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Microsoft Says If You are Going to Buy a Console for Games, You Will Buy an Xbox One

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so, let me get this right dab.

you despise the PS4 and fagbox because, and just because, you need to install games.

well, i got shocking news for you mate. you had to do that for the PS3 too, the game installs were just smaller.

Now, are Sony and MS to blame for game installs?

NO

that are entirely, 100%, the game devs fault.

They could have packaged things better, they could prolly kept quite A LOT of data on their servers rather then locally.

And just like you say, install time on a next gen console takes about as long as a PC. it really does. yes my i7 is quicker, but really.... my i7 costs almost as much as the console, so if it wasnt quicker i'd be bloody pissed.

Honestly, if you gonna rage about game installs, go do that on the forums of the game devs. THEY are the ones to blame.

If you wanted to install 60GB at blazing speeds then a console would need a 4GHz+ 5960x + two Samsung 950Pro 512GB NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 to get it done fast. EVEN THEN, you would still be waiting a little.

honestly. Your argument about a game install is bullshit. It really is.

each year we bitch about wanting more graphics, longer lasting games, better voice acting and more advanced AI and deeper story telling. Ontop of this we want LESS LATENCY AND LESS LAGS

the only way to have all this is to install the bulk of it locally. There is NO WAY to get around this.

Adding to this the low cost of large amounts of storage (45-50 bucks for 1TB 7200RPM drive.. yeah, that is CHEAP), then the devs have little incentive to keep game sizes small.

As for just poppin in the disk... yeah, the PS2 did that...

The PS3, and 360 too if i remember correctly, almost always had 2-3GB files to install... and they were soooooo fucking slow at it. Especially their networking was bad (i had PS3, my friend had 360.. we both had 25MBs down, 10MBs up wired connections at the time) and slow..

you glorify the PS3 and 360 WAAAAAAAAAAY too much. They werent nearly as good as you want them to be.

Fun fact, my PS4 installs a 20GB game in the time my PS3 does a 8GB one.. what does that tell you huh?

EDIT:

Jaguar is based on K10, aka Phenom II. Not Bulldozer.

the 8 cores inside a PS4/fagbox is litterally 2x Athlon 5350 which is a real 4 physical cores 4 threads CPU

I despise them because they are more inconvenient than previous generations and they suck.

And its still bloody weak. And think for a second how many games the Xbone and Pisspoor can actually fit.

 

and PC parts were, in relation, way way way more expensive...

but that was because Sony and MS lost money selling you the PS3/fagbox 360.... they sold you a 650 USD machine for 399 or 499. Dun remember correct retail price at that time.

What you paid for and got though actually made them good machines.


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I despise them because they are more inconvenient than previous generations and they suck.

And its still bloody weak. And think for a second how many games the Xbone and Pisspoor can actually fit.

 

What you paid for and got though actually made them good machines.

Inconvenient. perhaps.

also remember that the PS3 and fagbox 360 came with 320GB disk as standard and 500GB as "extra large". On the flip side, the PS4 and fagbox is sold with 500GB and 1TB versions. The fagbox can use external drives, while the PS4 can freely change the internal drive.

While laptop drives are NOT cheap, especially the larger ones. If you want a damn big drive, there is nothing stopping you from slapping a 2-3TB drive in the PS4...

or if you REALLY need better install speed. get a 1TB SSD (yeah lol, costs as much as a console)..

honestly, i despise the installing too. BUT, that is the price WE ALL PAY for better graphics, larger maps, more stuff etc...

There is NOTHING that is convenient anymore. Steam requires download + install. same with GoG... Nvidia Grid/NOW, while a great idea is shit because you need a shield device to use it, in addition to a subscription and sometimes being forced to pay for your games ontop of this subscription.

If you want convenience in gaming. stick with the PS2... no other console is TRULY convenient.

But the price you pay is worse graphics, worse physics, 30FPS max no matter what.

As for the PS3 and fagbox 360 giving more value...

do you remember when the PS3 came out?

oh yeah, around 2008 wasnt it?

what else happened in 2008?

Oh yeah, global economy took a shit.

Do you really think MS and Sony didnt feel that crisis? Consoles being sold at a loss. less initial buyers, less games sold initially...

They all got budgets, i bet quite a few of those budgets got blown or atleast didnt make the expected profit.

You cannot sell things at a loss and fuck up time and time again. If you do, you end up like AMD. in which case we are all fucked. As then the "next gen" console would be based on a undervolted and underclocked FX4100...

