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France Has A New Controversial Surveillance Law

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As it plans its response to a series of six terrorist attacks Friday night that killed 129 and injured 352, the government of France will likely step up its efforts to keep tabs on the movements and communications of people within its borders.

 
As it happens, the attacks have occurred only a few months after legislators in that country passed a sweeping new surveillance law that gives the government broad powers to closely monitor the mobile phone and Internet communications of French citizens.
 
Passed by the French Parliament in May in response to the attacks on the Paris-based magazine Charlie Hebdo, the law allows government to monitor phone calls and emails of people suspected of connections to terrorism without the authorization of a judge.
 
But it goes further than that. The law requires Internet service providers to install “black boxes” that are designed to vacuum up and analyze metadata on the Web-browsing and general Internet use habits of millions of people using the Web, and to make the data available to intelligence agencies.
 
In exceptional cases, the law allows the government to deploy what are called “ISMI catchers” to track all mobile phone communications in a given area. These catchers are basically designed to impersonate cell towers, but they intercept and record communications data from phones within its range, and can also track the movements of people carrying the phones.
 
Finally, the law allows government agents to break into the homes of suspected terrorists for the purpose of planting microphone bugs, surveillance cameras, and to install keyloggers on their computers, devices that capture data on every keystroke and mouse click.
 
Critics of the law complain that there’s not much oversight and that the conditions under which the laws powers can be triggered are vague. As The Verge noted in July, the government can authorize the surveillance for “major foreign policy interests” or to counter “organized delinquency.”
 
Surveillance operations are overseen by a nine-person committee led by Prime Minister Manuel Valls. But that committee has only an advisory role, and cannot overrule decisions by the prime minister.

 

Source: http://recode.net/2015/11/14/france-has-a-powerful-and-controversial-new-surveillance-law/

 

This honestly sounds like a bad plan to me. I know they just came from a tragedy, but breaking the barrier of privacy isn't the best solution to me.

I'm hoping that they only keep the law when they're on high alert, but I feel like the power will be abused by someone by the time it's up and running.

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

/s.....I think

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Better to live then be killed by islamic terrorists. I would prefer losing some privacy as I have nothing to hide.

The biggest looser would be those islamic terrorists. True it can be misused. But, lets just kick there as*. That's only what matters right now.

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Great. Now everyone will have an excuse to invade our privacy... And people will thank them, because it keeps them "safe". Fucking bullshit man.

 

Edit: The person above me is a fine example btw...

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We will eventually be at peace when everybody (except the goverment) is probed up to thier arse. Sounds like a good future. 

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

They are hiding with civilians and it looks bad when you wipe out 10 bad guys and 200 civs 

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Now where did I put my pitchfork and torch...

 

We all saw this coming after the attack...

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Better to live then be killed by islamic terrorists. I would prefer losing some privacy as I have nothing to hide.

The biggest looser would be those islamic terrorists. True it can be misused. But, lets just kick there as*. That's only what matters right now.

 

No, it isn't better at all

 

I'm sure that the government has so many other ways to stop them, and if they don't then we may not have any hope

 

Saying that you have nothing to hide is an utter lie; if it isn't I would kindly ask you to give me all your private information including credit card numbers and all your passwords

...oh wait that's an invasion of privacy (I guess we do have some things to hide)

 

Plus saying it will be a fine way to kick a** is a really poor argument when we're talking about misuse of information

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

Killing millions on innocent civilians because they lived in the area where a terrorist group might or might not be there is a humane thing to do. Why not nuke the whole earth that will mean global peace.

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

We can't use atomic weapons. We signed a treaty not to. Also, if we did, I'm sure we'd fuck up the world. Fallout 4 gonna happen.

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this is not the solution to the problem. Maybe start with replacing Merkel and doing proper border checks so that not every piece of shit can enter.

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Laws like this literally do nothing at all: just yesterday a post was made explaining how they communicate using PS4, which is not nearly as traceable as phones or pc's and certainly less susceptible to current surveillance.

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Better to live then be killed by islamic terrorists. I would prefer losing some privacy as I have nothing to hide.

The biggest looser would be those islamic terrorists. True it can be misused. But, lets just kick there as*. That's only what matters right now.

1:28 to 5:52, but be sure to watch the rest too.

As for "better to live than be killed by islamic terrorists", Every year more people drown in their bathtub than die as a result of terror attacks. Perhaps they should install cameras in your bathroom too? After all it's better to live than to drown, right?

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Better to live then be killed by islamic terrorists. I would prefer losing some privacy as I have nothing to hide.

The biggest looser would be those islamic terrorists. True it can be misused. But, lets just kick there as*. That's only what matters right now.

I'd rather live free and die than to live in a state of no privacy.

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As for "better to live than be killed by islamic terrorists", Every year more people drown in their bathtub than die as a result of terror attacks. Perhaps they should install cameras in your bathroom too? After all it's better to live than to drown, right?

 

Getting blowed up by a brown person is way scarier than dying through your own stupidity or helplessness, though.

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

 

Last thing we want is Nuclear war.

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Last thing we want is Nuclear war.

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Instead of spying on everyone trying to find them why not wipe out the people influencing them? I mean we have neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.

The problem is that we can't bomb the whole world, while bombing core countries will slow them down it will not stop undercover terrorist ready to kill innocent people.

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As for "better to live than be killed by islamic terrorists", Every year more people drown in their bathtub than die as a result of terror attacks. Perhaps they should install cameras in your bathroom too? After all it's better to live than to drown, right?

 

Ok, you go and tell that to the families of the 130+ people who died Friday night, I am happy to give up a little of my privacy if it stop shit like this happening again....

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Ok, you go and tell that to the families of the 130+ people who died Friday night, I am happy to give up a little of my privacy if it stop shit like this happening again....

 

Sure, let me at 'em. Thing is, we haven't seen evidence that this increased survaillance does anything useful.

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Sure, let me at 'em. Thing is, we haven't seen evidence that this increased survaillance does anything useful.

You won't see the evidence, the secret service who does this surveillance keeps it secret for a reason, For every attack on Paris i suspect the likes of MI6 have prevented 20 others, because they are allowed to "snoop" on potential threats to national security.

 

Granted if these powers are in place and abused once/if the terrorist threat is defeated, then we have something to worry about.  

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