performance, the difference in FPS is either going to be nothing or very small, depending on the game. 

 

I'd go for the 1231v3, it's a much better all round performer and is basically a 4790, though a little slower. It will beat the i5 in multi-threaded applications and multi-tasking. 

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well the xeon will perform worse in games that only use <=4 cores, but a lot of games these days especially more demanding ones are using up to 8

 

so i would get the xeon, cause its nice to be able to do other stuff while gaming like watching youtube videos or whatever with no performance impact

 

but before you buy them new check to see if anyone is selling used in your area, you can probably get a hundred dollars off if you buy used

What Games have you seen even come close to using 8, let alone 6 cores fully ?

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but before you buy them new check to see if anyone is selling used in your are you can probably get a hundred dollars off if you buy used

 

I'd be very down to buy used (particularly for a locked card like the Xeon), but my local market is dry as can be... trying to find some stuff on /r/hardwareswap, but that's not proving great either atm (atleast not for Xeons)

 

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I'd be very down to buy used (particularly for an unlocked card like the Xeon), but my local market is dry as can be... trying to find some stuff on /r/hardwareswap, but that's not proving great either atm (atleast not for Xeons)

 

yeah i see a lot more i5s and i7 being sold used than xeon 1231v3s

maybe you will come accross an i7 for the price of the i5/xeon

just look for a while, if you find nothing then get the xeon if you plan to play intensive triple a games :)


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If it's mainly for gaming the higher frequency of the i5 will allow you to get better performance in most games. However, some games like gta v will actually leverage the extra threads and make the xeon perform better. In general the difference is not huge, so personally I'd go for the xeon.

 

How would the Xeon perform worse?, it's equal to an i7.... Just without an iGPU.

 

a locked, underclocked i7.


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What Games have you seen even come close to using 8, let alone 6 cores fully ?

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/236946-who-said-games-used-only-a-couple-threads/


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How would the Xeon perform worse?, it's equal to an i7.... Just without an iGPU.

it's not an i7

 

it has much lower clock speeds, nearly 3/4

it is also locked, so the i7 can perform even better when OCd


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It has slightly slower clock speeds, so less performance from each core. It's not quite equal to a 4790, but not far off. 

200mhz difference. Also the Xeon can be slightly OC using BLCK. 


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200mhz difference. Also the Xeon can be slightly OC using BLCK. 

Hence why I said that it's not far off. True, but so can the 4790. And for a tiny bit more, the 4790K can be overclocked properly. 

 

The performance difference is negligible for games, really. 

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Wow, very cool post... definetly shows that 4+ multithreading is a trend that has been around for longer than I would have thought. Great!

 

I'm going to bide my time to see if I can get something on the cheap used or on BF/CM, but I'm leaning towards the Xeon unless I get a killer deal on an 4690K. The main probelm with the K-series is that cooling does add cost to the card value.

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200mhz difference. Also the Xeon can be slightly OC using BLCK. 

Hence why I said that it's not far off. True, but so can the 4790. And for a tiny bit more, the 4790K can be overclocked properly. 

 

The performance difference is negligible for games, really. 

Using MCE you can get the 1231 v3 running @ 3.8 on all cores.

That would make it about 100Mhz less than a 4770 @ Turbo (3.9) (which honestly isn't bad considering the price compared for those extra threads)


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