Companies are there to make money. Not give you free shit. Because they did it once does not, in any way, give you the right to see such an mistake done again.

It is a priviledge to buy a product, not a right.

Yet it is also a priviledge to sell a product, not a right.

we can go full circle time and time again, bottom line is.

You, as the consumer, has only one decision to make.

that is to ask yourself the question: "Is the product i get worth the cost"

if the answer is yes, you buy it. If it is no, you dont buy it.

being salty because you probably want to buy one, but wont because it isnt as good as you want it to be is simply asinine.

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Inconvenient. perhaps.

also remember that the PS3 and fagbox 360 came with 320GB disk as standard and 500GB as "extra large". On the flip side, the PS4 and fagbox is sold with 500GB and 1TB versions. The fagbox can use external drives, while the PS4 can freely change the internal drive.

While laptop drives are NOT cheap, especially the larger ones. If you want a damn big drive, there is nothing stopping you from slapping a 2-3TB drive in the PS4...

or if you REALLY need better install speed. get a 1TB SSD (yeah lol, costs as much as a console)..

honestly, i despise the installing too. BUT, that is the price WE ALL PAY for better graphics, larger maps, more stuff etc...

There is NOTHING that is convenient anymore. Steam requires download + install. same with GoG... Nvidia Grid/NOW, while a great idea is shit because you need a shield device to use it, in addition to a subscription and sometimes being forced to pay for your games ontop of this subscription.

If you want convenience in gaming. stick with the PS2... no other console is TRULY convenient.

But the price you pay is worse graphics, worse physics, 30FPS max no matter what.

As for the PS3 and fagbox 360 giving more value...

do you remember when the PS3 came out?

oh yeah, around 2008 wasnt it?

what else happened in 2008?

Oh yeah, global economy took a shit.

Do you really think MS and Sony didnt feel that crisis? Consoles being sold at a loss. less initial buyers, less games sold initially...

They all got budgets, i bet quite a few of those budgets got blown or atleast didnt make the expected profit.

You cannot sell things at a loss and fuck up time and time again. If you do, you end up like AMD. in which case we are all fucked. As then the "next gen" console would be based on a undervolted and underclocked FX4100...

Companies are there to make money. Not give you free shit. Because they did it once does not, in any way, give you the right to see such an mistake done again.

It is a priviledge to buy a product, not a right.

Yet it is also a priviledge to sell a product, not a right.

we can go full circle time and time again, bottom line is.

You, as the consumer, has only one decision to make.

that is to ask yourself the question: "Is the product i get worth the cost"

if the answer is yes, you buy it. If it is no, you dont buy it.

being salty because you probably want to buy one, but wont because it isnt as good as you want it to be is simply asinine.

No. I buy a console when it provides a better experience in all areas than my PC. And since I've got a 4790K, GTX 970 and a controller for my rig, no console will ever be purchased by me again.


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No. I buy a console when it provides a better experience in all areas than my PC. And since I've got a 4790K, GTX 970 and a controller for my rig, no console will ever be purchased by me again.

so instead you are salty because you gotta put up with shitty ports that run terrible despite great hardware, cannot play A LOT of cool exclusives (really though, there is A LOT of exclusives that would be better on PC. also, the other way too)

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so instead you are salty because you gotta put up with shitty ports that run terrible despite great hardware, cannot play A LOT of cool exclusives (really though, there is A LOT of exclusives that would be better on PC. also, the other way too)

I don't bother with the shitty ports-I let the idiots who buy them first test them and if the craps never fixed then I don't lose money. And those exclusives don't make a console good. Oh and consoles never make anything better at all.


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So they talk about all this exclusives, then go on to mention Halo 5.....and.....[404 not found]

honestly though... when it comes to exclusives, MS and Sony need to get real..

what is an exclusive?

something you cannot get elsewere...

lately, both MS and Sony has been calling shit exclusive when what they really mean is early access...

GT is exclusive,

Forza is exclusive,

Uncharted is exclusive,

FF was exclusive (now its been tainted by PC... it will never be the same again... it will NEVER again be about pushing the console hardware to the fucking limit... cuz if they did, they would prolly make it hard to run on PC)

TEKKEN is exclusive

Soul Calibur is exclusive....

getting CoD or BF4 2 weeks ahead alongside a special camo or gun that WILL be unlocked on PC eventually is NOT exclusive...

that and the word innovation...

neither console maker should dare use that...

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honestly though... when it comes to exclusives, MS and Sony need to get real..

what is an exclusive?

something you cannot get elsewere...

lately, both MS and Sony has been calling shit exclusive when what they really mean is early access...

GT is exclusive,

Forza is exclusive,

Uncharted is exclusive,

FF was exclusive (now its been tainted by PC... it will never be the same again... it will NEVER again be about pushing the console hardware to the fucking limit... cuz if they did, they would prolly make it hard to run on PC)

TEKKEN is exclusive

Soul Calibur is exclusive....

getting CoD or BF4 2 weeks ahead alongside a special camo or gun that WILL be unlocked on PC eventually is NOT exclusive...

that and the word innovation...

neither console maker should dare use that...

Forza is coming to PC iirc, and lol at pushing console hardware to it's limit and thinking that means it would make games unplayable on a pc.

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Do you know how older consoles sold themselves? By playing games better than a PC that cost significantly more-you had to spend a shitload of money to get a better PC. They actually sold based on their own merits, not exclusive games.

 

Are you joking? Back in those days, "cross-platform" was almost unheard of. If you wanted to play Sega games you had to have a Genesis. If you wanted to play Mario/Zelda/Star Fox you had an SNES. And, hell, PC had all its own games as well. Exclusivity was not only the rule, it was so standard no one was even imagining a world yet where you could play the same game no matter what platform you owned. Really, it's only been since the Xbox/PS2 that we've even had that option for a large number of titles.

 

Exclusive games have actually become quite rare, but it's still vital to have them to give the customer some reason to choose an Xbone over a PS4 or vice versa. Otherwise they're just two grey boxes that play the same games.

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Forza is coming to PC iirc, and lol at pushing console hardware to it's limit and thinking that means it would make games unplayable on a pc.

excessive optimization for consoles will cause ports to be shittier.... when you spin the fabric so perfectly tight that it fits the consoles hardware without a single thread being loose. Then trying to unwind that fabric and widen it so it can run off any PC parts combination usually spells disaster

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*bows down to PC*

 

*hugs PS4*

 

*thumbs up to the Wii U*

 

Sorry Microsoft... you already have my money from the OS I bought from you.  That's enough gaming to go around for me.  I don't really care much for your exclusives, unfortunately.

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excessive optimization for consoles will cause ports to be shittier.... when you spin the fabric so perfectly tight that it fits the consoles hardware without a single thread being loose. Then trying to unwind that fabric and widen it so it can run off any PC parts combination usually spells disaster

that's not how it works, and that's not the reason some pc ports (like the most recent batman) are terrible. they are terrible because publisher don't allow the third rate contractors they get to do the port enough time for even a good team to port it. Also not to mention Dark Souls 2 would have been one of those "really well optimized" console games ported to pc and it's port is nearly flawless.

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After using a PS4 and Xbone I truly am amazed. How can people stand that garbage! The loads times are so bad and not to mention the 30FPS with dips in 20s is the worst thing I have ever witnessed. My god people get a computer

can you put a SSD in a console? (with gains, if it doesnt work faster then a HDD, it wont matter)

 

 

 

 

sorry but they still wouldnt. most people have limted knowledge of how a pc works and they aint about to go risking the family computer just so the brat can game, not when they can just get a console.  the thing i think you really dont get is the pulling power of a child. if all there friends are on xbox then they want an xbox too, there is no point buying a pc if they cant play with there mates.

 

I'm pretty sure that most families have family friends or members who know how to install a gpu...

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can you put a SSD in a console? (with gains, if it doesnt work faster then a HDD, it wont matter)

 

 

 

 

sorry but they still wouldnt. most people have limted knowledge of how a pc works and they aint about to go risking the family computer just so the brat can game, not when they can just get a console.  the thing i think you really dont get is the pulling power of a child. if all there friends are on xbox then they want an xbox too, there is no point buying a pc if they cant play with there mates.

 

I'm pretty sure that most families have family friends or members who know how to install a gpu...

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Installing a game on a console takes forever-the same as a Pc. Patching a game takes forever on a console-just like a PC. If people want a try console which they can easily play with their friends without any PC inconveniences then the Xbox 360, PS3 and one of Nintendo's consoles are the way to go. The Xbone and Pisspoor are just flat out bad.

 

Oh and the Xbone and Pisspoor are as affordable as a better PC, unlike earlier generations which were either on par with mid to high end gaming rigs, or exceeded aforementioned mid to high end gaming rigs, and all at a fraction of the cost.

 

Yeah, that's true... Hence why I had to add in getting a drink while you wait for it to install.

 

You're right, they're not as good as a PC for the same price but that wasn't the point. At $399 it's affordable and doesn't have any of the hassle owning a PC comes with. Which for a gamer who wants to game and isn't technically minded, this is a great value proposition. 


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i mean, want some real bullshit in terms of PCs?

why cant i run a fucking bog standard blu-ray movie on a PC without either paying for a program that doesnt work At ALL (powerdvd) or pay EVEN MORE for a program that works. I had this discussion with someone before, now PowerDVD is shit, it doesnt work. But he knew a program that worked, it costs only 99 bucks... so... 30 bucks for a decent Blu-ray reader and 100 bucks for software that is up to date with the latest DRM for god knows how long...

Why can these motherfucking DRM codes just be PART of some player. I dont care if MS struck a deal and got exclusive rights to use these DRM codes with win media player. Even though i hate win media player, it is tolerable.

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yes you could.

Multiplayer on PSN or fagbox live is the same thing. The games does not differ in mechanics. PS only gets a few advantages in resolution and graphical fidelity.

Both systems are just as fast with Wifi and wired, so it doesnt really matter which one you play on. Especially now that both uses about the same hardware. No single player base is more or less competitive.

Also, if you want competition... heard of GT Academy? Its part of Gran Turismo... its a tournament, the 10-20 best players are invited to take part of a training course to become a REAL racing driver... yeah, that is competition. But that is still only ONE actual competition...

CS:GO is competition

LoL is competition

DotA2 is competition.

GW2 is competition (there is decent cash prizes, even though the playerbase largely thinks the PvP tourneys are fail)

fragging eachother senseless in Halo for digital tags or small sums of money is not really "competition". Its fun and all, but still as casual as you get it.

the fagbox has events, like most platforms. But never have i heard or seen any huge epic tourneys or events being fronted.

inb4 "what about CoD?!"

CoD is a place for 12-14 YO to sprint around trying to show off their t-bagging skills. The game is extremely unrealistic. Perhaps even worse then CS:GO, no wait definetively worse, and does not represent any real competition purely based on how badly the game is set up in favor of time investment vs reward.

There are NO REAL COMPETITION ON EITHER CONSOLE. EVER!

THERE WONT BE REAL COMPETITION ON ANY CONSOLE. EVER!

but what about fighting games??!?!?!

fighting games, or rather arcade fighting games like King of Fighters, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Streetfighter etc were born and conceived either in theory, or in practice. Before even consumer PCs was a big thing... Consoles werent even a twinkle in the eyes of Sony, Nintendo or Atari by then...

consoles are targeted at casuals and the mainstream market. Thus neither can or will be able to cater to the hardcore players.

Saying a console has real competition is simply bullshit. It wont. The machines and network systems themselves arent suited for it in terms of stability, FPS, team functionality or controllers

Your "argument" is completely retarded. I was simply comparing competition between XBOX and PSN. Then you mention GT Academy. Ok + 1 for PSN now at a record breaking -354 points up from last years -355. So one competitive thing for PSN, niice.

 

Also this is the best part, then you begin to start the "argument" off about competition, bringing up pretty much all PC games in a discussion of competition of Xbox vs PSN (lmao). Then you also begin to trash on the actual games (which makes no sense). Yes I agree COD is kinda shit but it's still competition, are you serious? 12-14 years old is public. People compete for millions of dollars & it has almost ALWAYS been a competition on XBOX. I could care less of your opinion about the game COD itself and whether you think it's competitive or not, because your opinion is irrelevant. The game is played by MILLIONS of people and for MILLIONS of dollars every year. If you are going to consider COD an non competitive game (lol) we should end the convo right here.

 

Also not sure why you're trashing on Halo either. It hasn't been big on MLG for many years, it's been mostly about COD so that's pretty irrelevant as well. 

 

Also then there's the part about all these PC games (in a Xbox vs PSN conversation) that you begin to list right before calling me a "casual" (lol^2) when you have no clue of my history on any video game. Out of those games (which I have all played) I mainly play CSGO & LoL, & in fact on LoL although I rarely play anymore I have been in the top 0.5 (or less) percent of all the millions that play that game on a regular basis, for three seasons in a row. Although Gears of War hasn't been big on MLG for many years either I am among the best on that game (in any installment) as well. I simply compete in that game because I have always liked the series. Although I don't play much video games anymore in general, my ex teamates I used to play scrims/tournaments/gamebattles with on that game are taking 1st place trophies online and at LAN. Your "argument" is starting to suck even more...

 

Can't really speak about fighting games because I have never been a part of that scene so can't really comment.

 

You then just begin to bash randomly on consoles which wasn't the conversation at all. The point was Xbox has ALWAYS HAD more competition (no matter your opinion on the games themselves) than PSN ever had. More games played on MLG & when competitive players have looked to pick up a console to compete (no matter your opinion on consoles) it has been Xbox. 

 

 

 

Nuff said.........


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Yea...but I still need two goddamn double AA batteries lad.

 

Incorrect, you can use a plug-and-play kit with it. 

 

Should it have been included in the price? Yes. 


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so, let me get this right dab.

you despise the PS4 and fagbox because, and just because, you need to install games.

 

 

Why would anyone want to be in an argument with a person who is this "intelligent".

 

Only people who are insecure about their sexuality, resorts to using that word. 


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Why would anyone want to be in an argument with a person who is this "intelligent".

I wasn't actually arguing with him, just stating the facts and barely skimming what was said. Consoles have their place-and the Pisspoor and Xbone don't fit that place as well as last gen consoles (though this generation is far from "next gen", the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube were truly next gen when they launched) while also being shit.


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Only when someone find out how to jail break it, so you can run full Windows 10 on it since it is practically PC hardware anyway, and would make a decent living room PC.

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I wasn't actually arguing with him, just stating the facts and barely skimming what was said. Consoles have their place-and the Pisspoor and Xbone don't fit that place as well as last gen consoles (though this generation is far from "next gen", the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube were truly next gen when they launched) while also being shit.

 

Please just stop with the pisspoor, xbone, fagbox bullshit!

 

Argue the damned merits and stop acting like children....

 

ffs. 

 

 

Only when someone find out how to jail break it, so you can run full Windows 10 on it since it is practically PC hardware anyway, and would make a decent living room PC.

 
No...makes no sense...especially with the current generation of consoles. You can buy cheaper hardware for the same price...:Why convert a console if you can buy the hardware yourself. 

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Please just stop with the pisspoor, xbone, fagbox bullshit!

 

Argue the damned merits and stop acting like children....

 

ffs. 

 

 
 
No...makes no sense...especially with the current generation of consoles. You can buy cheaper hardware for the same price...:Why convert a console if you can buy the hardware yourself. 

 

Note, I only talk like that about the Xbone and Pisspoor. All other consoles are just fine. Oh and the Xbone and Pisspoor have no merits over previous generations when you actually have a hard look at them. Considering with the newer hardware more limitations were introduced.

 

Consoles lost their good merits when they actually started costing the same or more than an equal PC. My $1800 rig from 2001 (after upgrades from its Riva TNT2 and Pentium III 667) played games far worse than the Original Xbox (which I bought for $450) at the same resolution.


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unlike pc... consoles have actually somewhat working versions of games.... u have to realize that consoles arent about fps but about the gameplay.... u can have a 10k pc all you want... but devs care more about consoles because they get more money out them.... thats a fact... and i doubt that  DX 12 and vulkan will change that.... look at blizzard releasing overwatch for consoles.... reason? ... money ofc... so there u go.... 


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Note, I only talk like that about the Xbone and Pisspoor. All other consoles are just fine. Oh and the Xbone and Pisspoor have no merits over previous generations when you actually have a hard look at them. Considering with the newer hardware more limitations were introduced.

 

Consoles lost their good merits when they actually started costing the same or more than an equal PC. My $1800 rig from 2001 (after upgrades from its Riva TNT2 and Pentium III 667) played games far worse than the Original Xbox (which I bought for $450) at the same resolution.

 

 

Still takes away any possible argument that you might have had....Its not cool, intelligent or makes you sound like it......Just say that you dislike the Xbox instead of some really stupid names...

 

Its the same with politics. "Libtards" "Teabaggers" etc etc etc

 

Takes away from any intelligent discussion being had. 


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I wish MS would just stick with PC for gaming or mage XB like Windows PC as console so it's same ecosystem


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